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Predator II ?? - 2/22/2006 6:55:36 PM   
garydog



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Status: offline 		Any word on when its available??? THnaks Dan
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RE: Predator II ?? - 2/23/2006 11:38:58 AM   
Lotus72D


 

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Status: offline 		Lanier scr*wed me on a defective Predator kit so bad I will never buy another of their products.

Luckily through this forum I found some excellent Q-500 kits! Currently flying a Bill Vargas Racer ll, and
I am building a Seeker right now. Great products at very fair prices. ARF's have their place, just saying
there are some very nice alternatives out there.

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RE: Predator II ?? - 2/27/2006 4:35:59 AM   
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RE: Predator II ?? - 3/6/2006 12:45:31 AM   
SRpropTwister


 

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Status: offline 		Sounds like I got a good taste of your same medicine. Maidened my Predator today and she wanted to climb to the moon. Everyone said the incidence was off making it climb. Sounds about right to me. Please share with me your experiences with your Lanier Predator.
Thanks,
Frank

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RE: Predator II ?? - 3/6/2006 12:49:06 AM   
SRpropTwister


 

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Status: offline 		In your opinion, what's the best Pylon racer for the price. Keep in mind, I'm a novice at Pylon.
Frank

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RE: Predator II ?? - 3/6/2006 5:07:43 PM   
Lotus72D


 

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Status: offline 		Frank,
My issue was simpler- the wing as received was severly twisted and warped. No way acceptable.
Had a difficult time getting Lanier to do anything, after shipping back the old wing (at my expense)
they sent out a new wing, of the wrong color several weeks later. Their reply to my asking why
send a different color was "that was what we have left, basically take it or leave it"

Since you already have one, learn from it. Use the search function-there are a ton of usable suggestions
on improving the Predator. Get it straight and the incidence correct it will fly ok. What engine are you using?

I have been in the hobby 30 years but just racing 2 years so there are many more folks who can comment
on what works best for what application. Are you going to race or just wanting a fast sport flyer?

I have built these:
Predator
Viper
Dominator
Racer II
and am working on a Seeker.
I like the Viper over the Predator, and the Racer II / Seeker will be an improvement over the others. Lighter and
a competitive airfoil.

Scott

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RE: Predator II ?? - 3/6/2006 5:19:31 PM   
Ed Smith


 

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quote:

In your opinion, what's the best Pylon racer for the price. Keep in mind, I'm a novice at Pylon.


Get a plan and build your own. Then you know it is put together properly.

Ed S

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RE: Predator II ?? - 3/7/2006 1:58:21 PM   
HighPlains


 

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quote:

quote:

In your opinion, what's the best Pylon racer for the price. Keep in mind, I'm a novice at Pylon.

Get a plan and build your own. Then you know it is put together properly.

Ed S


Better yet, is to design your own. Copy something (after all, you would think by now everything has been tried) and make your own modifications. Evolve the design (this happens faster with tight racing). After all, the general consensus is that all the ARF quickies are crap. What could be easier to design and build than a 5 sided box with wing and tail?

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RE: Predator II ?? - 3/7/2006 3:55:45 PM   
Ed Smith


 

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I agree with High Plains!!!....Did I really say that?? The airframe rule pretty much designs the airplane for you. If you want a basic outline to start with I will gladly send you a copy of my plan. It is full size, however I use a glass fuselage and foam wing so there is very little construction detail to show.

Ed S

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RE: Predator II ?? - 3/8/2006 7:37:57 PM   
daven



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Status: offline 		I agree with Ed and Highplains (Wow, did I say that too?)

That is basically the background on why I started the Seeker. I was not happy with the available options and decided to start my own. I basically just took the moments off the Vortex and designed something similar and it flew great.

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RE: Predator II ?? - 3/8/2006 9:38:00 PM   
Ed Smith


 

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I agree with Ed and Highplains (Wow, did I say that too?)


This is getting too sickly. We need something more controversial

Ed S

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RE: Predator II ?? - 3/8/2006 10:26:12 PM   
HighPlains


 

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RE: Predator II ?? - 3/8/2006 11:39:48 PM   
DHG


 

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RE: Predator II ?? - 3/9/2006 11:11:03 AM   
smokingwreckage


 

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Status: offline 		The rules pretty much design the plane.

Fuselage shape and size: build to minimums for lowest weight and drag.

Wing area and span, chord thickness, and plan: build to maximum span and minimum wing area (determines chord) to minimum thickness. Some choice allowed with airfoil and aileron placement and configuration. Also, a 4-screw mount is now required for a single aileron servo, though a 2-screw mount is okay for dual servos. For all the debate about low vs. mid vs. high wing placement, all have been successful.

Choose between conventional and V-tail, but I expect more conventional tails to pop up considering the new rule requiring rudder-like control.

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RE: Predator II ?? - 3/9/2006 11:33:47 AM   
Ed Smith


 

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Choose between conventional and V-tail, but I expect more conventional tails to pop up considering the new rule requiring rudder-like control.


Is there a new rule regarding rudder control? Did I miss a rule change?

We have rudder control on Vee tails anyway with transmitter mixing.

Ed S

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