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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 2/2/2007 1:01:00 AM   
Don McCullough


 

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Status: offline 		I run with just a rounded hub similar to the one that came with the Brio 10. Only, I use the one that uses set-screws rather than the collet (seems more secure and reliable). As to warps, just a warning to inspect. I noticed that the ailerons on the Brio 10 on the cover of Backyard Flyer a few months back was warped. Obviously that is a staged picture as that plane sould not fly well with that much warp. Having said that, the Brio is one of the best constructed kits I have seen. I originally had an E-flite 480 but replaced it with the E-flight Power 10. I can practice the full masters pattern with it with ease and seldom use full throttle even with a good wind.

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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 2/2/2007 3:16:57 AM   
KC36330


 

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ORIGINAL: RoyR


Thank you for your quick answer.
I don't mean to be a bother but I have another question
I bought the Park 480 motor. Recommended were APC props, I started with 11X5.5
Using the prop adaptor that came with the motor and the spinner supplied in the Brio Kit, there is no way the spinner back plate will fit over the prop. The design of the APC prop holds the spinner back plate too far forward to even put the nut on the shaft. As far as I can tell, the instructions with the airplane seem to show an APC prop, but there is no way (I can find) to use the spinner. I imagine my first few flights will be without the spinner unless anyone knows of some way to mount it.
As far as a different type spinner, there does not seem to be any extra room to fit a back plate behind the prop and have enough threads to hold it on.



you are using an electric prop correct?? i use APC in both a 10x7e and an 11x5.5e and both fit the stock spinner perfectly with no trimming.

kc



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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 2/2/2007 4:13:16 PM   
RoyR


 

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RoyR,

I have the same motor and an APC prop in mine (I think it's an 11x7) and remember cutting out the spinner to get the prop to fit. You won't need to cut out as much as it seems you will. I cut 2 notches just to the flat part of the backplate and there were just enough threads left on the shaft to get the nut all the way on.




Thanks, I will try that. I really hadn't thought of modifying the spinner because of the way it is made, with the back part open. It should work. With the spinner back plate on do you have trouble getting enough threads on the prop adaptor to tighten the prop??

From my questions you would think this is my first airplane. I imagine I have built hundreds of models over the years.
It's funny that I have no problems making things work in a kit, but this is a different ballgame for me.

Once I get the spinner fitted, about all I have left to do is adjust the control linkages, charge the battery, and fly.

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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 2/2/2007 5:29:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I finally got the brio on the table for assm.. First thing I noticed was the left aileron was warped bad. I tried to heat it and straighten it with no luck. I contacted horizon and they sent me 2 new wings. I was impressed with that but it is funny that the 2 new wings were warped to. Is there an easy fix for this? I would love to fix it myself rather than ask for a new set. I have the tools, just need the "know how". Any advise would be great and appreciated. Also would it be better to can the power 10 and get the 480? I am not a pro flyer by any means. I just want it to fly gracefully at first.

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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 2/17/2007 3:12:40 PM   
rjbranchii


 

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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 2/17/2007 5:25:51 PM   
KC36330


 

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Status: offline 		mine weighed in at 33.4oz w/ 2100 mah 3s LiPo and flies beautifully.

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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 2/23/2007 10:37:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have had my Brio for close to a 6 months now, i like the way it flies but was wanting more power than the 480 was giving me.

I thought of putting the e-flite power 10 but ended up putting this motor on the plane.

Welgard C3536-05 Brushless Outrunner Motor

No. of Cells: 2 - 3 Li-Poly
Kv: 1520 RPM/V
Max Current: 34A Continuous
38A for 60S
Max Watts: 400W
Weight: 107.8 g / 3.8 oz
Size: 35 mm x 36 mm
Shaft Diameter: 4mm
Poles: 14
Model Weight: 900 - 1200 g / 31.7 - 42.3 oz

The reason I went with this motor was its higher KV rating over the e-flite motor. I'm going to give the A123 Racing Li-ions a try and the higher KV should help with the lower nominal voltage of the 3 cell A123 Li-ion.

My AUW is 34.5oz w/2300 a123 Racing Li-ion.

The static motor test was 330 watts input at 36 amps with the APC 12x6E.

There in that second pic I added a aluminum strip under the landing gear to reinforce it for the extra weight. I think everyone that owns this plane will agree the gear is the biggest weak spot on this bird. Placing the aluminum strip under the gear really has stiffened the gear quite well.

Hopefully the weather will break here and I can get this plane in the air.

Jerry.

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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 3/16/2007 6:19:42 AM   
Mr. Mugen



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Status: offline 		So did you ever get it up? I want to hear a report on that battery before I spend a bunch of dough on a few of them. Thanks

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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 3/16/2007 7:00:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: imfly1234

finally finished my brio build, what a mess. it better fly really well for the crap i had to do to get it in flying shape. auw is at 31.3oz, heavyweight indeed. this looks like its build to crash, not fly. hope to report something positive soon~

~jon


I totally agree man... My build has been horrible, and finally after getting it together, i sure do hope it flys better then the build. Everytime i pick up this plane i hear something else crack. I surprised that such thin and week wood this plane uses, it builds kinda heavy.

Service_dude: I also would like the hear the results with the A123 cells on this bird. With the higher KV motor it should help but, i think 3 cells will be a tad small. who knows!!


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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 4/6/2007 11:11:59 PM   
service_dude


 

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I have maybe 20 flights on my Brio with the a123's. The 3 cell a123 seems to be a good match for this motor. I am using a 11x7 APC sport prop on the plane, i'm pulling around 34 amps static with 36 oz of measured thrust. I have tried a few different props and the 11x7 seem to be the best so far. An APC 12x6E was pulling 36 amps static and 40 oz thrust. I tried an APC 11x10 pattern also and it drew just under 40 amps but I did not notice any gain in the air speed of the plane.

One thing I'm changing on the plane is the wheel size. Going with the 3 in. mpi maxx wheels. I have my CC35 set to a 6.6 volt LVC. When you use up the charge on these a123's the charge falls off a cliff. I had to dead stick the plane and land on the grass at the field I fly at, and the 1 3/4 in. wheels I was using did not get the job done.

Anyways, I'm happy with how the plane flies. I'm getting 7 minute flight times and the 15 minute charge time on the a123 is great.

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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 4/24/2007 3:53:16 AM   
Mr. Mugen



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Status: offline 		thanks for the update. I am ready to maiden mine finally. Just waiting on a new canopy. It was cracked right out of the box.....didn't even notice until I needed to put it on.

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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 5/11/2007 4:01:00 PM   
ntsmith


 

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Status: offline 		Anyone got any hints fitting the tail braces?
Where the heck do you fit them and how?

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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 5/11/2007 4:20:35 PM   
KC36330


 

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Status: offline 		below the stab and they glue on, i used Hysol worked great.

kc

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RE: BRIO Electric 10-size - 5/12/2007 12:28:58 AM   
ntsmith


 

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Status: offline 		Yes. I know they go below the stab
what I mean is. Are there any fitting points, like holes or anything or are they simply wedged then glued.


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