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RE: WACO YMF - 6/27/2011 12:01 PM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/27/2011 12:46 PM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/27/2011 8:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello Brothers and others. I found this link on metal etching that some of us may find very handy for Instrument panels and other related metal parts. And in fact could be used for many things in our hobby. Just thought it might be useful to some of you and thought I would share. http://forums.dfoggknives.com/index.php?showtopic=17602

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/27/2011 8:41 PM   
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i'm looking to pick the color and markings for my bird, and think i found what i'm looking for on N15700 a 1935 ypf, one of two, that was custom built by waco for a miss connie e. johnston. can these markings and colors be used on my ymf if i'm building scale. does documentation have to be provided for both the construction and the paint/ markings, i can't find anything that spells it out. where would i look.

don't mean to be a bother.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/27/2011 9:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Check the scalemasters site for a guide line it is in the PDF fliles on competition guide.  For scale contest the plane type UPF, YMF etc.  Needs to match the plane you are modeling otherwise you will recieve downgrades.  Even slight differences such as a UMF cowl on a YMF is caught and downgraded.  Best to pick one that matches the kit you are building from the start, and make everything as close as possible to the subject you are modeling.  Hope this helps here is the link to the scalemasters site.
www.usscalemasters.org/

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/27/2011 9:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well the flair's are done, so is the wheel pant's.Now on to the flying wire's.
Speaking of wire, it's still free and  there is plenty left.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/27/2011 9:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ceije to all, i'm looking to pick the color and markings for my bird, and think i found what i'm looking for
on N15700 a 1935 ypf, one of two, that was custom built by waco for a miss connie e. johnston. can these markings and colors
be used on my ymf if i'm building scale. does documentation have to be provided for both the construction and the paint/markings,
i can't find anything that spells it out. where would i look. don't mean to be a bother. ceije # 196


To better understand what is required of you I invite you to review this documentation binder How-To. It explains and illustrates
the proper way to show documentaiton of both color markings, specific airframe features, and multiple view drawing presentation
for competition purposes.

The thing to remember is you are "replicating" a single full size airframe. Documentation which matches that of the features on a
single full size airframe can be merged with images of the full size you are replicating to show details and focus areas on the
airframe not typically available in a documentation resource...unless you have the 1:1 to photograph.

A typical Waco issue is most color photographic documentation is of the present day Classic Waco. It is best to determine the owner
of a specific airframe and acquire a photographic walkaround and obtain all the paint particulars...which is probably a Randolph color.

Enjoy, though its a Beech documentation example...well at least it is a bipe... :^)

http://004edc4.netsolhost.com/Documentation/Beechcraft_YC43_Docs/Beechcraft_YC43_Docs.htm


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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 12:59 AM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 1:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: acerc

Well the flair's are done, so is the wheel pant's.Now on to the flying wire's.
Speaking of wire, it's still free and  there is plenty left.

Your doing a great job with your Waco

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 1:33 AM   
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Bill is right. Trying to retro fit and reop a model to match documentation is a chore best left to those with little else to do.
Serious competitive flying scale modelers build from documentation from the beginning. Makes for an enjoyable experience
not matched by much in the modeling hobby...

Owners of 1:1 are typically more than happy to provide a photo walkaround of their pride and joys. Contributing $20 to
their maintenance bootie doesn't hurt one bit.

Do you have a decent multiple view drawing? I would expect at a minimum you should find one here...whether its UMF,
YMF, etc.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 2:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks WacoNut. I have been working for about three hours now on these flying wires. Going to be a real PITA.
Good thing I'm retired. Here it is


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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 3:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Robert,
You are looking good, I think you nailed it with the material you used for flying wires. I've been intrupted but hope to get back to my build again soon.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 7:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh Oh, I want to be a brother!! I have the Pica ARF(blue with yellow markings) powered by an OS 110 Alpha 4 stroke. My obsession has lead me to the GP new ARF. Hopefully I will be be collecting goodies to put one of those together soon, thinking about the OS 155 Alpha's for it. I have a few large gas 3D machines but prefer the glow 4 stroke for these scale birds.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 11:37 AM   
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Let's give sevans16 a hearty welcome. You are Brother #208.
Do you have a real name to go with your code name?

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 1:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		thanks for the responce, its time to start looking for new subject matter. i guess i was trying to work bass ackwords, again thanks for setting me streight and pointing me in the right direction.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 3:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank You Jim, your's is on it's way.
Welcome to newbie, sevans16. Enjoy

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 4:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bill I also would like to join the brotherhood. My plans just arrived, 1/5 scale pica ymf. AMA plans service came through for me. Very fast this time around. Thanks George

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 4:51 PM   
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Status: online 		Welcome to the brotherhood Jason & Ken and Sevans16. I’ll be looking forward in your build.

Robert,
Your Waco’s moving along quite nicely and looking great.

Ed,

Bomber field is a fantastic looking field. I would love to see a Waco fly in but don’t think I could make the trip. I’m vary lucky to be living within 30 min of Lakeland home of Top Gun, Fl Jet and Monster planes I get to see all these world class planes and meet some of the pilots. I also get to see Bill (stickbuilder) Mitch and his beautiful Waco and a few other Brothers that attend. Thinking about that I guess I’m a pretty lucky guy LOL.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 5:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ceije thanks for the responce, its time to start looking for new subject matter. i guess i was trying to work bass
ackwords, again thanks for setting me streight and pointing me in the right direction. ceije #196



Ceije:

Was this helpful? http://004edc4.netsolhost.com/Documentation/Beechcraft_YC43_Docs/Beechcraft_YC43_Docs.htm

Simply gather 100% of your documentation before you start. It is not time consuming today with all the online resources available.
If help is desired I can be of assistance.



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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 5:58 PM   
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ed, thanks for the offer, it seems all of a sudden i've fallen into a world of new of information, me thinks i cried wolf too soon. my plain was to build a yfm with documentation for the construction and detail end then provide documentation of a ypm for the color schem and trim. i did think about converting the yfm to a ypm, it looked simple but when i investigated it became complex. i now found a yfm that i'm woking on using just waiting for the owner to reply.
to answer your question ed, yes that info was of help and will be used to present my documentation at a later date.
right now i have a bowing or warpage situation to correct, it seems there must have been a lot of humidity here last week while i was away the leading edges and two ribs now have bows in them. oh well!!

thanks again
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 8:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Come on guy's. Since mogman's post on 6/20.  No other build's beside's mine?  I need some inspiration. Post photo's.
Why?, because these wire's are pizzing me off.


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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 11:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		All parts now covered, stitched, taped, poly-brushed, glass and metal parts epoxy primered, ready to apply the poly-spray tomorrow, maybe colour on the weekend???

As I have said, I am not replicating any particular YMF, this model is for flying, not competing. I chose a colour scheme from Airliners.net for a UPF 7. Dark green fuse, cream wings and tail feathers, black trim outlined with a fine yellow stripe.

I've been working my bu** off to get this done in time for Monster Planes in Oct....5 months to this stage. almost burned out, but not quite. This is the most concentrated time I've ever put into a model. Can't wait to see it in the air and listen to that 400.

Cheers,
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RE: WACO YMF - 6/28/2011 11:33 PM   
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Very nice mogman, very nice indeed and thank's for the boost.


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RE: WACO YMF - 6/29/2011 12:34 AM   
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We have another new Brother. Let's all welcome rccrasher65 (George) as Brother #209.

Welcome George. I've been wondering if you were ever going to ask.

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/29/2011 12:44 AM   
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