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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/3/2006 9:12:33 PM   
minerva


 

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Status: offline 		The new Walkera 60 / DragonFly 60 is available now at your Store! Walkera-60 3D Electric RC Helicopter, new and with excepcional 7-ch remote control.

You can check detailed technical data at Walkera 60 at Minervahobby

Enjoy at least as i do!

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/3/2006 9:33:40 PM   
consultjdm


 

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Status: offline 		Gyroed,
On computerized / digital transmitters it normally goes in channel 5. Then you can adjust the sensitivity. Under 50% HH turns off. usually start with it at 70 and go up untill it starts to wag the tail (sometimes called hunting) and then back of till it stops or is manageable.

Hopefully your Gyro can be used with normal radios, and has pots (little screwdriver spots) to adjust gain, sensitivity, and dip switches to select Digital or normal servos and normal or reverse. Then you wouldnt need to plug in the extra wire. (My EF gyro can only be used with radios that control the gyro but I've had othe HH Gyro's that can be done mannually or through the TXJD)

When you turn it on and press the rudder stick to turn right if it goes left you would have to reverse the servo from the transmitter. (if it then starts to spin uncontrollably in either the right direction or wrong direction you need to reverse the gyro direction)

so if it turns right when you want to you then can stop the motor. look at which way the pitch goes on the tail when you turn right with the stick and then pick it up holding it in your hand and turn it to the left and the tails gyro should act like its trying to turn right (the same way the tail rotors pitich changed when you gave it right turn with the stick input.) If the gyro make the pitch go the opisite way then you have to reverse the gyro dip switch on the gyro.

JD


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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/4/2006 2:57:06 AM   
Argos


 

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Status: offline 		Next question, what would I adjust if my heli likes to rotate to the right. I have tried to adjust the trim on the radio that controls the tail but it doesnt seem to work. I believe this is the one that the gyro controls, so I would have to mess with some of the set screws right, on the gyro?

Has anyone done it? I only need to slightly adjust mine I can still fly it the way it is but would like to have it totally trimmed out for a smooth hover.

Ideas? Please be specific, pictures if possible.

Thanks
Argos

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/4/2006 7:21:45 AM   
Argos


 

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Status: offline 		Guess, JD answered that above....
Sorry

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/4/2006 8:19:06 AM   
consultjdm


 

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Status: offline 		I think we are saying turn up the sensitivity if it slightly turns right.

normally you should be able to adjust the trim and then you go to far and it should start drifting to the left then. I am assuming that you can make it drift either way when I suggest turning up the sensitivity. if you cant get it to go the other way when trimmed all the way I would suggest either repositioning the arm on the servo or sliding the linkage holding the seasaw to get the thing to have the tail rotor blades centered/flat no pitch when the arm is pointing straight down on the servo. Try to get it as close as possible then try again. if you can now trim either right or left then turn up the sensitivity to get it to hold. and turn up the gain if it does not have enough movement to both the left and right on the servo. Servos normally should have at least a 45 degree deflection from center for both sides. So if the servo is centered you probably want to move the plastic collar on the boom up next to the frame either bach toward the tail or closer to the frame to get the tail rotor pitch right.

Jd

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/4/2006 8:13:38 PM   
Gyroed


 

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ORIGINAL: consultjdm

Gyroed,
On computerized / digital transmitters it normally goes in channel 5. Then you can adjust the sensitivity. Under 50% HH turns off. usually start with it at 70 and go up untill it starts to wag the tail (sometimes called hunting) and then back of till it stops or is manageable.

Hopefully your Gyro can be used with normal radios, and has pots (little screwdriver spots) to adjust gain, sensitivity, and dip switches to select Digital or normal servos and normal or reverse. Then you wouldnt need to plug in the extra wire. (My EF gyro can only be used with radios that control the gyro but I've had othe HH Gyro's that can be done mannually or through the TXJD)

When you turn it on and press the rudder stick to turn right if it goes left you would have to reverse the servo from the transmitter. (if it then starts to spin uncontrollably in either the right direction or wrong direction you need to reverse the gyro direction)

so if it turns right when you want to you then can stop the motor. look at which way the pitch goes on the tail when you turn right with the stick and then pick it up holding it in your hand and turn it to the left and the tails gyro should act like its trying to turn right (the same way the tail rotors pitich changed when you gave it right turn with the stick input.) If the gyro make the pitch go the opisite way then you have to reverse the gyro dip switch on the gyro.

JD




Thanks! Ill install it and give it a go this weekend!

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/4/2006 9:15:29 PM   
consultjdm


 

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Status: offline 		I just heard back from Futaba, they're gonna give me a new Gyro for 107.95 plus I spent 4.85 to ship the broken one to them. I think I am saving about $10-$20 haha, not much for my trouble and waiting.

But I can hardley wait to put it on my showgun. I better start working on getting it fixed so it is ready for the new Gyro.

But I still have to work on my NR3D to get it ready for the replacement brushless motor, Im gonna modify the frame, I think that will get this 3rd motor to work.

And I really want to install my new TX / RX in my walkera 60 brushed heli.

So much to do.

Let us know if you get your heli running good.

JD

Its raining, must be a repair night.

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/5/2006 6:54:57 PM   
consultjdm


 

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Status: offline 		I got my new brushless motor from RC expert yesterday, its a gold one that is wider and has fins and worked. I can hardley wait to fly it. Felt like it had a ton of lift at 1/3 throttle, I will have to look at the pitch curve. Oh, I changed out the radio and reciever to a DX6, I will let you know how it is, no more glitching I hope, And I put a Phoenix 35Amp ESC with the new motor. The new motor is different than others I have, it feels like there are no magnets, must be electro magnets. and sort of an out runner design.

I had to move my battery under the frame because it will not fit in the frame and is to front heavy with the new motor.
If someone finds a good battery that fits in the frame post it.

JD

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/6/2006 12:43:13 AM   
Argos


 

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Let me know how it goes for you. I think I am going to purchase a new ESC. This maybe the source of all the glitching. I have found a dealer that is in Texas and carriers all the parts for all walkera helicopters. Here is a link to his store and he is very helpful on the phone, very experienced. Hope this helps you guys as much as it has me.

RCandME

http://stores.ebay.com/RC-and-ME

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/6/2006 1:28:17 AM   
consultjdm


 

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Tim at RCandMe is very helpful. fast and honest. He is now replacing the 2nd brushless motor I burned up due to installation problems. So I would say buy form him.

I flew my brushless walkera 60 for the first time a few minutes ago. its very windy out, 15 knots. NOt one radio hit. It was radical in the wind but I chanced it and then flew next to the garage door for a couple minutes shaded from the wind a little. What a rush.

I could smell the motor heating up so I decided to give it a rest. We'll see how it does with more flight and I will start timing them.

The new radio I got does not have a timer so I'll have to use the stopwatch on my watch. No biggie.

The tail rotor case rotated a little in flight. I'll see about tightening the screws.

Of course my Pheonix 35Amp ESC worked.

But if you want to end glitching - get the DX6.

No question about it, it was a dream. $200.00 (radio one receiver 4 servos, and charger). It can run 10 models. Each additional receiver is $60. I got two extras, one for my TREX and one for my brushed showgun, But I'm buying another tomorrow for my brushed motor Walkera 60. Every time I flew it (3 times I think) it gliched pretty bad, except when I flew it in the house a couple feet from me. But the new TX / RX made it fly perfect.

Now I want to fly it again, and I will feel real good about flying it in the house. although its a little big really, a lot of wash.

Argos, If your not going to get the DX6 Spectrum, Then try a ferite ring on the wire from the ESC to the RX. wind your wire through it 4 times at least and place it on the wire near the plug into the RX.

You get two in a bag. If one works a little try two. and if that doesnt work return them and try something else. But the Spectrum DX6 is the answer I believe. And look you get 100 worth of servos maybe and can sell the 60 TX and RX maybe for $50.

P.S anybody wanna buy one ?? Brand new never used. and one used 3 times. I guess I have two pair of TX / RX I won't be using. Either way you will be so happy glitch free. I'll help ya set it up. the heli looks pretty coll with no antenna!

JD

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RE: WALKERA 60 - 4/6/2006 7:03:41 AM   
Argos