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RE: WACO YMF - 11/29/2012 3:43 AM   
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Windshield Frame Installment 3

This is the current status of my second frame.  At this time, I'm pretty happy with the results, but who knows. The third time is the charm, so they say.  I may do another one before I finish the project.




I think it looks great! don't touch it, I will be doing/using the same method on my SRE windshield


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RE: WACO YMF - 11/29/2012 6:49 AM   
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The pictures of the full size windshields looks like the were taken of N32158, a UPF owned by John Gerth. Note the height difference between the shorter front windshield and taller rear windshield. The 2 UMF/YMFs (NC 14031 and NC 14081) I am familiar with both have round windshields of different designs up front.

P1 - UPF 32158
P2 - UPF 32158 Closer view
P3 - Y/UMF NC 14031 front (1934 Waco) Plain Pexi-glass
P4 - YMF NC 14081 (1987 Waco Classic) Foldable and Removable
P5 - YMF NC 14081 (1987 Waco Classic) Foldable and Removable

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RE: WACO YMF - 11/30/2012 11:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello all you Waco fans. I have been hanging around this site getting some great scale tips. I am building a 1/5 scale Pica Waco and have just finished the covering using Solartex. I went for the 26CC conversion and it looks great on the small standoffs I made. I have no idea what the finished weight will be as I am painting it bright yellow with black trim. I am a bit concerned about the incidences. When I check it out, I get zero, zero and zero on the wings and tail. I can always change the wings to positive incidences but I have had bi-planes in the past that flew well with everything at zero. Has anyone out there flown this model with a zero setup on wings and horizontal stab?

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RE: WACO YMF - 11/30/2012 11:24 PM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 12/1/2012 10:41 AM   
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Hello all you Waco fans. I have been hanging around this site getting some great scale tips. I am building a 1/5 scale Pica Waco and have just finished the covering using Solartex. I went for the 26CC conversion and it looks great on the small standoffs I made. I have no idea what the finished weight will be as I am painting it bright yellow with black trim. I am a bit concerned about the incidences. When I check it out, I get zero, zero and zero on the wings and tail. I can always change the wings to positive incidences but I have had bi-planes in the past that flew well with everything at zero. Has anyone out there flown this model with a zero setup on wings and horizontal stab?

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Karl,

You can easily fly the model with zero and zero on the wings. You will probably find it just a tad difficult on landing. I normally set the bottom wing at zero and the top wing at -1degree, or one degree negative.

As to the horizontal stabilizer; you probably won't like it at zero. You will use up more that your available trim to make the model fly correctly. Most of those who successfully fly this model end up somewhere around 2.5 degrees of positive incidence (the leading edge of the horizontal stab is higher than the trailing edge). I have gone so far as to make one adjustable in flight, and Dan has a ground adjustable stab. Hate to ask you to do this, but you would be better off to remove the stab and reset it before you advance further.

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RE: WACO YMF - 12/1/2012 8:09 PM   
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My work has made ​​some progress ... I need to make a couple of forms, and I will continue to work with the fuselage.

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RE: WACO YMF - 12/2/2012 2:16 PM   
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Really nice work you are doing. I can't wait to see the finished project.
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RE: WACO YMF - 12/3/2012 10:34 PM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 12/3/2012 11:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmm.....no progress on mine yet as still in the box! Kit is in queue behind a few others so will be some time. Am reading every post though Bill! Cheers.

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RE: WACO YMF - 12/3/2012 11:51 PM   
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I have to spend a little time doing some TLC on the old Morgan sports car, haven't had it long....only had it 44 yrs. I have to get it ready for the car club's boxing day run.....BRRRRR! Top down, of course!!

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RE: WACO YMF - 12/3/2012 11:52 PM   
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MIne is coming along pretty well.  This afternoon I primed all of the metal parts or would be metal parts. The ailerons, cowl, wheel pants, windshield frame, and forward parts of the fuselage, which is covered with Koverall. I hope that was not a mistake.   Quick question....  Would there be part of the pinked tape (a half of it maybe) showing at the edge of the aluminum skins on the top and front of the fuselage? 

I have the hinges fitted to the ailerons. I'm using the full length piano hinges. They should work very freely with the smaller diameter brass wire as the hinge pin. I'll post some photos later. I am planning to use the small 1/16" angles from plastistruct to make the corrogations on the ailerons. This will be a **** of a job. Does anyone have any hints on how to keep them propperly spaces at 0.42 inches on center, and parallel, without getting adhesive (what would you recommend?) all over everything.  I'm holding off on that job.

More later.

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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 1:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		While I'm at it, here is another question: Would anyone have any photos of a YMF-5 painted in a cream and Maroon or Burgandy scheme. Possibly with scolloped trim on the wings and tail. Or something completely different from the typical WACO trim scheme?  I'm just looking for something different from the red and black  and definitely not yellow. 

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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 1:57 AM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 2:04 AM   
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FYI I took delivery of my Barth1/4 Waco yesterday. Very nice kit from what I could tell with a quick glance through the box. Thin but well detailed fiberglass sections and a very nice tail wheel assy.

My Evolution 70 radial fits perfectly inside the cowl..

Joe you might consider making a slotted jig of say three spaces. Something from thin plywood or card stock. The slots would be aligned with a straight edge etc. Just glue down three at a time and work your way along the surface.

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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 2:30 AM   
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Well by the time sum of us get here we forget what we came for so we just set back and enjoy the ride Health put mine on the back burner
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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 2:49 AM   
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I have another 1/5th scale just waiting for me to get going on it,but have to finish the present project.





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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 3:59 AM   
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They are out there, just not easy to find. The first 39 YMFs produced by Waco Classic Aircraft have ths same structure as the original YMFs, the difference is the main landing gear is shorter by 3" and the tail has been raised 3". After S/N F5 0040, the fuselage is longer by 6" and wider by 4". You might want to contact Waco Classic Aircraft for photos of their YMFs.

The white and light Blue YMF is Robbin Williams NC 14081, a 1987 Waco Classic Aircraft. I do have around 200 pictures of it on CD for sale. NC 14031 (P5) the Dark Blue and Cream Y/UMF, the subject of Pica's kit and Paul Matts drawings, the owner has a CD of pictures of it for sale. PM or e-mail for more info on those 2.

The National Waco Club has many photos of the original YMFs (mostly B & W) with various colour schemes.

P4-The colors are Blue (Navy?) and white. The colors are listed in the Old Colors chart (NC 14032)

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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 4:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well not to be lazy and not build my 1/5 scale, but space doesn't allow for it to happen. Although I am considering buying a GP ARF Waco, but I want to put a gas engine in it and I am trying to decide what engine to buy for it!! any suggestions? I am kind of considering a Zenoah 26cc unless somebody knows a better engine thats not to overwhelming in price something under $400.00 would be nice. Thanks in advance

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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 5:06 AM   
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Work on the Waco’s been kind of slow lately trying to put the finishing touches on another project seems like I just can’t do one thing at a time. Is it just me or does any one else have the same problem?

I do have a question I have a cub just covered with cub yellow solortex. I run the engine on it for the first time today (DLE 30) the oil from the from the muffler stained the covering and wont wash off. I can only assume you have to put some kind of clear coat over the covering. Any recommendations on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 5:29 AM   
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Thanks for the photos. I had seen all of them esxcept 14377, the second one which is red and white or cream. In any case it would look good with cream trim. I don't remember seeing any other photos that showed the N-Strut fairings. Pretty neat, but could be difficult to replicate without a lot of time. 

In any case, I like that scheme.

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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 6:02 AM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 6:03 AM   
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Bill, I have been a little busy lately what with the passing of my Mum then the death of one of my mates Dad, then the passing of my Dads sister,all in the one month. Packed up and went on a good holiday and now just back from a fishing trip with the boys.
Will get back to finishing the Waco shortly.
A couple of pics to show where I'am up to.

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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 6:13 AM   
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NX 14377 was at the American Waco Club annual Fly In that was held back in June and I had an opportunity to take a few pictures that are not commonly found on the internet.

I have about 55 +/- pictures of NX 14377 which is a 1935 UMF-5 replica hand built by John Hudec over 12 years and completed in March of 2004. It is currently owned by Don Grundstrom and Dean Maupin of Davenport Iowa.

The colors are Red and Cream, has inset ailerons, brass colored windscreen frames, Polished Brass on Burl instrument panels, Tan Leather seats and combing, Gold pin striping around the Cream accents and some other custom touches.

The lady in P3 does not come with it.

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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 9:30 AM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 12/4/2012 9:42 AM   
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