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RE: WACO YMF - 6/21/2012 7:04 PM   
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F4 came out easier than expected, I used a jigsaw and cut on all the glue lines. I just need to cut another firewall as the one I cut doesn't fit all that well. I will cut off the back of the fuel tank box and install the fuel tank from the front, Im not going to cut any of the formers to be able to remove it from the rear as I think it can wait untill I need to remove the tank.

thanks for all the advise

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/21/2012 7:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Miltac, looks like a sucessful surgery to me. Nice job.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/21/2012 11:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		thought i'd better make a progress report,i decided to clear the decks so i can give this all of my attention and can't wait to get started.but in the mean time things are starting to come together i think i have found a laser 150 four stroke which should fit in the cowl with very minor adjustment crank centre to rocker cover is only 3 7/8 so should be good to go.also i have been given a robbo cutter that a friend could not get used to so can now cut my own vinyl. ok time for more reading i feel like johnny five "input input input"

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/22/2012 3:17 AM   
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Okay, Here is the roster to date.

WACO BROTHERHOOD MEMBERSHIP:

#1 stickbuilder
#2 Hughes500
#3 Jim Henley
#4 mmattockx
#5 CTflyboy
#6 michaelj2k
#7 Ronj10
#8 gwulle
#9 jim schroer
#10 Skinny Bob
#11 Doug
#12 Pimmnz
#13 HarryJ
No. 14 Old Git
#15 ChrisMH
#16 Nerevar
#17 Ricatic
#18 Clay H.
#19 Tripp2Loo
#20 KHodges
#21 Bill Hogue (WACO One)
#22 Mangolo (Waldo)
#23 av8ter
#24 yel914 (Rick)
#25 damifino
#26 skylarkmk1
#27 Jacque
#28 Edwin
#29 AROPLANE
#30 WacoNut (Anthony)
#31 BQuartucy (Bob Q)
#32 AERORON
#33 funkymusic
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#35 obo (Bob)
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#43 Bill Deidrich
#44 Mike Barbee
#45 mrdhud (Dan Hudson)
#46 SoCalSal
#47 Todd (NightStalker)
#48 argon (Bob Gonzalez)
#49 mango 12 (Scott)
#50 skyjet 1
#51 ZIG
#52 Didg
#53 MarvinE255 (DOC)
#54 Joe Norris (Full Scale WACO Pilot)
#55 vasek
#56 SuperCub Man (Jim)
#57 Black Drape (Ron)
#58 aminiet (Angel Minet)
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#74 Mr Lucky (Ben Warner)
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#159 TJDNC (Thomas Dugan)
#160 Gunner3 (Bob Faetsch)
#161 fishinchickens (Neil Abbot)
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#192 Bkyrdflyer (Jeff R)
#193 althepal88
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#195 kim seyler
#196 ceije
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#198 lablover
#199 ZebraOne

#200 GEORGE QUINN (posthumous Brother)

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#202 wreck-em-rich (Richard)
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#206 Jason Mansfield
#207 Ken Mansfield
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#209 rccrasher65 George

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#225 dadrivet
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S-4 LadyMango (Lynda)
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/22/2012 3:34 AM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/22/2012 4:44 AM   
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No comments on the Cessna???????

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I thought the nose looked too long.......... Didn't the cowl stop just slightly ahead of the windshield?

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/22/2012 5:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK Bill,

Some comments,

Glad you made it back safely, get some rest.

As Dash said, the nose IS too long (looks like the section between the cockpit and cowl has been extended).

The same section is too small in diameter

The cowl may also be too long and or too large in diameter.

Otherwise it looks pretty good.

P1 - Picture of N 9854A taken from a similar angle (it has similar colors)
P2 - Side view of N 9854A (emphasizes the long tail/short nose)

So - more importantly, How is Dick doing?

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/22/2012 1:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it is an angle issue with the photo. I'll post one from a different perspective. Can't load photos right now. Kahn, I'll text some to you.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/22/2012 7:37 PM   
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I don’t know if the nose is to long or short I just think it looks good. Look forward seeing it fly in Florida.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/23/2012 1:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Okay, here are a few more with a different angle on the bow (nose).

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/23/2012 2:17 AM   
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That is one nice Cessna!

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/23/2012 3:19 AM   
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Okay, here are a few more with a different angle on the bow (nose).

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Bill,

It does look much "mo better" from this angle. If anything , comparing it to the full size plane shown above, the cowl my look a little small.  Probably the angle again. 

See you have a three banger in it. Who's kit or ARF is this?  How large?  I always like the 195, but I knew someone who was killed in one when a wing failed in heavy weather!  Maybe a strut whould have helped them?

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/23/2012 3:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not a kit or Arf. Built by Dick Watz from Wendell Hostleter plans. Quarter scale. It is a very large airplane. A wing failure in heavy weather would suggest some serious G load. This cantilever wing was very very strong. Maybe some big negative G numbers...

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/23/2012 4:42 AM   
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Not a kit or Arf. Built by Dick Watz from Wendell Hostleter plans. Quarter scale. It is a very large airplane. A wing failure in heavy weather would suggest some serious G load. This cantilever wing was very very strong. Maybe some big negative G numbers...

Bill, Waco Brother #1


I think the accident report indicated they were in a thunderstorm when the accident occured.  Been there, done that!  Not fun.  My radar controller said no thundestorms observed, and about that time all hell broke loose.  Before we came out the other side, I had oil covering the left wing of the Baron I was flying.  That was early in my career. I made  a point to avoid them at all costs.  I was already aware of the 195 crash.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/23/2012 5:48 AM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/23/2012 5:49 AM   
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Dick did a very nice job on the 195. Enjoy it. Here are a few more pics from the full size. These shots show the nose to be correct and not distorted by the angle of the camera.

P1 - N 9854A
P2 - N 9833A (it was under it's annual inspection and I was able to use the ladder for this over the nose shot.
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/25/2012 7:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's coming along better than expected,

recessing the firewall an inch worked out perfect for keeping the length the same. I installed a 12 oz tank from the front, I cut out the back of the fuel tank box but I am going to wait on making the mods needed to remove the tank until a need arises or I find the time.

I still need to check the CG, fix the covering around the cowl, and get a proper prop before I send it skywards.


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RE: WACO YMF - 6/25/2012 9:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Brothers, I just happened to miss place my revised version ( short with all the mods) of the manual for the 1/5 scale Waco. Moy site not working. Does anybody have the new site. I would like to have a copy. Thanks George

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/25/2012 9:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi folks,

I'm just getting ready to split my wheel pants as recommended to reduce the width as recommended.  The photo shows a 1/4 inch reduction in width if the blue tape section is removed, or a 3/8 inch reduction if I remove the section to the outside lines.  The current width as received is 2 3/4 inches. The pants as shown on the plan is 2 1/8 inches wide.

Bill, would you like to post your comments on this? 

Thanks,

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/25/2012 9:58 PM   
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If you want to send me your email I have a PDF of the manual that I would be happy to send you. My email is c.kerrigan at sympatico.ca (replace the at with an @).

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/26/2012 4:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Chris, yea if you can, my email is rccrasher65@yahoo.com  Thanks George    I must be loosing my mind lately, I have lost quite a few things with my model's  lately. Or my wife was correct in saying that my hanger is getting too big and disorganized. I don't want to admit  it but she's right. It might be time to clean the shop.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/26/2012 6:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Took mine to the Propsnappers club of Portland, Maine open house this past Sunday along with my kit built Great Planes Super Skybolt. It was quite blustery all day so I didn't try to fly it, but it got a lot attention on the flight line. There were many dissappointed people but I felt it was better not to risk landing or taking off when the winds were so strong and would constantly change direction.

Here is a video link showing some of the actvity. I'm not not in any of it other than on the flight line. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gdg7VaNVU8

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/27/2012 3:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Removing 1/4 inch will allow your Skylite wheels to fit and the outer wheel pant support as well.

We just got moved into our new home in Florida. I now have a shop with about 4000 sq ft of building space, plus 20 acres to fly in. Color me very happy

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/27/2012 8:01 PM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/27/2012 9:24 PM   
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Removing 1/4 inch will allow your Skylite wheels to fit and the outer wheel pant support as well.

We just got moved into our new home in Florida. I now have a shop with about 4000 sq ft of building space, plus 20 acres to fly in. Color me very happy

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