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RE: Venus II - 4/11/2007 8:38 PM

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Just learned today---you cannot buy replacement wheel/pants from "Great Planes" (Tower Hobbies)---The Venus 40 Yep, but not the Venus II---FWIW---

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RE: Venus II - 4/13/2007 1:04 AM

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Guys I have a guestion for all of you. I am building another Venus (crashed the last one) and I have a question about the horizontal stab. Me and another gentalmen help build my last one and we did something to the horizontal. Is the horizontal supposed to be a zero degrees with the wing. I need this plane to be very close to perfect as you guys already know. What should I be doing to this horizontal to make this plane fly perfect.

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RE: Venus II - 4/13/2007 11:48 AM

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I built mine completely stock and am 100% satisfied. I have a 2m Typhoon that flies a bit better than the Venus but I believe that is mostly because of the extra weight and retracts. I wouldn't change a thing. What makes you think you MUST mess with the stab ?

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RE: Venus II - 5/27/2007 9:18 PM

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For the supplied spinner, do I need to buy an adaptor if I use OS 120AX??

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RE: Venus II - 5/29/2007 2:15 PM

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no. the one thats in the kit fits. i was told it didn't so now i have an extra.

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RE: Venus II - 5/29/2007 10:35 PM

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Guys I have a guestion for all of you. I am building another Venus (crashed the last one) and I have a question about the horizontal stab. Me and another gentalmen help build my last one and we did something to the horizontal. Is the horizontal supposed to be a zero degrees with the wing. I need this plane to be very close to perfect as you guys already know. What should I be doing to this horizontal to make this plane fly perfect.

Yes, the horizontal supposed to be a zero degrees with the wing.

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RE: Venus II - 6/3/2007 2:00 PM

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A friend of mine has his Venus 2 set up for pattern. He has an OS 120 AX up front. To get the CG to his liking for pattern, his battery pack is located more than halfway back on the tail. He has all servos in back and still had to add 1.5 oz of lead to the tail. It flies extremely well. How are you guys coming out with your CGs? I notice that the 120 AX muffler is about 9 ounces with the adapter. A bit on the heavy side. I am working on mine and would like to avoid moving the pack back that far and adding lead and would at least like to keep the rudder servo up front. Thanks.

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RE: Venus II - 6/3/2007 2:09 PM

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A friend of mine has his Venus 2 set up for pattern. He has an OS 120 AX up front. To get the CG to his liking for pattern, his battery pack is located more than halfway back on the tail. He has all servos in back and still had to add 1.5 oz of lead to the tail. It flies extremely well. How are you guys coming out with your CGs? I notice that the 120 AX muffler is about 9 ounces with the adapter. A bit on the heavy side. I am working on mine and would like to avoid moving the pack back that far and adding lead and would at least like to keep the rudder servo up front. Thanks.

Similar situation, a friend of mine also has a Venus II with OS 120AX. He had the servos in the tail and was still nose heavy. All he did was slide the engine all the way to the rear on the mount beams and solved most of his CG problem. Shortened the nose a little because he had to move the cowl back to match but we can't tell any difference in the way the plane flies vs another with the engine further out on the beams.

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RE: Venus II - 6/3/2007 2:28 PM

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I have an OS 120 FS in mine and it is nose heavy. I just put my battery as far back as I could without surgurey but it would still require moving it right to the tail or adding about 3 ozs. to the tail. I tried it a bit nose heavy, liked it that way and never bothered to change anything.

If I was starting all over again I would have used a YS 110 ( lighter ) and moved the fuel tank to the CG. Maybe the next one

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RE: Venus II - 6/4/2007 1:29 AM

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Thanks for the replies. I was thinking of moving the engine back as far as possible, but didn't have it sitting here to see how it would work. I am also thinking of a lighter muffler than the stock OS. I think it weighs 9 ounces total. I am a little surprised that GP put out a plane this size and assumed that a 61 2-stroke would fly it, and hence the resulting nose-heavy issues.

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RE: Venus II - 6/4/2007 3:07 AM

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As I said it is not overly nose heavy even with the 120 4 - stroke which is a fairley heavy engine. I COULD balance mine with only 3 ozs. in the tail. I don't consider this overly nose heavy. Besides it flies just fine the way it is.

Besides if you went with the single upfront servos and put a GOOD .61 in it I think it would fly just fine. You could bring it in under 8 lbs. with the .61 - not too shabby.

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RE: Venus II - 6/4/2007 10:30 AM

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A strong .61 will fly it, but not with gusto, that's for sure. This model seems to be made for a 1.20-ish 4- stroke (the YS 1.10 is a beast), and I have found the OS 1.20 4.stroke perfect for mine. With the stock muffler mine weighs in at 8 lb 10 oz, which includes 2 oz of lead on the tail. It can do a vertical snap and keep on tractorng up, though probably not with as much vigor as the 1.20 AX. You can slide the 1.20 AX pretty far back on the rails, especially if you move the needle valve to the firewall, but that would likely cause some muffler mounting problems, whether stock muffler or aftermarket. The most elegant solution I have seen is Don M's, with the inverted 1.20 FS, OS inside header pipe, flex tube and muffler set-up. Minimal cowl hacking. Mine is in the 45-deg canted position with the stock muffler centered in the fuse cut-out. Another option would be to mount it inverted with the stock muffler just sticking out the lower left side of the cowl. Not nearly as hideous looking as those large 2-stroke mufflers, and the sound of a 4-stroke is just hard to beat.

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Thanks for the replies. I was thinking of moving the engine back as far as possible, but didn't have it sitting here to see how it would work. I am also thinking of a lighter muffler than the stock OS. I think it weighs 9 ounces total. I am a little surprised that GP put out a plane this size and assumed that a 61 2-stroke would fly it, and hence the resulting nose-heavy issues.

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RE: Venus II - 6/4/2007 8:32 PM

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Hey guys I was just wondering what angle do I need to mount a Y.S 110. Will inverted work? I haven't ordered the engine yet but will in a few days.

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RE: Venus II - 6/4/2007 8:46 PM

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I saw a Venus II at the Jetero (Houston) pattern meet this past weekend and I
don't see how you could find a better flying airplane for that amount of money.
Great flier. On Sunday we had a fairly strong breeze directly across the runway
and the Venus handled it very well.

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RE: Venus II - 6/4/2007 8:51 PM

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Yea i saw the Venus II fly at the Jetero meet this past weekend also. I dont know what engine system he was using but on his 2nd flight on saterday the engine dead sticked. Other than that it was awesome to see. I can't wait to get mine in the air now

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RE: Venus II - 6/4/2007 9:25 PM

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Chris
I'm pretty sure it was a Saito but I'm not sure what size it was, maybe a 1.00 or 1.25 four stroke.

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RE: Venus II - 6/4/2007 9:37 PM

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A strong .61 will fly it, but not with gusto, that's for sure. This model seems to be made for a 1.20-ish 4- stroke (the YS 1.10 is a beast), and I have found the OS 1.20 4.stroke perfect for mine. With the stock muffler mine weighs in at 8 lb 10 oz, which includes 2 oz of lead on the tail. It can do a vertical snap and keep on tractorng up, though probably not with as much vigor as the 1.20 AX. You can slide the 1.20 AX pretty far back on the rails, especially if you move the needle valve to the firewall, but that would likely cause some muffler mounting problems, whether stock muffler or aftermarket. The most elegant solution I have seen is Don M's, with the inverted 1.20 FS, OS inside header pipe, flex tube and muffler set-up. Minimal cowl hacking. Mine is in the 45-deg canted position with the stock muffler centered in the fuse cut-out. Another option would be to mount it inverted with the stock muffler just sticking out the lower left side of the cowl. Not nearly as hideous looking as those large 2-stroke mufflers, and the sound of a 4-stroke is just hard to beat.

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Thanks for the replies. I was thinking of moving the engine back as far as possible, but didn't have it sitting here to see how it would work. I am also thinking of a lighter muffler than the stock OS. I think it weighs 9 ounces total. I am a little surprised that GP put out a plane this size and assumed that a 61 2-stroke would fly it, and hence the resulting nose-heavy issues.

Has anyone flown a Venus 2 with an os91FX, If so how is the vertical

Zio

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RE: Venus II - 6/4/2007 11:24 PM

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Hey guys I was just wondering what angle do I need to mount a Y.S 110. Will inverted work? I haven't ordered the engine yet but will in a few days.

I have my OS mounted inverted and it doesn't have a pump so the 1.10 will work just fine. I would move the tank back to the CG. This is the engine I wish I had used. The OS is fine but the YS would be lighter, more power and I would have the tank on the CG.

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RE: Venus II - 6/5/2007 12:30 AM

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Great. thanks Don M

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RE: Venus II - 6/5/2007 1:06 AM

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That was Russell Small's plane. It has a YS 1.10 in it.

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RE: Venus II - 6/5/2007 1:08 AM

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I have the OS 91FX in mine. Only flown with a 15 X 8 so far. It will not maintain verticle forever, but should be able to handle the lower classes fine.

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RE: Venus II - 6/5/2007 1:31 AM

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Thanks Russell Bear,

Ic was thinking of using a 14 x 7 prop with the 91FX, would that be under proped ?

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RE: Venus II - 6/5/2007 1:41 AM

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Not sure, I'm flying tomorrow. Trying a 14 X 10 and a 14 X 8. I'll let ya know the tach readings and how it performs. FYI, the 15 X 8 is comfortable at 8100 rpm's.

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RE: Venus II - 6/5/2007 1:49 AM

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Guy's,
I was the one flying the Venus at Jetero this past weekend. My set-up is YS 110 with tank on the CG. All thrust angles and CG are set per the instructions. Total weight is 8lb. 6 oz...I love this airplane and the only thing holding it back is me. That was just my second contest. The reason for the dead stick? I used the throttle trim to kill the engine after the previous flight and forgot to reset it for idle. So on my next flight, when I throttled down for a stall turn, it killed the engine. It was a stupid mistake that I will never make again for sure....Russell Bear, it was nice meeting you and I enjoyed our visit......RS

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RE: Venus II - 6/5/2007 2:03 AM

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Same here. Sorry bout leaving so quick, the ankle biters were eyeballing the playground.

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