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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 4/16/2006 4:05:13 AM   
RaceCity



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Status: offline 		FlyNBHappy....you seem to offer the notion that there may be some variability with Bakers AA. Running "several batches"with no rust ???

I've run the stuff consistently for almost 30yrs and haven't seen a problem, so use it with abandon! It's an old, tried-N-true product. It's good stuff.

FWIW...I've run BeNol as well in some other engines and find it to run well, albeit nowhere near as clean as Bakers. For the price, BeNol ought to be sensational, but it seems no better than Bakers, and Bakers costs less, PLUS it runs cleaner in my experience.

Go figure.

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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 4/16/2006 5:46:49 PM   
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Thanks for an answer about BeNol that I can actually use.

Francis

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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 4/16/2006 9:33:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, My. What a rousing discourse. I wrote R/C Report and they had the guts to print my letter in this issue. After reading our Aussie fiends comments about Brian Winch, I was right to begin with, some castor is good, no castor is bad.

I too sensed the hype in Brian Winch's writings, none of that in Clarence Lee's writings. BTW Clarence Lee has designed and manufactured engines, I rather think he qualifies as an engineer. Don't know squat about Brian Winch except what I have read. What I have read makes me wonder.

I hope Gordon Banks reconsiders him. Probably has a contract and is stuck for a while. To good of a report to continue with a questionable contributor.

Cheers,

Chip

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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 4/17/2006 2:52:34 AM   
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My intention was not to degrade Bakers AA castor, but to state what I've been using all these years (never used Benol....quite expensive as you stated). Mainly I run 20% castor/syn lube, but once in a while I'll mix a batch of 20% all castor. That was what I meant to say.

As far as cleanliness, my Baker's is still very messy. I don't think there is a "clean" castor oil.

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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 4/17/2006 3:26:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is castor oil's job to go through your engine, lubricating all the way, and emerge out the exhaust unchanged except for carrying off some heat. So it gets on your airplane and does its best to hang on when you try to remove it.

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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 4/17/2006 8:40:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I run R/C dragsters and use castor only in my engines. We do some crazy things to our engines. Like using 55 and 60% nitro and very little oil 3% or less. Synthetic just doesn't hold up to this madness The runs only last a couple of seconds for a very slow one 1.6 seconds for a competitive run 1:10 track which is 132 ft long. I've used Klotz and Castrol castor in my motorcycles and Castrol in my cars for ever with no problems in any of them. I think the problem when you get a lot of carbon from castor is overheating the engine. That formula in a previous post tells you why. If you get the heat and pressure up enough to break those bonds all you have left is carbon. That is the only time I see any deposits in mine. I tear down my engine completly after every race clean it out with B12 Chemtool and let it dry before reassembing it using a little castor. I started doing this because I noticed if I didn't the crank wouldn't turn as freely. I attribute this to the castor left in the engine starting to gum up. One guy at our track runs no oil in his top fuel engine during the actual competition. He runs 3% for the practice and switches to none during the rounds. Certain brands of nitro have a little lubricant in them for blowers. If you use that you don't need oil in our sport. That engine ran for over a year won the biggest event last year and finally gave up a bearing a couple of weeks ago after a run-away. Castor only in that engine. I don't think the synthetics would hold up. Castor might be sticky gummy goo compared to synthetic but it protects and sticks to parts better than synthetic in my opinion.

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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 4/28/2006 7:15:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Chip, in which issue of RCR was your letter printed?? Never mind, I found it, the May issue. Love Winch's answer. There is no synthetic used today that has a higher flash point than Castor oil like he says. Castor burns and leaves and ash hard enough to scratch chrome???? Oh, puleeze. It leaves CARBON and the only carbon that hard is Diamond. Maybe we have little diamond makers mounted on out airplanes. Hey we can all be rich. I'd sure like to see that ash. I could use it for a grinding compound with my lathe.

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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 5/20/2006 7:38:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will not run an engine unless the fuel contains at least 5% castor in the lubrication mix.

As far as Winch is concerned, his column is entertaining in a manner that makes me believe he was bitten by a rabid Dingo and it has affected his cerebal functions!

Phil

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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 5/26/2006 12:11:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I use castor as lubricant as I have a number of older engines.

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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 5/30/2006 3:52:16 AM   
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You have "older engines" BECAUSE you run castor. See my point?

Keep that old iron going....



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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 6/1/2006 2:23:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		can anyone actually send a link to the article, i am really skeptical about this


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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 6/1/2006 5:28:49 AM   
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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 6/2/2006 5:05:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		skeptical about that brian winch guy flaming on castor oil and truly getting 44 gallons outta his engine


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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 6/2/2006 6:44:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am skeptical that he actually kept track of the fuel he used.

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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 6/2/2006 11:16:02 PM   
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RE: Article about Castor Oil in R/C Report - 6/3/2006 2:20:44 AM   
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