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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 6/13/2003 9:23:54 PM   
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Don,
The July RC Reports hasn't made it to Seattle yet...


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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 6/14/2003 12:51:28 AM   
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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 6/14/2003 5:25:56 PM   
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You have just got to love this place.

I too fell in love with the Long EZ, and darn near popped out the old card to order one. After a lifetime in retail, I can smell when something isn't quite right and decided to hold my cards. It must have been that all the pictures on the website were computer generated.

Glad I did.

I find it odd that "fuscoaircraft" can drop in to 'explain' his billing problem, but, from the research I have done, can not offer a valid date as when orders will be shipped.

I agree with what Allen said in post 162. There are going to be some upset people around here.

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 6/14/2003 9:08:46 PM   
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Mr. Fusco, you've commented on the ad SNAFU, but what do you have to add about the box of junk you sold to Mr. Milt Peacock?

(For those of you that haven't read the July issue of R/C Report yet, Mr. Peacock's experience with Fusco is the lead-in to Gordon Banks (R/C report) remarks)

Here's an old axiom for you to consider Mr. Fusco: "Honesty is the best policy". It's priceless, and may have helped you remain in business. Start telling the truth!

The word is spreading Mr. Fusco and I think you are getting what you deserve.

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 6/14/2003 9:16:28 PM   
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Just a thought has anyone that has money or credit-cards to them checked with the The Better Business Bureau of Northern Nevada at http://www.renobbb.org/index_2.html to see what comments they have.

Fusco Aircraft or Berkut is not listed as a member.... just a thought.


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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 6/15/2003 12:44:38 AM   
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Thanks for the PM Val'a. I appreciate the comments you made to me. I could tell that they were from the heart. I apologize for schooling you on honesty...you are obviously a grown man and don't need me to tell you how to act. I am very sorry to have questioned your integrity. I'm sure many others disagreed with my comments to you as well and to them, I apologize too.

Since I love the Long EZ aircraft (flew a real one once), I look forward to seeing them in the skies and wish that someone,...anyone with a positive Fusco experience make a post telling of it. That would give me confidence to place an order.

A potential customer, Yak

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Honesty !!! - 6/15/2003 2:13:21 AM   
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Yak

I also spoke to VAL several times in the past few month.


I talked to him nicely and explained how be can easze every one's concerns by posting a few pictures of planes in production and give an honest appraisal where they are in the production cycle.

I had a constructive converstation with val tonight He will be sending me some i.e Fiberglass Canopyies so that I can start working on the frame. I'll post some pictures

As stated in a previous post, my model would problably sit around in the box a few months until I had the time.

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Re: Interesting Mother's Day! - 6/15/2003 3:40:06 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TX-Deck
* Val'a stated that the majority of the 1/3 Berkut's that have currently shipped, are probably not owned by someone who has a presence here on RCU.

* Another fact he mentioned is out of over 200 1/5 Long-Ez kits already shipped, he has heard back from only 5 or 6 owners, and most of that feedback was for technical questions, actually very few return requests.
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200 ONE FIFTH scale...... for the record.

I spoke again with Val'a earlier this week, and the latest update I have is that there remain only 6 or 7 1/3 Berkuts left to complete. My serial is #183, but since I placed the last order, production on that unit has been moved to the last in line.

My impression is when I assumed that serial number, it had already been bypassed and he was working to complete the succeeding units. I didn't ask him specifically about when it would ship, but I think they are going to complete the last batch, then call the truck to come pick them up. Speculation on my part, I could very well be mistaken. He did ask me to give him another call around the end of the week, next week, to check on the progress.

Still patiently waiting, and working on the 1/5 Long-Ez,
TX-Deck

P.S. Don't shoot the messenger.

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The slander continues... - 6/15/2003 7:16:54 AM   
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A 2-part message from Mike James, designer of the 1/3rd scale Berkut-Long EZ from Fusco Aircraft:

First, to the vast majority of Fusco customers, who have been patient with us on the Berkut-Long EZ project:

We can't thank you enough for your understanding, and you are certainly our favorite customers. The Berkut-Long EZ is an unconventional aircraft, both in real life, and as a modeling project. More details about the "issues" associated with this project will be brought to light, as you receive your kits, read the manual, view the online articles that will be published on the Fusco web site, etc.. The result of our having solved these problems is that you now have a very nice looking and flying model.

From a design point of view, several issues surfaced after we had announced the shipping date, and although they slowed us down, we have successfully solved all of them, resulting in a great looking, great flying model. From a manufacturing point of view, there were a series of bizarre problems that had nothing to do with us... from thunderstorms causing power outages and burning up a vacuum-forming machine, to contractors failing to produce custom parts on time, and even shipping problems, which has caused us to change freight companies three times during the process. We are learning more each day about ways to improve every aspect of the business, we continue on, solving each issue one at a time, and are delivering kits as promised. We hope that you'll report on the kits as you receive them, and we know you'll have a great time flying them. They're good looking, impressively big, and they fly great. Our favorite customers are those of you who are in direct contact with the company, and you are the ONLY ones who really know what is going on. Complaining on RCU, fabricating lies, making unsound accusations and implications are all the product of what I can only describe as feeble minds. It's kind of like ordering something from Sears, and then complaining to Chevrolet about it. The truth, and those answers, will not be found on RCU or anywhere else except Fusco Aircraft.
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Now, to the folks who are promoting all the negativity here:

You are not only "barking up the wrong tree", but you are wrong. I will also add that most of you who are attempting to do damage here are cowards. We know that there are several of you who will call Fusco Aircraft and/or one of the distributors and ask polite questions, seem understanding, etc., and then come here, thinking that you're anonymous, and post the garbage we've all read. Not even ONE of you has called Val'a Fusco and spoken to him the way you speak here. Is it your belief that this behavior will get you better service? Try posting a lie-filled list of accusations about one of your hometown companies in the local paper. Then go to that company, tell them who you are, and see what kind of reception you get. The important issue is that you're wrong, but my point specifically is that it's also immature, pretty dumb, and it helps absolutely no one. Some of you are portraying yourselves as "warning prospective buyers", and that's the most foul lie of all. You're simply spreading misinformation. Maybe this is the same syndrome as "road rage", where people think they're invincible behind the wheel. Do you think that posting this crap on RCU or elsewhere somehow makes you "unknown" to us? And, why would you do it anyway?

Val'a Fusco wants to deliver only the best to customers, including images. The original plan was for him to personally create a "show stopper" version of the kit, and post those photos first. Due to the delays and problems that go with that, he hasn't had the time. We began to see that images of the actual aircraft flying were important, even if it wasn't the "show stopper" finish we'd prefer. So...

We've shown photos of the plug and mold-making process. We've showed still photos of the aircraft. We've showed movies of one of the prototype aircraft in flight, (some shot in 25 mph winds!) and we're about to publish an extensive background article on the model. We're making and delivering kits. Still, the absurd behavior of a few truly ignorant individuals persists. One individual states that since the video was "obviously shot in Alaska", (where I currently live) that it somehow means something negative. (I kept the prototype and sent Val'a the plugs and molds.) Hey, I have over 1500 hours in the design and building of it... Am I not allowed to fly it or shoot video of it? Val'a even had one absurd call recently, accusing him of faking the movies of the model flying, by somehow altering video of a 1/5th scale Long EZ. I suppose that if you believe that aliens built the pyramids, this fits with your thinking, but really folks, wake up. Everything in life is not a conspiracy.

An example...
In the past few months, Val'a Fusco has sold and delivered over 200 of the smaller 1/5th scale Long EZ kits. I have yet to see even one post on RCU about that. So, are you shocked beyond belief that no one has yet reported on the large kit? It's dumb, plain and simple.

Another one...
NO ONE has "waited since December" for delivery. The earliest announced delivery date was mid February, so those who word their posts that way are inflating the late delivery by 2 1/2 months.

Another one...
A few people have noticed that Fusco Aircraft is incorporated in Reno, Nevada. It's true, and has never been a secret. Val'a is currently located in Tennessee, and there are distributors located around the country. So?

Another one...
There's a lot of conjecture about the serial numbers on your certificates. These numbers are for Val'a's internal reference on both inventory and supply, and have nothing to do with how many kits have been manufactured, or the order in which the kits are shipped. So, all references to that in the above posts are simply invented by people here on RCU, and have no basis in reality. The same is true for ANY "inside" information about the company. Those of you posting that stuff have no idea what you're talking about, and are inventing it all.

There is one problem with us, and one problem only. For a variety of non-evil reasons, we've experienced problems that have caused us shipping delays on this kit. If those of you who are still waiting can bear with a new company's growing pains, you'll be rewarded with a whole new series of really nice models, made in the USA, and sold at reasonable prices. You risk NOTHING, since you can get a refund if you prefer. If you choose instead to spread vicious lies, make false accusations, insult our integrity, and generally attempt to damage the company, then you're not a "customer"... You're "the enemy". Why would we, or any other company react otherwise?

Here's a little science experiment you can try...
Go down to your local hobby shop, and hang out there in the aisles, telling other customers (within earshot of the owner) that "their fuel is no good", "their engines are fakes...copies from Japan", "they don't really have kits in those boxes... They're all empty", etc.. Then, walk up to the owner and demand prompt and courteous service, and see what happens. When you get out of the hospital, you can report your findings here on RCU, in the "Crash" forum.


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Need glasses? - 6/15/2003 8:17:44 AM   
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Tailwinds,

If you read back through this very thread, you'll find that the "mid-January" date was an error, which only persisted on the Fusco web site for a day or two.

How do I know? Because I am personally the one who called Val'a and alerted him to it, and it was immediately changed.

I "dare to post" here because I know what I'm talking about, and you, once again, do not.


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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 6/15/2003 4:37:31 PM   
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Val'a and Mike, Please accept my apology for the negative statements I have made here.
It does need to stop and I will make that move.

This issue has persisted much too long and we all must move on. I have attempted to cease posting about this issue before but failed in that first attempt. I will succeed this time.

Do accept my sincere apology and trust that I do look forward to your success in the desire to put unique craft on our airfields.

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 6/16/2003 1:02:43 AM   
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[QUOTE]Val'a and Mike, Please accept my apology for the negative statements I have made here.
It does need to stop and I will make that move.

This issue has persisted much too long and we all must move on. I have attempted to cease posting about this issue before but failed in that first attempt. I will succeed this time.

Do accept my sincere apology and trust that I do look forward to your success in the desire to put unique craft on our airfields.[/QUOTE]


Well done...

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 6/16/2003 6:36:49 AM   
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Gentlemen, several posts ago I posted a information regarding a reference on this company in RC Report. I have not ordered from this company and have no interest in this issue one way or the other, I was merely passing on the citation so those concerned were aware of the information in the magazine.

I then received the following in my PM:

Dear Sir,

Apparently you are clueless to this subject and the advertisement in rc report was unethical. If you are uncertain and have reasonable doubt how can you make such a comment here on rcuniverse.com that "apparently they are having trouble paying their bills" I think not and we are growing stronger each and every day! Never under estimate an Italian Family nor the power that comes behind us!

In the next year maybe you can make a comment that apparently you were wrong for making your post that we are having financial trouble!

If you believe everything you read then I have to tell you that you have allot to learn about life. I am posting this to you because I believe that your posting was just as negative as the advertisement on rc report's magazine! Do you feel you have the right to post a comment here on the internet that other wise face to face would you come to me at an air field and tell me this, I doubt it seriously!

Popoli come voi sono il motivo che il mondo è il senso è oggi! Il vostro commento era ingiusto ed eravate errati per rilasciare questa dichiarazione!

Thank you,
Val'a Fusco

Grazie,
Val'a Fusco
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If anyone could translate the Italian phrase for me I would appreciate it!


I did not say they were in financial trouble, I simply gave a reference to a print article. I certainly hope Mr. Fusco gets everything straightened out with those concerned.

As for me, I "may be clueless to this subject", but, I will not be doing business with a company that would send me something that, frankly, seems somewhat threatening (Never under estimate an Italian Family nor the power that comes behind us! ).

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 6/16/2003 7:11:35 AM   
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Well darn! Just when I was beginning to get a warm and fuzzy feeling with all this apologizing going on, Mr. Fusco comes on like Tony Soprano.....this is going way past ridiculous...I'm going to do my best not to post here again until the original question is finally answered.....out...

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