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fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/18/2006 2:03:53 AM

txaggie08

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Im shure yall get tired of these so ill be brief

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Im going to build a boat to run bait out about 200yards off of a beach. Obviously the surf this boat is going to handle is going to be considerable. My thought was to build to sealed(and filled with expanding foam) pontoons out of pvc pipe, and strap them together with a trolling motor unit in the center with a rudder behind it.

A few questions. How big of a servo will it require to maneuver it? my thought was pretty minimal(plan to put a lead acid battery in one pontoon in abatt box and the electronics in the other side(or maybe mount them centraly to maintain integrity on the outer pontoons?), so whatkind of servo should i be looking at.

How would i go about keeping water from getting into the rudder servo? if i understand correctly i might could use a stuffing tube type rig and pass the control rod through it?

thats it for the moment. I may come back with some other design questions later. I have an old trolling motor unit, and the boat will be built tethered to the bank(little safety feature). Ive also got a hitec 2 channel radio. Im hoping to get it rolling for sub 150$.

Thanks for putting up wiht the questions

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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/18/2006 7:30:48 PM

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txaggie08,
Couple of questions first.
Are you planning on fishing alone? I think you'll need a little help getting it into/past the surf. Also a helper who can swim.

Have access to a large 'chunk' of foam? Reason I ask is that I've seen foam boats with a trolling motor and car battery. Letting the trolling motor hang down under the hull acts sort as a sailboats keel, not as 'tipsy'. No speed control, just an 'on/off', all the power or none sort of thingy. They also turn the trolling motor, no rudder. It wasn't R/C so would think adding a servo would mean a ~large~ servo, and if the battery is a 12 volt one, really hard to find (two 6 volt batteries in series would take care of that, tap power between the batteries).

Was going to ask if you had a pickup to haul the thing, but you're an'Aggie', so you'd have to have a pickup, right? ...
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Oops, almost forgot. COTTON BOWL!!

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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/18/2006 7:43:48 PM

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actuay the foam boat was the first thought. I was thinking pvc pontoon for wider and more stable, plus more durable...

no i generaly dont fish alone. There are to many dangers associted with hauling off in the surf by yourself, plus fishing alone is boring......

I thought about the trolling motor tunrning, but it would think that would require much more torque? im trying not to spend to much on a servo since this is going in saltwater.

Power for the servo's can be supplied from another battery pack if necessary. It can go in with the rest of the radio gear.

And yeah, definetly no esc. I was palnning on a switch and a 9gram servo ive got sitting here(basicaly the only think i need to buy if this works right, is the stuff for the pontoons and gear box, and a directional control(aka a rudder or moving the trolling motor)servo)

You wouldnt happen to be a fan of the sam team who lost in this last cotton bowl eh?

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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/18/2006 10:58:17 PM

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what should i seal the wood in? epoxy maybe? i dont want the thing rotting out , so what whould i seal the wooden parts with?

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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/19/2006 12:00:05 AM

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txaggie08,
You could seal the wood with almost anything that's water proof, sand-n-sealer, epoxy, paint, whatever. As for more stable, use wide block of foam

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Ahmmm... I live in the state that 'caps' Texas off. The Cotton bowl was always considered the years 'sympathy' game...

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[careful! I cry easily.]

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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/19/2006 12:01:12 AM

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LOL.

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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/19/2006 8:28:45 PM

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do yall think a hitec HS-6985HB would be sufficient to use as a steering servo?

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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/20/2006 12:44:14 PM

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hey, I'm another Aggie Fan and if y'all got any problems with the Aggies bring them up with me! ok? Reggie McNeal could beat Vince in a race, Reggie is the fastest player in the NCAA, he runs a 4.29 and he could also beat Vince in a throwing competition, its not Reggie's fault that his recievers can't catch! oh and another thing, the longhorns went undefeated right? I give them credit for that, but who scored the most number of points on texas? the Aggies, and who did texas score the least number of points on? the Aggies! so don't get me started on talking crap about the team with the best traditions in the World! The AGGIES!

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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/20/2006 2:35:45 PM

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Here is a servo gear box that might work . Ithas a bunch of tork .

This is the site . http://www.servocity.com

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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/20/2006 7:35:51 PM

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slow down GPD....i dont like the premodona(of course ive met him so....)

Dont forget most sacks on VY in any game, and almost the same number on the year

Ayway lets not turn this into an aggie/sipper fight.

Tell you what, if i get this working yall are all invited to come fishing

Holy god that gear box puts out 1715 oz of torque(107 pounds)!!!!!!!!! dear lord in heaven...You hit the nail on the head. If that doesnt move it im SOL....

I bet that would get it done....especialy since the servo it uses is a 40$ servo.

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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/20/2006 8:34:22 PM

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I bought the one that has 675 in. ozs for a project and it was way to much for what I needed . The only draw back of it is you have to disconnect the wires from the pot in the servo and resolder them to the pot on the gearbox . It is easy to do but will void the guarantee of the servo . It is a very nice unit . Very well built . You can use most any brand of servo but of course they recommend Hitec cause thats what they sell .

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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/20/2006 8:43:53 PM

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Just a thought...

If you removed the rotation limiter, used the 3" double ended arm with hooks on both ends. You could wring the water out of towels. Beach concession??
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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/22/2006 3:15:20 AM

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Hey txaggie08,

Have a look at the points, or headlands of the beach you are fishing at.

With a North East swell running at your beach, Casting out from either point, where would your bait end up, with no sinker, just bait ?

Choose the right swell direction, the right point to work from and the swell will place your bait in the natural flow, along the beach.

When you catch a fish, walk around the point to the beach, let the fish run if it wants to, while maintaining pressure on the fish.

The rest is just landing a fish and hopfully you will be catching lots more soon.

If you really want to use a boat.

Look at some surf and rescue boat hull shapes, they are usually cattamarans.
With a "deeeep" "V" on each side.

A boat the size you are talking about depends on the swell you have where you are. Are we talking 1" waves or 4" or more.

Regards Brettos.

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Im shure yall get tired of these so ill be brief .

Im going to build a boat to run bait out about 200yards off of a beach. Obviously the surf this boat is going to handle is going to be considerable. My thought was to build to sealed(and filled with expanding foam) pontoons out of pvc pipe, and strap them together with a trolling motor unit in the center with a rudder behind it.

A few questions. How big of a servo will it require to maneuver it? my thought was pretty minimal(plan to put a lead acid battery in one pontoon in abatt box and the electronics in the other side(or maybe mount them centraly to maintain integrity on the outer pontoons?), so whatkind of servo should i be looking at.

How would i go about keeping water from getting into the rudder servo? if i understand correctly i might could use a stuffing tube type rig and pass the control rod through it?

thats it for the moment. I may come back with some other design questions later. I have an old trolling motor unit, and the boat will be built tethered to the bank(little safety feature). Ive also got a hitec 2 channel radio. Im hoping to get it rolling for sub 150$.

Thanks for putting up wiht the questions

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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/22/2006 3:32:09 AM

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i fish the realtivly strait line texas beaches, and this will be going out aprox 200yards with a 1pound + bait. Im shark fishing mainly. The breakers im going to be playing with are 1-2feet, and i doubt any prebuilt hull with a normal electric motor will handle any of those. Iacutly found the exact thing im talking about building online earlier s i think it will work

actualy http://www.fishingkites.co.nz/electrickontiki/electric_kontiki-PT400.html is a pretty good idea of how i will set the motor configuration up. Mine will be a double hulled arrangment though for added flotation/stability.

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RE: fishing boat q's (yep another one :)) - 2/22/2006 11:01:05 PM

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