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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 12:03 AM   
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As close as I can measure it is 5/8 inch

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 12:24 AM   
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Thanks Bill, does this come with a secret hand shake?

Yeah, but if I show it to you, I'll have to confiscate all your planes.

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 12:43 AM   
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John, very good photos.

Surely someone out there knows what the spacing of the SIG corrugated sheet is.


I do, I used it on my UMF ailerons, works very well, although the spacing is not exact scale for 1/5, it is close.

The prices are about a year old, but:

SIGRPCP404A--sheets are 5-1/8" x 12", thickness is 0.010", rib spacing is 15/32". These sheets aren't long enough to get a complete aileron on the 1/5 scale without piecing it, but the rib spacing is closest of the three to 1/5 to scale, and is almost dead nuts exact for 1/4 scale. These are $1.99/sheet. If carefully cut, you could piece them, but you'd need two sheets each for top and bottom of each aileron in 1/4 scale, as they aren't wide enough to do both surfaces out of one sheet, or long enough either.

SIGRPCP2571--sheets are 8" x 17", thickness is 0.010", rib spacing is 21/32", the price is $2.59/sheet. This is the size I used for my ailerons. I think the scale # of ribs is 33 or 34 per aileron, this sheet will give you 21 ribs/aileron on the 1/5 scale, and the sheet is wide enough and long enough to do top and bottom of one aileron per sheet in 1/5 scale, don't think so in 1/4, though.

SIGRPCP2572--sheets are 6-1/2" x 13-1/2", thickness is 0.010", rib spacing is 23/32", price is $1.99/sheet. Very close to the one above.

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 12:45 AM   
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khodges, we were posting at the same time and I didn't see your information until I had posted, therefore, that is the reason that I edited this post. That is exactly the info that I needed.

Bill, I've decided that I don't need to see the secret hand shake. Thanks anyway.


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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 1:29 AM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 1:34 AM   
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Jim,

Three shots of ailerons, the Turquoise Blue from the YKS (bottom side), Light Blue from UPF-7, NC 173E (top) and the grey from UBF-2, NC 12002 (top). The rivet pattern is mostly on the inboard area of the aileron and in the 16th space from the tip rib (grey aileron). Khodges is correct, 34 ribs (or corrugations) and 35 spaces per aileron. Also note the different locations of the mounting plate for the aileron connection struts.

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 1:45 AM   
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I just finished ordering 4 sheets of: SIGRPCP2571--sheets are 8" x 17", thickness is 0.010", rib spacing is 21/32", the price is $2.59/sheet plus $8.99 for shipping.

I can cover both sides of the aileron with one sheet. This will give at least 25 ribs per aileron on 1/4 scale. Not scale I know but khodges looks good.

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 3:07 AM   
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Bill, I've decided that I don't need to see the secret hand shake. Thanks anyway.




B.B., you don't know where his hand's been, be careful

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 4:43 AM   
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Bill, I've decided that I don't need to see the secret hand shake. Thanks anyway.




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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 1:48 PM   
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Bill, I've decided that I don't need to see the secret hand shake. Thanks anyway.




B.B., you don't know where his hand's been, be careful

The very idear, I'll have you to know that I washed that hand (actually both of them) last week. Of course, you Officers were taught to wash your hands after you go to the bathroom, while Master Chiefs know not to use the bathroom on your hands.

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 6:46 PM   
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Bill, I've decided that I don't need to see the secret hand shake. Thanks anyway.




B.B., you don't know where his hand's been, be careful

The very idear, I'll have you to know that I washed that hand (actually both of them) last week. Of course, you Officers were taught to wash your hands after you go to the bathroom, while Master Chiefs know not to use the bathroom on your hands.

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You guys need to try utilizing the "CRT" (Crew Relief Tube) in the back of a pitching MH-47 Chinook... at night even. Man I used to go through a lot of Nomex flight gloves...

Oh and Lt. - This may be a dumb question (I know... you'd expect such from an ARMY Doggie), but what would be so difficult about making the aelerons out of sheet balsa and square stock to resemble the plastic ones. You said they are not quite 1/5th scale, so why not make wood ones that are 1/5th scale? Sounds like something even I could do Unless it's a weight thing.

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 7:22 PM   
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Todd,

I did a set using 1/16" square stock (sanded to shape) and it looked good. It did, however, seem to take forever to make them.

They were fairly light, but there are materials out there that lend themselves to the process in a much easier manner.

If you guys would fly your Hooks at a more reasonable altitude, you wouldn't have had that problem.

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 7:40 PM   
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Todd,

I did a set using 1/16" square stock (sanded to shape) and it looked good. It did, however, seem to take forever to make them.

They were fairly light, but there are materials out there that lend themselves to the process in a much easier manner.

If you guys would fly your Hooks at a more reasonable altitude, you wouldn't have had that problem.

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Well, your soybean field was looking a little dry, so we were just helping you out with a little aerial irrigation . What's so unreasonable about 10 feet AGL at 150 knots? Unless you REALLY gotta go #2

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 9:03 PM   
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hi this is brotherhood 67 just got my kit from e-bay all the wood looks pretty good but no plans were sent in the kit, got your updated manual , sent an e-mail to the shipper , but who knows I guess I got taken , so were do I get a set of plans , my shop is waiting for this build to start can't wait to get started thanks , oh by the way b&b has a mount for the fuji 23 that lets you not cut out the back of the firwall I think you need 71/4" to prop nut from the back.

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 9:11 PM   
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I have been given a 1/5 pica kit to dispose of. I was debating about duplicating the drawings before I do that. If you would pay the cost of extra copies I would order more then one
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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 9:23 PM   
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Trying to spot if the YMF Classic has a strobe on the belly that I can't see in this shot. Too lazy to drive to the airport and with todays weather, he probably wouldn't be home anyway! It looks like landing lights and wing tip lights only! Is this correct?

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 9:35 PM   
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Charlie,

You can order the plans from the AMA plans service, or let TR run a set for you.. If you opt for the copied sed, check the measurments for square, since some copy machines can and will skew the drawings.


Super Cub Man,

It depends on the plane. You can specify lighting for the application with the Classic. I would think that all newer planes would have the strobe package. Check with Mike Barbee, since his third scale Genesis is about the best detailed one that I have seen. Doesn't mean that there is not one nicer, but I haven't seen it. Mike is a Brother, so he should be happy to give you the info.

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 11:15 PM   
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............. to use the bathroom ................



How long you been out of the Navy, Bill? You've stopped using NavySpeak, anyway. I thought the proper phrase for an old salt was "make a head call"

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 11:21 PM   
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............. to use the bathroom ................



How long you been out of the Navy, Bill? You've stopped using NavySpeak, anyway. I thought the proper phrase for an old salt was "make a head call"

I've been out 19 years 1 month and 23 days. I would have used the term, "Head", but would have needed to retrain the rest of you. Just wait until I start talking about Charlie Noble, and the Scuttlebutt, and the Geedunk.

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 11:23 PM   
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Trying to spot if the YMF Classic has a strobe on the belly that I can't see in this shot.


Here's a couple of pics showing the belly strobe, plus the antennae, on NC 14081. The best I can tell from the angles, the strobe sits centered just forward of the trailing edge of the lower wing.

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/2/2007 11:48 PM   
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Ken,

On your G-26, did you use 8-32 bolts, or did you open them up to 10-24?

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/3/2007 1:18 AM   
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Supercub man.
Look up from the red flag in your picture.( Strobe Light ) . Got my cox waco today lots of work now....

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/3/2007 1:34 AM   
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Supercub man,
The Waco YMF-5 I modeled was built in 1998 by the Classic Waco Company in Michigan. At that time they did offer a strobe oiption but the owner of N56ED elected not to get it. The strobe is mounted center of lower wing both ways.
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RE: WACO YMF - 10/3/2007 1:36 AM   
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Supercub man.
Look up from the red flag in your picture.( Strobe Light ) . Got my cox waco today lots of work now....

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That means that you should be about ready to join the Brotherhood.

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RE: WACO YMF - 10/3/2007 2:40 AM   
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Supercub man.
Look up from the red flag in your picture.( Strobe Light ) . Got my cox waco today lots of work now....

Tony

Got it!!
Thanks Tony and also Mike. I guess I'll have to crawl right under to see it!

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