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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/23/2009 5:15 PM   
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I noticed yours said 2amp. That should still work on normal servos (not digital servos). And I like soft start.

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/23/2009 5:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure about the poles except to say that the number of poles you have on the motor tells you the timing and frequency you should use on the ESC power. I would use the automatic timing setting.

If you knew the number of poles on your motor I guess I would look up the power setting since I have that info somewhere. But I would just try the high frequency setting first - I think that was 16 Hrz.

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/24/2009 11:08 AM   
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yes i bow to the master lol
2 min after it not working a little voice pop into my head and said "should of stuck with common stuff" lol
but i still didnt learn my lesson , i just reallised
cause i got another cheap one off ebay last night ...dam what was i thinking lol ( a 40A ESC it was only $12.50 and free post so really who cares )
so after you have a good laugh that i didnt learn the first time lol
but going back to the mystery of the mystery ESC yes i think you are right about the trim but i really think its the walkera 701 tx
but youve given me some new ideas on things to try cheers
so this will be my next problem
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ESC 40A
Weight: 28g
Dimensions: 45.0*24.0*9.0mm
Current(A): 30-40
BEC: 3A
PWM: 16K
Li-Po: 2-3
Ni-Mh/Ni-cd: 4-10Ni-Mh
Features:
BEC: 3A Constant current 30A Max 40A <10s Li-Poly 2-3 cells; Ni-MH 4-10 cells Auto Detect Break On/Off; Auto Low battery Slow down at 3.0V/cell Lipo, cut-off at 2.9V/cell Lipo
*Note: Timing and P WM can be programmable if required. Currently we just want to keep this product simple and easy to use for Beginers.
According to our experience Too complex of the small ESCs only make more trouble and need more effort of supporting.

AND the reason i got this one cause it does stated li-po 2-3 where the mystery ESC only stated Li-ion 2～3cells Li-ion 2～3cells
ok i am going get the helis out and give it one more try let ya know how i get on
oh one more thing the mystery has a cut off on low power and the lowest was 8.4 volt and i was thinking this mite have something to do with it auto shut off???
cheers all

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/24/2009 1:32 PM   
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you where right
it was all about the trim
trim and stick up , to enter program mode

ok so i think i changed the freq or what ever i did the motor ran, oh well i no the motor works lol
but now i find that i can only use the throttle stick
if i move other stick it shuts down

sorry i stand corrected
i just plugged it back in
and ran motor at 1/4 stick and had the tail servo move 3 or 4 times and then it shut down
think its time to pull shrink rap off and check connections cause it does not seem to be the same thing over and over
also in prgram mode i get
beep
beep,beep
beep,beep
beep,beep,beep
beep,beep,beep
repeats twice and then shuts down

and also with stick down i now get a long beep when i started i was only getting a short beep
cheers jd
i am getting closer
but if you have any ideas i am all ears lol
cheers again

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/24/2009 3:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think you will have better luck with the new ESC codicave. it has 3Volts to run the reciever and servo's. Low cutoff shouldn't affect anything if your batteries are charged.

I hope you have good luck with your stuff. I went through all of that before. And as I said I ended up spending as much as just getting the good stuff in the end and then on top of it bought the good stuff, meaning now you have two esc's and you could've gotten the align 35Amp for a few dollars more. But, when it does work out you feel really proud of yourself and your knowledge of other stuff is fun to have and you save some money. So again just keep at it and try to get them to work, best of luck.

JD

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/24/2009 4:05 PM   
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in programing mode you should've gone through more beep series. the order and number of beeps you mentioned don't seem right to me. Some of the settings start at 4 beeps in a row and the most you listed was three in a row.

For kicks you should try changing brake on and off. verifiy that you did it with a normal startup and count the beeps to see if you turned the brake on or off.

programing can be real tricky till you get the hang of it.

and it seems like you may have your esc setup thinking you have a two cell lipo instead of three cell.

You have to get to the point that when it runs through all its beeps you can follow it through the setup instructions and tell what each parameter is set to..

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/24/2009 4:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		ok boys its not the ESC
ITS THE WALKERA TX OR RX damit
as i dug out a old 6 channel tx but its not pcm only standed fm
and rigged up esc to that and guess what it worked fine , now i just need to figure out how to program it lol , as none of the beeps match up to any of info i have DOOH
the walkera tx or rx must lose signal for a sec so in turn shuts down the ESC
but this is still strange as the walkera tx and rx worked fine on the brushed setup
dam think its time to get dx7 cause when i went looking for the old 6ch fm tx i found 17 other old tx's
think its time to emty my RC hobby room and just make it my heli room
as this hobby is addictive


question
as i have a old fm 6 channel
can i use this and just use a Y connecter on the pitch servo and the esc unit????
jd
i know this not the norm
just thinking outside the box

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/24/2009 4:39 PM   
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If you have a 6 channel TX and RX that go together they should work fine as long as they have helicopter mode-a 90 degree setup mode. You only need 6 channels. I am not sure what you are trying to achieve by hooking in a Y splice. And if it is not a Heli radio with electronic programing I do not know what you could do or if you could do anything to make it work - - except to change the head of your heli to be an mccpm type setup.

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/24/2009 6:52 PM   
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no its not a heli tx , not ccpm tx.
i was going to try to make thottle and pitch work together with the Y connecter.
but no , so i will put it back on the pile lol and save my cash for dx7
and thanks again jd for all the info you have helped no end

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/24/2009 7:07 PM   
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i do relise that i dont need 7 channel
unless i have a gyro with two wires
or you want to get a fuselarge with retrack wheels
witch in the end when i step up to a 450trex or something of this qualty
witch i would like to do maybe later this year

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/24/2009 7:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		A gyro with two wires only needs a 6 channel radio. The seventh channel would be for something not related to flying the heli like a bomb dropper or crane.

1 Aileron
2. Throttle
3.rudder (wire comes from Gyro)
4.gyro sensitivity (wire comes from Gyro)
5 Pitch
6.elevator

No particular order.

JD

PS - you will love the DX7. I would try to buy one without the servo's. The AR6100 (est. $60) will work with your heli so if you can get the DX7 with this Reciever that would be good or you can use the more expensive dual reciever (est. $100). I'm not sure of all the packaging combo's that are available but the cheap reciver and just the radio would be best value for your Heli.

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/25/2009 3:10 PM   
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yes the dx7 would be nice as the blade cx2 came with a AR6100 and i still have the old 4in1 twister bell heli unit witch worked sweet as ,in the twister bell
both cx2 and twister bell are the same heli just the cx2 is a update to the twister bell


and does anyone think this will work

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/25/2009 3:55 PM   
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Yes I think that would work. I think the center wire of the throttle servo plug from the ESC is the power wire you would need to cut if you hook up an external battery pack to run the RX and Servo's. But I would not suggest adding that weight or doing that. If I was worried about the power to the RX and Servo's I would just add a (darn I can't think of the name of it) oh BEC! that splices into the main power off the ESC before the ESC. not splicing from the battery side of the plug- splice on the ESC side of the plug. And that is what you need.

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/25/2009 4:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		cheers jd
i will look in what BEC does
and as for the weight i think i have or can find a 6v small lion or lipo cant remember laying around here some where
things i have laying around here is some what of a joke like i found yesterday a very old orginal grass hooper car speed control you know the old ones that sat on top of a servo and moved two contacts over a copper plate lol, think it would class as a Antique
"funny how 20+ years flys by lol "

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/25/2009 5:21 PM   
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also the other reason i had the question about the wiring
is cause one day i am going to hook two elec ducted fan jets ,one each side of the heli
yes i know i am mad lol and some would say crazy , nut even lol
but this is my goal. it may take a couple of years to happen but it will happen .
have even thought about putting one on the tail of the 22e , i know this has been done before
as i know these heli's can left a bit of weight . i think acebusa or soneebee put seperates on there 22e heli
witch must of added a heap of extra weight to it

and no i will not use extra battery idea ,well not to fly anyway good to know when testing stuff tho
but then again if i could find a battery light enought it would work
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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/25/2009 5:36 PM   
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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/25/2009 5:55 PM   
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you mean one of these yes????

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/25/2009 6:27 PM   
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The BEC is your answer. I have to use one on my logo 10. once a battery gets to powerful the bec in the ESC will over heat trying to drop the voltage so people buy a separate BEC that can handle the voltage stepdown. Most ESC's over 50 amps do not have BEC's incorporated in them so all people with big heli's and high voltage batteries are forced to get BEC's. Also called UBEC, you can get a 6V one.

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/25/2009 6:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Codicave, yes like that UBEC.

UBEC-5A-HV ($25.00) - one like this is switchable between 5v and 6v and puts out 5Amp continous current. Some gyro's cannot handle 6 volts and normal servo's that operate at 4.8V will get hot using 6V. So be carefull you know what your servo's and Gyro want as far as volts or just make it easy and get one that has a jumper to switch it to either 5V or 6V and 5 or 6 amps of output current so that way if you go to digital servos you can just change the UBEC's setting.

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/25/2009 10:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		a local USA online store RcCarMax has full line of Walkera Helis
www.RcCarMax.com
Latest version 60#B in stock

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/26/2009 2:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		cheers for that JD
I didnt not know that about digtal servos ( i learn something new everyday)
got my new standed walkera 180l today in post , scored it for $20 the other day on ebay
ill fire it up on weekend and see how that goes
cheers again for all the info

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/8/2009 4:53 PM   
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it seems to have slowed down around here
ANY ONE OUT THERE?
ok figured all the problems out
problem one was that dam mystery ESC cause i got a other RCTIMER ESC off ebay hooked it up all works fine with the walkera tx and rx
flys sweet as, just have a little vibe around 40% thottle . cant figure out where its coming from i have checked every thing , i do know its blades , cause with out them
it spinns up to full thottle and the heli dont even move . i have tried to balance them they seem balance our is this just stock plastic blades.?
and can we get away with 300mm blades???
the pic below is for any one that whats to know a cheap 40A ESC from EBAY and really cheap that works with walkera rx as i have found some that dont work like MYSTERY

JD
the BEC did work but i was thinking if i was having trouble on the ground with the mystery ESC i sould not use it on the heli just to be safe ..lol
ok guys heres a laugh for you (DAVES BUM ASSH MOMENT)BUT goes for all newbies
upgraded the head the other night got up to where i had no blades or flybar paddles on it but had the flybar in the head
and i in my wisdom i spun up the head
but i had forgot to do up the flybar
do you need me to go on .ok i will
yes the flybar came flying out and land 10mm in my GODDAM LEFT ARM
it all good tho i did not brake the heli and the flybar is still straigt lol



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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/8/2009 7:19 PM   
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I'm glade to hear you got it running good.

are you balancing the blades both ways? Blade to blade and tip to root?

JD

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/9/2009 5:22 PM   
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if you mean C of G on both blades are the same yes and both weight is the same
I HAVE even made the blade bolts the same weight
not really fussed about it as it still flys sweet and it is about 40%to 45% thottle below lift off speed
got some carbon ones coming and next week i am going to order some fibre glass 300mm blade and see how they work out

happy flying and good weather too all

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 6/11/2009 2:01 AM   
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Are the  canopy Screws a Left hand thread ?

What size socket fit  it?


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