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RE: Fun with Flat Foam - 3/30/2008 4:42:49 PM   
Atzanik



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I've used rcfoam.com once (order #19135)... and will look for alternatives next time I have to order. I only ordered in stock product, and it took them over a month to actually ship the order, and only after a few emails asking wth was going on. However I will say that it was packaged well, and the product was in excellent shape when it arrived


Brian,
could there been some hold up on the shipping due to you living in another country? Just wondering.

I know it takes that long for us to get stuff from United hobbies....... but that is on the other side of the world (China) verses the other side of the border


Hi Marco,

No, it actually only took 3 days to get from them to me (which is pretty good). The problem was exactly as I described... they didn't actually ship the order for a month. I order from UH quite a bit, and it takes about 2 weeks for stuff to get here.

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RE: Fun with Flat Foam - 3/31/2008 11:17:50 AM   
Pecanpatch



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Status: offline 		RCfoam is on my way home everyday from the ATL airport.
I've been wanting to go by there, but still havnt.

I havnt ran out of FFF yet.

Even my CF rods have been getting re-used.
Its important to try to keep these guys in business though.

Read the latest AMA magazine article about our hobby suppliers. it was an eye opener for me.



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RE: Fun with Flat Foam - 3/31/2008 5:19:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pecanpatch, might you have a link to the AMA article which you mentioned? I will give it a read.

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RE: Fun with Flat Foam - 3/31/2008 5:29:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I dont know if its on-line....... but the gist of it is, the Companies that supply modellers with "stuff" could probably make a ton of money going after the masses with other products.......

Instead of making Radio Control units they could build any number of other consumer electronics that are sold by the millions worldwide. Laptops , Digital cameras, etc.

To a degree this goes for all the suppliers....

Balsa wood is used to insulate big massive oil tankers. enough wood to build more arfs than you can imagine.

It said rumours can so hurt a hobby manufacturer beyond belief.

Your not an AMA member?



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RE: Fun with Flat Foam - 3/31/2008 6:00:58 PM   
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RE: Fun with Flat Foam - 3/31/2008 8:31:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Pecanpatch

I dont know if its on-line....... but the gist of it is, the Companies that supply modellers with "stuff" could probably make a ton of money going after the masses with other products.......

Instead of making Radio Control units they could build any number of other consumer electronics that are sold by the millions worldwide. Laptops , Digital cameras, etc.

To a degree this goes for all the suppliers....

Balsa wood is used to insulate big massive oil tankers. enough wood to build more arfs than you can imagine.

It said rumours can so hurt a hobby manufacturer beyond belief.

Your not an AMA member?




I'm not an AMA member, nor do I have access to the mag... so an online link would be cool if we can find one. I'm sure it would be an interesting read. With that all aside.., my response above was simply the one experience (not rumour) I had with the company. In my opinion, I won't be doing business with them again because I didn't like the run-around I got. I'll just drive the hour out of town and get my foam from the nearest hobbyshop for a buck a sheet more, or find some other place online to try and order from.

I don't like to bash suppliers, or stores, even if I have had a negative experience dealing with them. But if someone asks what I think about my experience with them, I'll tell them honestly what happened (as I did above).

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RE: Fun with Flat Foam - 3/31/2008 9:47:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		the balsa used to insulate ships probably isn't as thin as anything that's used to make airplanes with. I would imagine it to be at least 1/2" thick.

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RE: Fun with Flat Foam - 4/1/2008 1:00:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Guys, I am a Newbie here but I have been watching this website forever. I built up a stealth look alike plane that I designed and I put the guts from a Parkzone typhoon in it. I used a hobbyzone challenger pusher prop. It has a brushless motor and I even used the the stock typhoon battery. I have been itching to try it out and was hoping that the weight would not be an issue. What do you know, It flew really well. I didn't have enough throw in my servo so I was basically flying it around with the throttle wide open and the elevons trimmed all the way up. It floated in the wind like a leaf when I cut the power and brought her down. With the wind, the airspeed was non existant upon landing. I made two great flights and then I tried some tricks. It rolls so fast that it looks like a dart and it will loop if I let it slight dive and build up some airspeed. It will fly upside down easily and it even will do a hover for about 10 seconds on full power before it falls off. It is touchy to turn and I was over controlling it for a while till I got the feel of the controls. I just wanted to chime in and say I am hooked on the flat foam models. This thread has really gotten me hooked. I am going to experiment with this one for a while before I try to build another. Foam alone I spent 8 bucks. Can't beat it. I'll be watching this area for awhile and I will chime in every so often. Later Sorry no pics for now, because the wife has it on a trip with her.

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RE: Fun with Flat Foam - 4/1/2008 11:47:27 AM   
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The ideal balsa wood tree for harvesting is between six and ten years old. After ten years, the inner core of the tree begins to rot and the outer layers become useless. A balsa wood tree is naturally fortified by water stored in large cells. There may only be one or two balsa wood trees in an entire acre of land, so harvesting is usually performed by one or two native workers with axes and carving knives for bark removal. The hewn trees are carried to the river and bundled for easier water transport to the processing plant. Barges carry the trees all the way to ports in the United States.

Because raw balsa wood has such a high moisture content, it must be dried in a kiln for at least two weeks before it can be used commercially. The drying process creates an ultralight wood which is usually cut into sheets or round dowels. Balsa wood does have a grain, so consumers should be aware of what type of cut they need for a specific project. Some balsa wood is cut across the grain, which makes it suitable for carving but not for weight-bearing struts. Many of us may remember the toy balsa wood airplanes sold in stores, so it is easy to imagine how fragile balsa wood can be.


JM-acording to this from the web..... The balsa wood gets sawed up to the sizes we need once it gets here.

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RE: Fun with Flat Foam - 4/6/2008 3:02:44 AM   
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RE: Fun with Flat Foam - 4/6/2008 3:06:13 AM   
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You might want rudder control on that one though...

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RE: Fun with Flat Foam - 4/6/2008 3:16:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		j.m., yes, rudder would make the acft more responsive. However, for this acft I was experimenting with a few things. One of those was seeing how simple the build might be. Only two servos were used.


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