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RE: McCoy engines - 8/7/2006 10:16:02 PM   
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I flew a McCoy 35 redhead in Old Time Stunt (on a Sterling Yak-9) for a couple of years and was quite pleased with it. I've flown the redhead 19's for several years and think they are perhaps a better engine than the 35. I got rid of all my McCoy 35's because Fox 35's do as well or better and one can get parts. I still have the 19's. I've flown the Series 21 40's some and was not well impressed with them, although they have their advocates.

So far as the age of the Fox stunt 35. I think it has evolved a little, but is basically the same engine as back when it had two backplate bolts and 4 head bolts. So I would call it the longest in continuous production US engine.

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RE: McCoy engines - 8/7/2006 11:39:22 PM   
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The current Fox .35 Stunt is legal for SAM Foxacoy and is substantially the same as the original 3-screw backplate versions. The most noticable difference is the provision for muffler mounting, and a "50th Anniversary" logo on the bypass. I've seen several different needle valve assemblies and thrust washers and maybe a different head or two, but don't believe the internals have changed. I haven't heard that any particular version has a performance advantage, either.

I haven't worn one out yet, but they seem to take forever to wear IN

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RE: McCoy engines - 8/8/2006 3:22:02 PM   
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Actually most e ngines from that time frame had steel fined cylinders. The Johnson, K&B, Anderson, OK, etc all had stell cylinders

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RE: McCoy engines - 8/10/2006 8:52:08 PM   
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There was a standard joke about Testors/McCoy engines in the 60's. If you ever got one started, you just wore it out. They had very soft piston and cylinders and wore out quickly. That's why they only cost $5.95 for a 35 when a Johnson ran about $18 to $25 and a Super Tigre was $17. Even a Fox 36X was $14.95. A K&B Torpedo was $18. The K&B Torpedo 45 R/C was $27.95.

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RE: McCoy engines - 8/10/2006 9:13:57 PM   
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Actually, not. The Series 21 was made in the early 70's, those were made in the 50's. But I get your gist. Still most of those engines had thin walled sleeves and fins, the 21 McCoy had thick fins, not sure about the sleeve itself.

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RE: McCoy engines - 8/11/2006 1:48:01 AM   
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I didn't say anything about the Type 21. They came out in 1971 and were the worst of the bunch. The straw that broke the camel's back as they say. They came out in 1971 and disappeared shortly thereafter. They were the engine that put McCoy out of business for good. One of the engine guys, George Aldrich, even called them Junk in a column. They had the same one piece cylinder which was zinc plated. The aluminum piston has a single Dykes ring. They wore even faster then the old red and blue heads. I have a box of them in the basement. Again, none of them had sleeves. They all had one piece steel cylinders with integral fines. All made from one piece. Just like Johnson, K&B, OK and several other engines of the day.

The old redhead/Testors came out in 1957. They were around in some form or another until 1970 as headheads, blue heads and with and without lightning bolts. The parts were all interchangable and all were worth exactly what you paid for them. $4.95 for the 19 and $5.95 for the 29/35. The prices did go up during their run but compared to the other engines of the day they were DIRT cheap. If you didn't know better or couldn't afford better, you bought a McCoy. This excludes the old Duromatic 60 which was THE class "C" speed engine until the late 60's when it was overtaken by Dooling and some of the later screamers.

The first Testors had the plug centered and had no bosses on the venturi. After that, in 58, the plug was offset and the venturi had bosses where the spray bar went through. Other than the lightening bolt, color changes, and R/C carbs on the blue ones, they were the same engines.

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RE: McCoy engines - 9/15/2006 4:47:54 PM   
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Hobbsy,

I noticed in the picture of your engine stuff that there is a K & B needle valve assembly. I would like to buy it if it is for sale. Do you have, or know where I might find some vintage parts such as gaskets, needle valve assemblies, etc. for McCoy & Veco/K & B?

Thanks,

Richard

PS: I also am looking for a prop drive washer for a Veco .29 u/c.

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RE: McCoy engines - 9/15/2006 5:03:59 PM   
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http://www.mecoa.com/kb/48/48-parts.htm Part # 9255 towards bottom of page. On the 61 page it is listed as 99-9255.

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RE: McCoy engines - 9/15/2006 9:49:41 PM   
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w8ye,

Thanks for the reply. If the needle valve assembly is for a .61, don't you think it might be a bit much for an old .29 u/c?

Thanks,

Richard

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RE: McCoy engines - 9/15/2006 10:02:38 PM   
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OS now uses the same remote needle assembly for the LA40 up through the 91FX

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RE: McCoy engines - 9/15/2006 10:09:35 PM   
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K&B also uses the same remote needle valve assembly on all their engines from the smallest to the largest.

The K&B NVA is also higher quality than the Oriental Scrap part. The K&B not only has an o-ring to seal the needle itself, the seal is adjustable for wear. Never need the fuel tubing on the outside that seems to be an automatic addition to the OS needles.

Bill.


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RE: McCoy engines - 9/15/2006 11:59:14 PM   
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And we continue to bad mouth OS engines.

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RE: McCoy engines - 9/16/2006 12:07:09 AM   
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We will stop when OS quality is back to where it was 40 years ago.

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RE: McCoy engines - 9/16/2006 12:16:57 AM   
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It is. We??? Do you have a mouse in your pocket??

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