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RE: WACO YMF - 6/13/2009 4:39 AM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/13/2009 10:08 AM   
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Does anybody know how Argon is doing?  Long ago he participated in my Flair PT-17 review thread.  Then he built his Team Genesis WACO.  Next I saw  that he won best Bipe at Top Gun.  He hasn't posted since 2007.  Is he OK?


If you are talking about Bob Gonzalez, he's doing extremely well.  I saw him at Top Gun (first week of May) and he was in fine form.  He sold his Genesis Waco to a Doctor in Miami, and was campaigning a large Spitfire.  It had quite a few teething problems, and was unable to continue in the competition.  He told me that he was going back to building Wacos. 

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/17/2009 9:30 AM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/17/2009 10:24 AM   
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I was wondering if anyone has built or flew the T&J 1/12 scale Waco YMF.
http://www.tnjmodels.rchomepage.com/tnjwaco.php

I haven't seen one this size before and thought it might be a pretty neat addition, any thoughts?



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RE: WACO YMF - 6/17/2009 2:30 PM   
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I was wondering if anyone has built or flew the T&J 1/12 scale Waco YMF.
http://www.tnjmodels.rchomepage.com/tnjwaco.php

I haven't seen one this size before and thought it might be a pretty neat addition, any thoughts?




I have one of these but have not even opened the bag yet.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/17/2009 4:25 PM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/17/2009 4:59 PM   
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I like this one! 




Me Too.

Can I order one to go?

Seriously, She sure looks good Joe...Beautiful Plane....

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/17/2009 7:15 PM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/18/2009 3:05 AM   
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I like this one! 




Joe,

I promise to do the 27% UPF-7 just like that.  Oops. I kinda let the cat out of the bag didn't I?????

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/18/2009 3:07 AM   
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How about the 27% dressed up in the  919TT suit............Here is the MASTER inspecting     " let's see do we have the right number of corrugations on this alieron"


Tom, that model is of a UMF-5, and mine is a YMF-5  That won't work.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/18/2009 4:19 AM   
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When you build your 27% what year Waco will you model it after? The older or newer version? What ever you decide I’m glad to hear you talk about it. I predict you will have a hit with this one. I’m looking forward to its release.


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RE: WACO YMF - 6/18/2009 4:31 AM   
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Bill,

 

I like this one I’m not sure what color it is maybe red & white? 1935 Waco YMF5 NC 14132

 

  http://www.nationalwacoclub.com/f3f5album/slides/1935%20Waco%20YMF-5%20NC14132%2006.html



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RE: WACO YMF - 6/18/2009 7:00 AM  1 votes
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Ken Hodges (khodges) based his re-work of the COX/Pica ARF YMF on NC 14132 and did it in cream and red. We talked with Andy Heins who has most of the pictures in his collection and found out that NC 14132 (s/n 3957) is currently disassembled in a hanger in Ohio and the in the picture you referenced, the colors are the original Dark Blue and White from the factory. Other photos in the same album show it in yellow and red with a different cowl and also with different paint trim. Another variation is an air balance on the rudder has been added and is different from the original with out the balance and today’s YMF Supers with the slanted balance. There are a couple of pictures of Ken's YMF (actually a UMF with the cowl COX supplied) in the first part of this thread.

Also Bill will have to limit his choices for a Pica YMF to the original 18 or the first 10 Waco Classic Aircraft YMFs to stay half way accurate in scale. The WCA YMFs after #10 shortened the main landing gear and lengthed the tail gear. After #40 they became YMF Supers with a longer and wider fuselage and numerous other upgrades, mostly internal.

As far as the model pictured of N 919TT, the full size is a YMF Super (s/n F5C111) made in 2006 with a Jacobs R-755B2 Engine and lives in California.


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RE: WACO YMF - 6/18/2009 10:58 AM   
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Status: online 		It/they will be the YMF, but it will not be the Super.  The UPF is the big surprise.  I think that the lead UPF should be a model of Joe's in honor of his membership in the Brotherhood.  I like the YMF that you featured in your photo, but I'm thinking that the Dark Blue and Cream/White as the original would be a great one.  These 27% models are going to be done around the Zenoah GT 80 engine.  It's heavy enough to improve the balance of the model, and they have adequate power to pull the plane.  The wingspan will be right on 97". so they will transport well in a minivan, SUV or sport wagon.  I had an opportunity for a 40% version, but I don't have either the space for storage, or transportation without purchasing a trailer, and that is not something that I wish to do.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/18/2009 2:34 PM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/18/2009 3:12 PM   
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That one is a Super.  Mine won't have the same scale dimension, so that one is not in the running.  I really wish I had some photos of my GrandFather's YMF.  There were some in existance, but someone else in the family (now long gone) got them.  It would be like looking for the proverbial needle in the haystack.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/22/2009 2:22 PM  1 votes
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Status: online 		Wooohaaa, I scored big this weekend at the 2009 American Waco Club Fly In this weekend. I got a ride in the Waco pictured in P1. Totally cool as the pilot did some lazy 8's and a modified hammer head as well as just flying around the area.

Attendance was down due to the weather surrounding St Louis this year and the storms that kept threatening Creve Coeur Airport. Still there were about 17 Wacos of various shapes and sizes that did make it in.

Joe Norris (WacoJoe) and his wife Jeri came down in his UPF-7 despite the weather, good seeing you again Joe. (please don't tell them what I got my ride in)

Some Wacos that made it in were different from the last 2 years were an UEC, the _____ in P1, a Blue UPF, a very nice Red UPF and CCAs own newly restored YKS. The weather kept the planes hangered for a good part of the weekend but the owners and pilots did bring them out for display during the sunshine. CTO NC 280W, also known as Question Mark was brought out of the Museum and demonstrated how it set and held the climb to altitude records back in the day

P1 - ______, a very rare 1934 Waco. Can you guess what it is?
P2 – UPF-7, NC 29943 in Blue and Yellow, painted by the same painter as P3.
P3 – UPF-7, NC 32158 in Maroon and Yellow.
P4 – UPF-7, N 620AM, very nicely restored in Red with the civilian wing cutout, fairings on the landing gear, a Lycoming 9 cylinder engine and a few other nice touches.
P5 – YKS-7, NC 17457 before the current restoration and after a crash way back.
P6 – YKS-7, NC 17457 after restoration with the engine upgrades to a 275 hp Jacobs. Cruise is about 130 mph and they hope to get 135 mph after some more fairing work.
P7 – CTO, NC 280W, Question Mark in action. The big Wright engine makes a difference. It does not just levitate like most Wacos, it rotates and goes UP.
P8 – UEC, NC 12471, an Oshkosh 2000 award winner and member of the 2003 Air Tour (hence the # 15 on the side). Kept polished and ready for the next event.


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RE: WACO YMF - 6/22/2009 4:17 PM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/22/2009 4:41 PM   
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Nope, unfortunately no UMFs or YMFs were at this years Fly In. Count the cylinders.


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RE: WACO YMF - 6/22/2009 6:01 PM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/22/2009 6:29 PM   
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Nope, unfortunately no UMFs or YMFs were at this years Fly In. Count the cylinders.



Well, there appears to be 9 of them little buggers......Gimme a hint......What's the tail number?????
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/23/2009 3:47 AM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/23/2009 4:48 AM   
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How 'bout Dick Jackson's 1934 WACO S3HD  NC14048?




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You got it (except for the "C" in the tail #). Send me a PM with your address and I'll send you a CD with about 100 pictures if N 14048.

Dick is one very nice fellow and actually came looking for me to give me the ride. A very gracious gesture and memorable flight from a very generous person.

P1 - N 14048, 1934 S3HD, the only S3HD on the civilian registry, the other, a S3HD-A was exported to Cuba where it crashed shortly after arrival.
P2 - Looking at the runway on final.
P3 - A look at the stabilizer airfoil
P4 - Claude McCulloughs model of the S3HD-A
P5 - Question Mark, NC 280W, off the port wing. One of the few Wacos that could keep up with the S3HD

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/23/2009 2:38 PM   
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I got to see Claude's model several years ago.  It was well executed, but didn't blow my shirt tail up.  I wish he had done one in that size of the YMF, or UPF.

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