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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 2/28/2012 1:10 AM   
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1ne8 - its going to be hard to diagnose this with a description.  It doesn't sound like what is happening is normal.   I would only be able to help you by interacting with the carburetor or at least seeing it although pictures would not be very descriptive from what it sounds like.

If the needle is hitting something it should be obvious whats in the way, have you taken the carb off or taken it apart more?  The needle can clearly be seen on the inside and you should be able to just see whats going on.


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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 2/28/2012 4:45 AM   
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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 2/28/2012 5:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've never run that engine and I don't know the carb.  I think my k4.6 had the needle head flush with the housing.  All of my nitro carbs low speed needles turned in 3-4 turns from flush and when it got tight you could feel is progressing easily and it was obvious when to stop.

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 2/28/2012 5:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well I seemed to have tracked down my needle problem. As per THIS TUTORIAL, I was supposed to hold the MSN in place as I adjust the LSN. I've only had a 2 needle carb before so I was just doing it the only way I knew how. It's set right, but I don't know if I damaged anything in the process. I'll have to either take the carb apart or see if it tunes once I get it started. Which brings me to a second question...

Is it a bad idea to use a cordless drill in place of a roto start? I need to get a charger for the battery for the roto start, but in the mean time at least would putting the wand in a cordless drill do the trick? Or would it be too powerful or something for the engine?

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 2/28/2012 8:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		cordless drill is fine. one thing that ive noticed is my drill dosnt turn the engine over very fast. i find it alot easier to use a roto start just cause it turns the engine over quick and starts a little easier for me.

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 2/28/2012 3:52 PM   
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You don't just have to come in here if you have problems, you are welcome to help others out as well.  If your truck is trouble free you likely can be


Well my truck is pretty much all stock except for the shocks and bullet proof diffs. So the Savage is still pretty new to me even though I have had it for a couple of years now I feel I'm not knowledge enough with this particular truck to really give good advice.

As far as engine tuning I'm pretty good but old school. I don't use a temp gun due to the fact that I got into the hobby way before temp guns or readers were used. I tune by sound, sight, and performance. Some of the newer guys like to poke fun and insist on using a temp gun so I have kind of backed away from giving tuning advise as well. Seems to me that tuning in this manner is a dying art. When someone asks what temperature should my engine be at and I can't answer they just stop listening.

Stadium Trucks is what I started with way back in 1994. RC10GT Tub Chassis. Had 2 of them. Then RC10GT Flat Chassis. Also had 2 of them. And now I have a Jato 3.3 since 2007. I can give advise all day on those without missing a beat. Once I gain some more knowledge with the Savage I will give my advise as well. I just don't know it like the back of my hand yet but I will.

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 2/28/2012 7:02 PM   
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If you know how your engine should run and sound you don't need one,

You get to know tuning by sight and sound after a while.

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 2/28/2012 8:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I completely agree.  Temperature is a good way to get started and it can be a good guide but after a while you can develop the ability to tell by ear.  Sometimes the engine can sit at 240 or so and still be rich and will run best at 280 and some days it runs best at 220 and can't go any leaner.

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 2/29/2012 2:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I love that bug body! I found a couple on ebay, but it looks like they come in long chassis and short chassis versions (details below). Which would I get to fit a Savage 21?

Long:
Length: 19.25" (489mm)
Height: 6.0" (152mm)
Width: 7.5" (191mm)
Wheel Base: 12.5" (318mm

Short:
Length: 17.63" (448mm)
Height: 5.75" (146mm)
Width: 7.0" (178mm))
Wheel Base: 11.38" (289mm)

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 2/29/2012 4:22 AM   
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That's your best bet, from what I have been told.

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 2/29/2012 7:57 AM   
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I love that bug body! I found a couple on ebay, but it looks like they come in long chassis and short chassis versions (details below). Which would I get to fit a Savage 21?

Long:
Length: 19.25'' (489mm)
Height: 6.0'' (152mm)
Width: 7.5'' (191mm)
Wheel Base: 12.5'' (318mm

Short:
Length: 17.63'' (448mm)
Height: 5.75'' (146mm)
Width: 7.0'' (178mm))
Wheel Base: 11.38'' (289mm)


I actually got the Pro-Line baja body for the Revo. It was a perfect fit.

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 2/29/2012 4:05 PM   
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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 3/1/2012 4:50 PM   
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Just to be sure, you have THIS ONE, right? What model Savage do you have?


Yup that's the one.

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 3/4/2012 12:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		So I have all the parts I need for my Savage and I finally got a chance to start it up yesterday. I found that the fuel tank pump doesn't work so I had to blow in the pressure line to get fuel to the carb then plug the pipe and run the roto to prime it (is this an okay method, and any easy way to fix the fuel pump issue? Besides buying an in-line primer bulb, which I might have to do). It started up after a minute or so of working at it so I took off the starter set it down for about 20 seconds of idling pretty consistently, then as soon as I tapped the gas it cut out. This happened a few times so I left it for the night and came back to it today.

It started up the same, but now when I take the starter off it dies after about 5 seconds, and it only goes for 30 or so seconds before it slowly dies with the starter still on. Is this a matter of it not being warmed up, or does it sound like something else? The needles are at factory settings.

I had some problems with the carb in getting the needles back to factory settings, does it sound like it could be damage to the carb/needles that's causing this?

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 3/4/2012 12:38 AM   
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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 3/4/2012 3:51 AM   
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So I have all the parts I need for my Savage and I finally got a chance to start it up yesterday. I found that the fuel tank pump doesn't work so I had to blow in the pressure line to get fuel to the carb then plug the pipe and run the roto to prime it (is this an okay method, and any easy way to fix the fuel pump issue? Besides buying an in-line primer bulb, which I might have to do). It started up after a minute or so of working at it so I took off the starter set it down for about 20 seconds of idling pretty consistently, then as soon as I tapped the gas it cut out. This happened a few times so I left it for the night and came back to it today.

It started up the same, but now when I take the starter off it dies after about 5 seconds, and it only goes for 30 or so seconds before it slowly dies with the starter still on. Is this a matter of it not being warmed up, or does it sound like something else? The needles are at factory settings.

I had some problems with the carb in getting the needles back to factory settings, does it sound like it could be damage to the carb/needles that's causing this?


If your Savage has the primer tank, then it's probably pushing a decade old. The primer tanks were done away with because the primers leaked and - you guessed it - tuning issues. Get the primerless style tank and you should be good to go.

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 3/4/2012 7:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I believe I found my problem: the threading for the glow plug has somehow almost fully stripped out of the engine case. Is there any way to get this re-threaded, or does it look like I'll be buying myself a new engine?

EDIT: after looking on tower, would it just be a matter of buying a new UNDERHEAD? I can't tell if that has the threaded part or not on it

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 3/4/2012 7:55 AM   
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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 3/4/2012 8:10 AM   
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yes thats what the glow plug threads into just make sure that its the right head for you engine


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If your Savage has the primer tank, then it's probably pushing a decade old. The primer tanks were done away with because the primers leaked and - you guessed it - tuning issues. Get the primerless style tank and you should be good to go.


Oh wow, thanks for the info. Do you know if a tank for the savage x would fit in the savage 21?


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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 3/5/2012 12:05 AM   
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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 3/6/2012 5:58 AM   
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Hey everyone. I don't pop in here much cuz my Savage is pretty much trouble free. I do need a little help deciding if I should paint my frame red or keep it stock. Here are a couple of pics let me know what you think. Thanks.



Did you cut any wholes in the body for air flow? And if so, where?

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 7/7/2012 3:43 AM   
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i bought my rtr savage x 4.6 last year. ran it a few times with little to no problems. broke a shock and it sat for a while (few months) due to just being super busy. finally got it back up and running again the other day and was running great. from what i could tell everything was tuned just fine. ( this is my first nitro truck) put it away for the night. the next day had problem with the throttle servo holding wide open as soon as i turned it on. figured out it was a problem with my stock remote. bought a new remote (spektrum dx3c) and replaced the old reciever with the new one that came with my new remote. took it out and ran it for about 5 mins before it stopped moving the wheels. turns out screws in motor came lose and it missaligned with spur gear, destryoing it. I replaced it, thread locked screws back in, and ran it again. now i cant seem to get it to consistantly change gears. this is my current problem i need help with. it will sometimes switch and other times it just revs really high in first without changing to second. i know there is a screw i can adjust to change shift points but im not sure this is the problem since it will still occassionlly shift. been cleaning,adjusting,and tuning it for 2 days now trying to get it running right with no luck. checked clutch shoes and they seem fine. dont really have much experience with them but i dont see any excessive wear on them so im assuming there ok. spur gear is still good and mesh seems just fine. any suggestions would be great. sorry for the long backstory but i figued if u had all the info it might help. also after checking the clutch shoes i cleaned out the clutch bell just to make sure there wasnt a grip problem there. still no luck. suggestions? thanks!

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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 7/7/2012 6:12 AM   
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RE: Anyone Own a Savage X? - 9/5/2012 5:56 AM   
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Going to break it in this weekend and can't wait to bash this beast. My XS looks so funny next to it..

 

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