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Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Questions - 3/13/2006 2:40:42 AM   
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I purchased a used V1 a year or so a go, mostly as a learning heli. It’s been great, but it’s pretty old and beat up, thus I was thinking of going to a V2.

How pre-built does the ARF come? I was thinking about something where I just installed the radio gear, perhaps put some larger parts together.

Should I get the motor they bundle in with the Raptor, or something different? Looks like you can purchase them with, or without an engine.

Who has the best price and support on the V2?

Also, where can I buy those very cool canopy with the Raptor face? Bling…

Thanks.
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RE: Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Ques... - 3/13/2006 10:21:34 AM   
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shame you dont live in uk as i can supply all the raptors...

the v2 is a better heli for sure but i flew both v1 and v2 and think if your staying standard then you will perhaps notice only a small improvement in its flying but saying that some of the improvements were also to give it more reliability like for instance its clutch but there is other improvements too...

if i were you though i wouldnt bother with another 30 because you already own one so i would perhaps get a few upgrades for the 30 but definitely buy a v2 50 or 60 raptor instead of another 30..

the tt engines are acturly now much better then when the 1st raptor came out...i had a tt 36 in my raptor v1 and this was a terrible engine..but i still have a v2 raptor 30 with the newer 39 tt engine and i am so much happier wth this engine. it definitely has more power then the os 32 but ive yet to compare it with an os 37..
the os though properly is a friendlier engine for a beginner but if you have some experience with heli engines then id say a tt engine is fine..if you were to choose a 50 then i would still recommend an os 50 but i dont think there is much in it ..

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RE: Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Ques... - 3/13/2006 2:07:19 PM   
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http://www.heliproz.com has combo deals on Raptors.

Stay away from the ARFs, you never know if the guy putting it together at 2am, that doesn't fly helis, used locktite on something important, if you have some experience with a 30 you can put a 50 or a 30 v2 kit together in a weekend and you will know its done right.

Stick with the OS engines.

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RE: Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Ques... - 3/13/2006 2:29:30 PM   
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What are the main differences between the ARFs and the Kits?


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http://www.heliproz.com has combo deals on Raptors.

Stay away from the ARFs, you never know if the guy putting it together at 2am, that doesn't fly helis, used locktite on something important, if you have some experience with a 30 you can put a 50 or a 30 v2 kit together in a weekend and you will know its done right.

Stick with the OS engines.


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RE: Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Ques... - 3/13/2006 2:49:54 PM   
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The ARF has the head, swash, tail and frames assembled, you put the blades on, plug in the boom, bolt on the skids and install the radio gear.

In a kit you get a bag of parts. Read Raptor Technique, it details the build job. I can put one together in a day. It really pays to assemble it yourself, you know its done right and you know how to fix it when you tear it up. I ended up with a couple arfs to build for people, I strip them down to the frames and start over, you would be surprised what isn't up to my standards for building.

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RE: Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Ques... - 3/13/2006 3:03:14 PM   
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Yep. I built my Trex from a bag of parts, it's was good to understand how everything fit together. Thanks.

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The ARF has the head, swash, tail and frames assembled, you put the blades on, plug in the boom, bolt on the skids and install the radio gear.

In a kit you get a bag of parts. Read Raptor Technique, it details the build job. I can put one together in a day. It really pays to assemble it yourself, you know its done right and you know how to fix it when you tear it up. I ended up with a couple arfs to build for people, I strip them down to the frames and start over, you would be surprised what isn't up to my standards for building.


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RE: Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Ques... - 3/13/2006 3:18:36 PM   
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The Raptor is alot easier to build than a Rex. You can actually find the screws when you drop them for one thing.

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RE: Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Ques... - 3/13/2006 5:55:53 PM   
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yes go with the kit version as the artf can have faults..they are a doddle to put together too ive done a few for my self and other pilots.each time it was a breeze

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RE: Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Quest... - 3/13/2006 6:16:51 PM   
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I purchase the Raptor 30V.2 ARF, this was my first heli. I have always purchased ARF's for my planes as well. I always look things over to make sure no obvious mistakes are present. I agree a heli is much more complicated than a plane, but for me flying time is hard to come by so building would be even harder. I just wanted to be in the air as soon a possible. By the time you get your radio set up and read this forum and Raptortechniques you will have a very good understanding of the bird. Just my .02.

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RE: Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Quest... - 3/13/2006 6:30:04 PM   
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Did you go with the TT motor, or the OS 37 (looks like the 37, just want to be sure). Did you purchase the engine seperate, or as part of a bundle? Also, from whom?

Thanks!

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I purchase the Raptor 30V.2 ARF, this was my first heli. I have always purchased ARF's for my planes as well. I always look things over to make sure no obvious mistakes are present. I agree a heli is much more complicated than a plane, but for me flying time is hard to come by so building would be even harder. I just wanted to be in the air as soon a possible. By the time you get your radio set up and read this forum and Raptortechniques you will have a very good understanding of the bird. Just my .02.

Raptor 30v.2
OS 37
Futaba 9Cap

About 2 gallons burned and lovin it....


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RE: Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Quest... - 3/13/2006 7:11:51 PM   
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I got the raptor 30 V2 ARF and I love it. The engine is very good ( many people don’t like the TT39 ) because a lot of them don’t work as good as others. All you have to assemble is the tail boom, that is what I remember, Its simple just slide it in and your ready, and you gotta put all of your electronics in there of course

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RE: Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Quest... - 3/13/2006 7:15:23 PM   
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I think I may go that way, considering time and skill level. Who did you purchase your Raptor ARF from? Is the engine installed when you get it?

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I got the raptor 30 V2 ARF and I love it. The engine is very good ( many people don’t like the TT39 ) because a lot of them don’t work as good as others. All you have to assemble is the tail boom, that is what I remember, Its simple just slide it in and your ready, and you gotta put all of your electronics in there of course


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RE: Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Ques... - 3/13/2006 8:15:19 PM   
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I got the raptor 30 V2 ARF and I love it. The engine is very good ( many people don’t like the TT39 ) because a lot of them don’t work as good as others



im with you there mate. others recommend os engines only but they often havnt had much experience with the new improved tt engines or they run the engines to week and kill the bearings and then they blame the engine. admit idly the 1st generation of tt engines ( heli or plane engine ) were in need of a lot to be desired but i have os and tt still but find the os and tt perform as reliably as each other..

mind you the best ever engine i had ( and i stupidly sold with my other heli was an irvine 39... they were just unbeatable in power and reliability..i would even choose it over the os 37

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RE: Considering the Raptor 30 V2 ARF…Just a Few Quest... - 3/13/2006 8:44:15 PM   
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