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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/19/2007 2:36:02 PM

denis1

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thanks a lot!

OK

First thing that I can do and that I see as a good step forward towards having my HB fine tunned for the next flight, is to very carefully level those two small paddles on the main rotor - so that when servos are on and leveled, those paddles are leveled as well - as with no pitch. I will use some piece of paper to measure this angle as precise I as can. That was the advice that I've got...

So, one more question from my side (please sorry for asking so many questons, it's all very new to me)...

To adjust the angle of those two paddles preciselly, I should rotate their axe obviously (as both paddles are fixed to that axe)...
But to do that, I should probably unscrew something to free this axe for fine rotation and adjusting.
Can yu tell how should I do that?

thx

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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/19/2007 4:48:53 PM

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Does this HBFP come with an AC charger? http://www.hobby-lobby.com/honeybee3.htm

Or just a DC? Where the cheapest LIPO charger that will work for this?

Thanks

-Lance

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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/20/2007 7:38:54 AM

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Does this HBFP come with an AC charger? http://www.hobby-lobby.com/honeybee3.htm

Or just a DC? Where the cheapest LIPO charger that will work for this?

Thanks

-Lance

it's a DC charger, but it can hook to a 12v lead acid battery. Chances are you have one around somewhere. If not you can buy an a/c adaptor just about anywhere. I believe it's center pin positive 1.5A @11 to 15v

www.heli-fever.com sells the adaptor for 4 bucks and the charger for 10

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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/20/2007 8:57:18 PM

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Hi all, does anyone know how to replace the flybar without breaking it. I have a direct replacement from ESKY and have already broke one trying to get it throught the rotor head without damaging it. I dont want to make the same mistake twice. If anybody has some advice, it would be appreciated.

**serverslayer**

btw, i am a noob, but i plan on learning, thanks!

Loosen the hex screws that hold the flybar in place and it will slide right in and out. They are under the paddle contol frame. Use the hex wrench that came with the heli.

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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/21/2007 4:19:17 AM

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what other brand of heli has compatible parts with the hbfp? i would like some aluminum head set for mine. thanks

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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/22/2007 1:31:15 AM

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One question - for all of you who have HB FP...

I have successfully adjusted my flybar, so that now both of the small paddles seem to be well leveled... thus when servos are on and leveled - flybar paddles have no pitch.

But one thing now seems to be confusing...

Namely - left, right, fwd or backwd control will move the swash plate perfectly and preciselly in all 4 directions.
But at the same time - what's strange for me (as a newbie!), as looking on how main rotor (while spinning) is tilting accordingly - it seems that it's not tilted perfectly forward for instance. It is tilted forward but there's also a very small portion of tilting left at the same time. So, it just seems to me that full forward with force the heli to go forward but at the same time tilting it very slightly left. The same with other 3 directions - they don't seem perfectly 'clear'.

Hmmm... maybe it's the matter of some advanced calibrating? Anyone of you had the same thing with HB FP? Any advice on how to calibrate that?

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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/22/2007 7:39:59 PM

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It sounds like you are observing the main rotor spinning while the heli is being held or attached to the table. In which case what you see is normal. I'm not sure if this is due to gyroscopic precession or not but when the heli is unconstrained the main rotor disk will follow the swash plate movement.

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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/23/2007 12:56:39 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: denis1

One question - for all of you who have HB FP...

I have successfully adjusted my flybar, so that now both of the small paddles seem to be well leveled... thus when servos are on and leveled - flybar paddles have no pitch.

But one thing now seems to be confusing...

Namely - left, right, fwd or backwd control will move the swash plate perfectly and preciselly in all 4 directions.
But at the same time - what's strange for me (as a newbie!), as looking on how main rotor (while spinning) is tilting accordingly - it seems that it's not tilted perfectly forward for instance. It is tilted forward but there's also a very small portion of tilting left at the same time. So, it just seems to me that full forward with force the heli to go forward but at the same time tilting it very slightly left. The same with other 3 directions - they don't seem perfectly 'clear'.

Hmmm... maybe it's the matter of some advanced calibrating? Anyone of you had the same thing with HB FP? Any advice on how to calibrate that?

yeah, I agree, it definately could be gyroscopic procession, but needless to say, it's working correctly, and you wont have a problem with it once it is in the air.

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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/25/2007 12:13:42 PM

denis1

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Yet another thing is strange to me... I know it's not a bug, it's just like it's made to be...

Namely, we all know that transmitter needs to be on whenever heli is powered on, because otherwise - there's a danger!!
Because, if heli is on and transmitter is eventually off - '4 in 1' will go wild - instantly increasing the trottle probably to maximum! Why is it so???

I mean, what happens if transmitter dies somewhen all of the sudden (or when battery is weak)... That could happen as with all other electronic devices - so what happens then?

Why isn't it so that '4 in 1' automatically shuts off trottle to zero, when there's no proper radio signal?

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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/25/2007 12:37:11 PM

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it's called cheap electronics =P Usually it wont go to full throttle every time, and when it does, it will usually only do that for 3 or 4 seconds. More expensive stuff has "failsafe" programs in them so you can tell each servo where to go, and tell the throttle where to go in the event the Rx looses signal =)

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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/25/2007 2:51:23 PM

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I have one here that when you turn off the TX the only thing that works is the servo for the tail rotor blades*AS LONG AS IT'S NOT IN THE 3 D MODE*

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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/25/2007 3:05:28 PM

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You need to Make 1/2 to one full turn on the linkage rod.
Then plug in the battery, make sure the TX all the slider switches are all centered.
I WEIGH EACH PADDLE AND i MEASURE EACH ONE ON A GLASS TOP TABLE.
Strive for perfection.
Measure the distance between the paddle sleeve and where it is tightened down at the rotor head

Namely - left, right, fwd or backwd control will move the swash plate perfectly and preciselly in all 4 directions.
But at the same time - what's strange for me (as a newbie!), as looking on how main rotor (while spinning) is tilting accordingly - it seems that it's not tilted perfectly forward for instance. It is tilted forward but there's also a very small portion of tilting left at the same time. So, it just seems to me that full forward with force the heli to go forward but at the same time tilting it very slightly left. The same with other 3 directions - they don't seem perfectly 'clear'.

Hmmm... maybe it's the matter of some advanced calibrating? Anyone of you had the same thing with HB FP? Any advice on how to calibrate that?
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yeah, I agree, it definately could be gyroscopic procession, but needless to say, it's working correctly, and you wont have a problem with it once it is in the air.
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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/25/2007 10:21:08 PM

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Hi, I just baught my HBFP a moment ago from XHELI.com, I am very very very new to this hobby, any word of wisdom for me? so i dont get too many crashes and all? any website with tutorial videos? Thanks in advance

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RE: Esky Honeybee FP Thread - 6/25/2007 11:01:49 PM

denis1

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Whirley Bird

...
Strive for perfection.
Measure the distance between the paddle sleeve and where it is tightened down at the rotor head
...

That's really perfection!

Most likely I'll be having the same approach when I get more familiar with my new HBFP...
thanks!

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