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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/30/2006 1:41:07 PM   
jascamera


 

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Status: offline 		You really need to have a seperate reciever and ESC setup. Otherwise, it will never be glitch free. I would suggest to get a ESC, the reciever works fine. Don't get walkera ESC they can burn out easily.

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/30/2006 4:32:58 PM   
consultjdm


 

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keep us informed.

My brushless setup burned up before I ever got the head spun up. Waiting to see how it works with the Lipo/brushless motor, I should get my new motor next week I think.

My Brushed setup is weird. The head cannot be powered off all the way by pulling the throttle down. must be something wrong with the TX/RX or ESC. Still figiting with the darn esc starter button (little red button you push to activate it), I think I may just by a new ESC they are pretty cheap for brushed motors.


But when the brushed one flies it is very stable. however it has been a little glitchy when I flew it outside. If it were'nt glitchy it would be very good. Not shure how the lift is yet, I did not go to high just 5-6 ft because it was glitching. And by the time I got comfortable the batt was low. The flying time was pretty limited, 8-10 minutes maybe. I flew it in my living room last night. it feels very stable, and was easy to fly. I'm Just scared it will glitch and take off into the TV.

I plan on getting a QCPM reciever and trying it with my eclipse 7.

Most HH gyros have two wires going to the reciever. One for the servo into channel 4 and one for sensitivity into channel 5 at least on my Hitec eclipse 7. Where gyro sensistivity can be set from the radio, over 50% you move into heading hold mode. The alternate for the eclispe is into channel 7. Then you adjust the sensitivity and gain from the pots on the Gyro and the switch for #7 turns heading hold on and off. Then out the other side of the gyro is a lead that connects to the tail servo.

I forget what the insturctions for the #60 were but there is quite a bevy of choices based on how you switch the dip switches. I thought you could adjust it all, but it has revo mixing I think which normally you would not use with the hitec when using HH.

It was so complicated I just thought I would put it up in the air and if it flew okay I would leave it alone for now. My tail was stable. So I expect if I do mess with it it will be to adjust the lift charactoristics, But I don't know if i need to yet.

I think the #60 will be a great Heli! I love the the tail drive setup. I didn't notice any problems with my tail gyro moving / sliding or anything wrong with it. I'll keep an eye on it, thanks for the heads up. I'll keep the CA glue handy.

Jd

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/30/2006 4:34:43 PM   
consultjdm


 

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Are you talking about for the Brushed ESC, Brushless, or both? Which do you have and what did you buy to replace it.

Thanks

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/30/2006 4:41:17 PM   
consultjdm


 

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Oh, I see your talking about the #36 brushless.

Which ESC did you get? I was thinking maybe a 25Aor 35A Phoenix. My brushless motor burned up when I turned it on. do you think it was a bad ESC/ Or did your esc's just stop working. My motor heated up so I think it was my motor. But I am not opposed to swithing out the esc if I hear there are problems with them. I wonder if the the #60 ESC and Brushless motors are the same ones that you have for your #36? I am not home now but my motor is long thinner than a 370 brushed motor can, and a pinkish redish can.

JD

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/30/2006 11:01:20 PM   
Argos


 

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Its nice to see all the post about this damn helicopter and Walkera. I guess if mine were glitch free I could fly it all over without a problem. I am sure I would flip the 3D switch and then wreck it soon after that if it wasnt for the trusty glicthing. I went to Springdale AR yesterday and they had one hobby shop out in the back woods that had HELI blades...The owner never heard of Walkera and suggested I try the MX400 blade, he thought they might fit. Of course, he only had the Carbon Fiber ones at 40.00 dollars a set. I feel so raped!!! They were about an inch longer then my original ones and would probably cut off the tail rotor if I tried to start the damn thing. So anyone need a brand new pair of CF blades for an (FOR SALE) MX400 they look sweet, but wont work for me.

JD, I Have the Walkera 30amp ESC without the little button and it seems to work very well, dont think that will help you any but thought I would tell you.

Cheers
Argos.

6 days until my new blades get here. GRRR.

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/31/2006 12:44:35 AM   
don_87


 

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I haven't seen where anyone addressed your problem of blade rotation, so I hope this helps(I was wrong last time, lol).
I have a #4 and a 22d(both 4 channel) but I noticed you said you have the throttle trim "centered" , on the 4 channel the throttle trim nust be all the way down or the blades will turn. Hope I helped you this time.
Don

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/31/2006 3:25:54 AM   
consultjdm


 

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those blades would look sweet on my Showgun.

I use the x400 plastic blades.

That ESC came with your brushed motor?

not fair. Im gonna buy a new esc, its ridiculus not being able to shut the thing off without reaching under the spinning blades

JD

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/31/2006 3:32:49 AM   
consultjdm


 

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Good try,. Thanks

But no turning the trim down only slows them down, it wont stopem.


I think Im gonna buy a new ESC and see if tht works.

I havent heard if anyone has the brushed motor and can get it to stop once it starts, which is its own game of pressing the red button . I think if mine shut off right it would start right. Meaning one push and then the throttle would just start it. I have to push the little button severl times and finally it starts for no apparent reason. It obviously is not registering that the throttle is all the way off. The auto calibration if it has it is not working.

JD

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/31/2006 4:33:10 AM   
blackwhip


 

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Status: offline 		Glitching is caused by the sparks created inside of brushed motors. Brushed motors make a lot of electrical noise.. electrical arcing from the brushes to the commutator. To reduce the noise there are capacitors connected to them. If the antenna is near any electrical wire, there will be glitching. There is a major problem with the #60's. the brushed motor is connected to a metal frame. The metal frame acts like a giant antenna/conductor for electrical noise! So it is very hard to run the antenna away from the frame.. That is impossible!! That is why the other models#35, #36 and etc... don't have that much glitching because the frame is made of plastic. If you are getting the #60 , make sure it has a brushless motor. Brushless motors create very very little noise. That is my 2 cents!

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/31/2006 4:44:40 AM   
consultjdm


 

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Status: online 		Black wip do you think ferrite rings will help between the ESC and the RX.

Any other suggestion, other than get a brushless motor?

Jd

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 3/31/2006 6:30:53 AM   
blackwhip