It is not clear, but from searching the web it seems that 2 planes were made, one crashed, is the location of the other plane known (maybe Miss Tulsa?)
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Yossi
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If this is the design by Colin Prior, then it flies very well. A mate is in the same club as him, and and still has the original prototype. It has even flown under electric power! Cant help with the cockpit instrumentation though, sorry.
I'm also starting to build this aircraft from Colin Prior/Traplet plans. Just in the process of cutting ribs and buying in wood. I would love to know how you got on with yours?
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Here is an image of the centre-wing ply ribs, tacked together for drilling lightening holes. The plan does not indicate any lightening areas so I think I'll have to use my imagination.
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Check out the Miles Hawk series for an instrument panel. One of the articles I read about Miles aircraft said they used the Hawk fuselage and wing (among other parts ) as a basis for many of their open cockpit (and some closed cockpit) planes. There is a good chance that the Hawk instrument panel was used. I am presently waiting for Miles Speed 6 plans I ordered to arrive.
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The quarter scale Speed 6 plan by Ken Burke published in Flying Scale Models Jan/Feb 1998 includes a drawing of the instruments. An article in the same mag shows Speed 6 updated instrument panel drawings.
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Lawrence [Larry] Brown of the Brown Mercury Aircraft Co. was also building a new and more powerful craft - the Brown B-2 - for Leon Atwood and Lee [Leland] Miles (for whom Lawrence Brown had constructed the Miles & Atwood Special in 1932). Anyway I found a photograph, (see link), of the instrument layout on a replica B-2 built by Bill Turner, some 37 years ago. The B-2 "Miss Los Angeles" is similar to the "Miles & Atwood Special" and since this model is going to be 'sport-scale' I might use the B-2's instrument layout failing any further info or research. http://www.larryshapiro.com/airplane.php?plane=192
Also thanks for chipping in with the 'Miles Hawk series' comments, these are lovely machines ( and British) but sadly bare no relationship to the 'Special' of U.S. origin. I really like Miles aircraft and have fancied building a Miles M.35 Libellula for ages. Have a look at this site for more miles aircraft; http://www.museumofberkshireaviation.co.uk/
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Good information, I didn't know that Mr. Brown designed the Miles Atwood. I can now see the similarity between my 33% Brown B-2, and the Miles Atwood. However, the Brown's fuselage was longer then it's wing span, the Miles Atwood was shorter, and used the smaller Menasco 4 cylinder engine. There were a few different versions of the Miles built between 1933 and 1937, Miss Tulsa was the 1935 version. The Brown B-2, Miss. Los Angeles was introduced in 1934.
Top Speed -
Miles Atwood - 233 mph Brown B-2 - 270 mph
Sorry, I just fly sport scale here, and made no effort to replicate the cockpit.
> Jim
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Thanks guys for the interest! I've made a little progress since my last post and I've also had some problems which have slowed the progress to a snails pace, though now solved should now pick-up. I saw recently a photograph of a Chester Jeep with the pilot alongside and that is frighteningly small unless of course the pilot was a giant. There are no indications of engine thust-line, angle of incidence, (wing), and angle of incidence, (tail-plane). I have a max weight of 12lb to aim for and this will give a wing loading of approx. 28oz/sq ft. Obviously I'm going to try and build this aircraft as light as possible as I've been bitten rather badly by a Spitfire with a wing loading of over 32oz/sq ft. The hardwood blocks for the undercarriage have been hollowed out somewhat and I've saved at least a third of their weight without reducing their strength by any important amount. I thought I could drill holes through the spar-webbing but not being experienced in 'scratch' building, even from a plan I reckoned that I needed to keep at least one part of the wing structure strong. As you can see the nose-block needs some finishing and I'll probably make the cooling holes a little larger before a final sand to shape and sealing. I've deviated from plan with the wing structure but it has more to so with existing materials than anything else. All the ribs are 1/8th balsa alternate hard and soft as again I was using up existing materials. the soft balsa is pretty crappy and easily dents if the wing is miss-handled in my small workshop. In future I'm going to choose my balsa a lot more carefully. I love the 'Miss Los Angeles', for my money it's what flying was all about, enthusiasm, passion and fearlessness, I'm also quite a fan of the GeeBee z series, there is something quite evocative of these pioneering designs, i think also that it's their accessibility. Being a bit of a dreamer and a non-smoker no doubt that with 40 years of non-smoking say 40-a-day at todays prices, (thats about $1 per cigarette in the UK), i might afford to build a full-size and fly it myself, though I'm not sure my wife would entirely agree. Anyway, here are some more images, cheers J;