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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 1/31/2008 4:20:55 PM   
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Well after thinking about it, I believe I have built some wash in or out in the wing.
I guess I will start over. Thanks for all the great input.
After I took the wing off the board it just didn't look right.

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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 1/31/2008 4:45:21 PM   
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One more option:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXK258&P=7

When using these it's helpful to tape a few sections of hacksaw blade together (the thickness of the ribs) and saw notches in your LE and TE. It helps to keep the ribs aligned and square.

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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 2/1/2008 2:28:21 PM   
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Well I started over this time using a tapered jig to keep the ribs centerline parallel to the building board. I am much happier with the results.

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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 2/1/2008 2:37:57 PM   
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Glad to hear that. It's worth the extra work in the long run. I don't think any computer radio can trim out wash-in in one wing panel and wash-out in the other. The good thing is now you'll never build a twisted wing again. FWIW, I learned all this the exact same way as you.

David

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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 2/8/2008 8:02:56 PM   
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I bought a new spray gun. The $10 Harbor Freight gun was fine while I was learning to spray, but it wasted tons of material and just didn't lay down a uniform pattern. What do you expect from a $10 Chines knock-off?

Anyway, I spent some time at some of the auto refinishing forums and found out about a $75 HVLP mini-gun that has an excellent reputation. No, it's not a $300 SATA, but from everything I read it comes very close. It's made by Astro Pneumatic and it's model #4020. The best thing about it is that it's designed to operate at 4CFM or less. That's about what my small Craftsman compressor puts out at 30psi. Another nice thing is that, being an HVLP gun, most of the material ends up on the surface you're painting, not in the air as with conventional guns. That's because the nozzle pressure is only 10psi (inlet psi is set to around 40). It can spray a 4 1/2" fan which is plenty large enough for sixty-size models. I can't wait to try it out.

I also found out the hard way that it was the red lacquer auto putty that was causing my dope adhesion problems. So, I brushed a very thin coat of finishing resin over the wing fillets and the putty. I'll scuff it with some 320 and the dope should start sticking. Once I get the fuse re-painted I can start with the clear coating. The new gun should make that go pretty fast. The old Harbor Freight gun had about a 2" fan and it took forever to do a wing. But, that's ok. I'm learning as I go.

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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 2/8/2008 11:28:00 PM   
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Okay, so where can we find these Astro Pneumatic paint guns?

George
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I bought a new spray gun. The $10 Harbor Freight gun was fine while I was learning to spray, but it wasted tons of material and just didn't lay down a uniform pattern. What do you expect from a $10 Chines knock-off?

Anyway, I spent some time at some of the auto refinishing forums and found out about a $75 HVLP mini-gun that has an excellent reputation. No, it's not a $300 SATA, but from everything I read it comes very close. It's made by Astro Pneumatic and it's model #4020. The best thing about it is that it's designed to operate at 4CFM or less. That's about what my small Craftsman compressor puts out at 30psi. Another nice thing is that, being an HVLP gun, most of the material ends up on the surface you're painting, not in the air as with conventional guns. That's because the nozzle pressure is only 10psi (inlet psi is set to around 40). It can spray a 4 1/2" fan which is plenty large enough for sixty-size models. I can't wait to try it out.

I also found out the hard way that it was the red lacquer auto putty that was causing my dope adhesion problems. So, I brushed a very thin coat of finishing resin over the wing fillets and the putty. I'll scuff it with some 320 and the dope should start sticking. Once I get the fuse re-painted I can start with the clear coating. The new gun should make that go pretty fast. The old Harbor Freight gun had about a 2" fan and it took forever to do a wing. But, that's ok. I'm learning as I go.

David


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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 2/9/2008 9:04:15 PM   
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Found it here.

http://search.cartserver.com/search/search.cgi?cartid=a-6834&category=datapaint&maxhits=20&keywords=4020-1

http://www.spraygunworld.com/products/Astro/Astro%20Pneumatic%20-%20AP4020-10-12.html

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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 2/10/2008 12:07:04 AM   
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Thanks!

I was hoping Rainedave might have had a NC source. Good old internet ordering will have to do it appears.

George

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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 2/10/2008 12:21:09 AM   
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Hi George, there was an auto supply eBay Store that was selling them for $75 which is where I got mine. But, they are not selling them now. Spray Gun World is a good place.

I used mine today. WOW!!! I can't believe what I was missing by using that cheapo HF gun. It's simply a night and day difference. My 1.5hp Craftsman compressor was more than adequate. The dope was going on smooth and even. I had it set for about a 3 1/5" fan; the job goes so much faster now. I am totally happy with this gun.

David

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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 2/10/2008 12:25:33 AM   
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Thanks David!!

Once again knowledge is shared and lessons learned.

George

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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 2/10/2008 6:47:53 PM   
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So how about giving us the address of the guy on e-bay. He may have them posted in the future and we can get one then. Also, how about some more pictures of the new paint job so we can see how it is coming out.
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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 2/10/2008 7:25:29 PM   
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Here you go Ed. It was about $9 less than any other place I found.

http://stores.ebay.com/Autobody-Supply-Express

I'll post some photos later today.

David

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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 2/10/2008 7:48:29 PM   
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I decided to try out the gun on another project first to get the feel of it and learn the adjustments. I'm trying to finish up the prototype build for the new Midwest Tri-Squire kit from Early R/C Models.

Anyway, the Astro 4020 lays the dope down so smooth I can't believe it. I have complete control over the width of the fan and the amount of paint being sprayed. I know that for folks who have always used quality guns this is to be expected. I could have saved so much time and dope if I had purchased a decent gun to begin with.

Here are some photos of the little Tri-Squire I just finished painting a while ago. The wing and stab are covered with red Esaki silk.

David

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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 2/10/2008 8:39:03 PM   
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Dave I think your wife is going to kill you if you stain that table cover

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RE: Bridi UFO Build (all wood) - 2/10/2008 11:07:47 PM   
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