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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 12/6/2002 12:32:59 AM   
Edgar Perez



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I was looking for an ARF that is different from the usual stuff and found the [URL=http://www.fuscoaircraft.com/giant01.html]Fusco 1/3 Long-EZ ARF[/URL]

I was debating the value of this offering ($549 prepaid) when they offered a [URL=http://www.ultimate-rc.com/ez.htm]special deal[/URL] that includes a free 1/5 EZ or 1/4 quickie kit for the price.

I'm not affiliated in any way with this company, but think this is a good deal. What do you guys think?

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 12/6/2002 1:19:32 AM   
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Edgar, I too was curious about the latest ARF offering. It appears that this is new. I've seen the full size Long Eze's fly, but not sure what the flight characteristic would be for the RC version. Who knows....possibly an IMAC sleeper? Respectfully BruceW

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 12/6/2002 1:21:24 AM   
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I already have one on order. Full Berkut styling and the cockpit option.

Can't wait to see it.

Don

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 12/6/2002 5:23:07 AM   
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I'm looking forward to seeing the plane... and hearing reports about it's performance. I had a LongEz in the 80s but I sold it because in-flight characteristics were so-so... plus, I wasn't thrilled by the inverted, pusher prop setup.

ps: I've got a 900 KB flick of a spectacular 360 I did with the LongEz:
http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia/people/jsonin/public_html/mov_planes/80s_longez_360.mov

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 12/6/2002 11:58:26 AM   
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OK, the darn ads just sucked me in like a moth to a flame. Zap! Got one ordered and you can't beat the free kit deal!!!!

Plan on taking this to the IMAA Rally of the Giants at Castle AFB in 2003!!!


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ATTN: Dan - 12/6/2002 6:52:39 PM   
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Hello Dan, I sent you an email to confirm your order but it bounced back.

With your order of your 33% you have the no-charge option of having us include either the standard canopy OR the jet style canopy.

Just zip me an email when you see this, in the meantime I will try to send you another email this afternoon.

Sincerely,
Matt
[email]sales@ultimate-rc.com[/email]

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 12/6/2002 11:10:48 PM   
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I thought about the big one but haven't ordered it yet. I have a full scale that I am building, and Fuscos smaller version of it. The RC version looks and flys very realistic. It is way cool in the air. That plane will sure turn some heads. Flys rock steady like it is on rails, just like the big one.

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 12/7/2002 1:23:40 AM   
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Matt, thanks for the heads up. I just sent you my choice for the jet canopy.

Dan

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Scale comp - 12/7/2002 3:11:16 AM   
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Dan is right ....bring this 33% to an Imaa or scale competition and watch the crouds gather ! Its unique !

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 12/8/2002 2:14:34 AM   
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I also had a very nice conversation with Matt while ordering my Long EZ. As it turned out we have other hobbies in common and the deal offered is just to good to let pass. I can see that big box at the door now! Anticipation......Thanks, Matt...

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 12/8/2002 5:23:35 AM   
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We are working late tonight if anyone wants to call, 1-866-946-4626, its been great talking to you all on the phone ! RC guys are some of the nicest people !
Matt

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 12/8/2002 5:33:55 AM   
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Matt,

Is your company doing the molding for Val'a?

Have they started shipping yet?

I have one on order with all the options via Val'a directly for shipping to California. Hope to have it assembled sometime this summer.

Thanks
Don

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1/3 Long-EZ ARF... Good deal? - 12/8/2002 11:50:23 PM   
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Hi Don,
Actually Fusco is doing there own molds, glassing and vacuum forming in house, which in my opinion, is the only way to maintain the highest standards in quality control.

Delivery time on the 33% should be no longer than 2 mos after the date your order was placed,
Take Care

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1/3 scale Berkut questions... - 12/9/2002 6:55:01 PM   
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Matt,

I'm thinking real serious about getting a 1/3 Scale Berkut from you guys, and was wondering if you could fill in a few blanks?

Recommended engine: Ad says 1.20 or bigger...what is the optimum and what was used on the proto's.

Retracts for 3 gear Berkut: What model retracts and are gear doors scribed into the fuse ready to cut, also are retract mounts already set into the fuse?

Canopy: You have the one piece Long-EZ and Berkut jet canopy right? does the Berkut canopy have the frame painted or is it just molded clear and ready to mount.

Cockpit insert: Is one included? If not, how much is the option without the Italian leather?

Wings and Winglets: Are ready to fly and covered in Ultracote right? Just mount servos and linkages?

Is there a downloadable copy of the instruction manual available?

Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions...I want one, but want to know how much more I'm going to have to invest in it to get it to the Berkut that I want.

Jon


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Fusco Aircraft 1/3rd scale Berkut-Long EZ - 12/9/2002 9:19:39 PM   
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Hi everybody!

Your answers are below, but bare with me for a moment while I share something with you that I'm really excited about...

I'm thrilled to be working full-time as the designer with Fusco Aircraft (Val'a Fusco) and I promise you it's going to be exciting for all of us! Fusco Aircraft is determined to stick with the philosophy of "Dare to be different", and provide giant size, precision scale, great-flying kits that you've never seen before. (not "more P-51s and Extras" This year's new catalog will include the 33% Berkut, a 1/6th scale King Air B200, a 1/6th scale Piaggio "Avanti" P180, and a slick new trainer with slotted flaps and aerobatic capability. All of these projects are well under way, with the documentation and CAD work done, and the plugs under way. Later, there will be even more surprises, all equally unique. For me, that approach is what makes it a "dream job", rather than a drag. Future kits will be ARCs, ("almost ARFs" rather than ARFs. I promise you that this is a positive step for modelers and for Fusco Aircraft, and here's why... $$$

First, in general... I think you all know that (because he's just that nice of a guy - really) the introductory offer of an ARF of this quality at this price is a nothing short of extraordinary. Look around for comparable offerings, and you'll find that they're in the $2000 range. (!) Val'a took a huge leap of faith to launch the new kit line, and thanks to the RC community's overwhelming support and response, you can rest assured that we will follow through with a much broader and creative plan.

We want to keep the prices down! Look at what Byron used to do, or what Bob Violett and Yellow Aircraft do today, and you'll see what we're aiming at. It's our promise... New and unique kits, High quality, Precision-engineered, Reasonable prices. We do the research, build the CAD models, create the plugs, create the molds, create the parts, test the models ourselves, and provide the service.... All in the USA. When you receive a kit from us, it will have only the amount of work remaining that allows for "builder options", and we know this is important. We all have our preferences on radios, hardware, engines, etc.. Typical kits will include molded composite fuselages, cowlings, etc., clear molded parts for canopies/windows, and depending on the particular design, foam cores or molded wings. Any wood required for sheeting will be included, other internal wood parts will be laser-cut, and every kit will include more quality hardware than you're used to getting.

The issue of the Berkut, in particular, is that since it's a homebuilt, and they vary wildly in paint schemes and options, many of you have requested them not covered or painted... either so you can document and reproduce an actual aircraft for competition, or simply so you can create your own design. That makes sense. Another Berkut-specific issue is that the huge engine compartment can accommodate a wide variety of engines from 1.2 up to medium-size gas, and it's performance can vary just as widely. It can be built for scale-like performance with the smaller engines, or you can use whatever you want to cram in there, and fly it like a Reno racer. (A Berkut won the silver class race in 1999 with a speed of 261.7 mph, while stock Long EZs were flying at 160 or so.) It's a very slippery plane, and continues to accelerate for a longer period of time than more draggy planes. For the same reason, it takes a while to decelerate, and we're providing the Berkut speedbrake option. (Recommended, but not required)

To help you shop for engines:
The firewall is 14 inches wide, 10 inches tall, and the engine compartment itself (depending on how users mount their engines) can be as long as 11 inches from firewall to spinner backplate. (Some modelers will want to build an "extension" onto the firewall, to allow smaller engines.) Keep watching the Fusco web site for updates, as testing continues, and we know more about which gas engines work best. We're testing several glow sizes first. (The scale prop size, if you go that route, is 22 inches!) Typical spinner diameter (can vary, as on real aircraft) is 4".


Landing Gear:
The Berkut retract angles are a little odd, and we're working with the geometry to fit both Robart and Spring Air types with 75-degree retraction cycles. We'll have some specific model numbers for you to look at within a week, or sooner. You get two things, in regard to the gear doors... All doors are scribed into the fuselage, for use as a guideline to cut them out, but all the doors (including the speedbrake panel and landing light panel) are also molded separately and supplied in the kit. That means that when you cut out those doors, you simply Dremel the opening to the right size, then use your "fresh" door in that spot. They're molded from the same plugs, so the fit will be perfect.

Canopy:
The