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RE: WACO YMF - 1/19/2013 5:10 AM   
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On my Pepino 1/4 scale Waco, I went with two servos for ailerons. Why does the GP need four?? Pretty easy to link the second aileron. Or am I missing something??

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Nope not missing anything it's just for some reason Great Planes thought that is was a good idea to setup both wings with servos and it doesn't come with any control rod to use between the ailerons. I think it is a waste if two servos.

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/19/2013 8:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		rcboatomatic, Dave what I've done is sandwitch the rod between2 pc.''s of maybe 3/32 balsa & then sand that to a airfoil shape. Out at that thin edge you could also put a small piece of 64th ply top & bottom and then cover that w/ your covering would make it pretty strong. A thought.

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/19/2013 10:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Finished up mounting the javelins to the flying wires and made up some telescoping aileron connecting rods today...great fun! I used some piano wire, brass tubing, aluminum airstream tubing, brass threaded solder ends and metal clevises to make the pushrods. The horns are cut down nylon horns that were heated up and bent to the correct angles for both sides. The top clevis is on a section of rod riding inside a brass tubing sleeve with a short section soldered to the end to act as a stop. Once mounted in the aluminum it can slide freely about an inch but is trapped and won't fall out. I have left them the bare aluminum at this point as it's quite cold in the house and even colder outside so spray painting will have to wait until spring. It took a bit of fiddling to get the first one to slide smoothly but the second one was a piece of cake.

While I had it all together I took the opportunity to weigh it...it comes in around 13 lbs best I can tell with bathroom scales.

Now I can take the wings back off and start on the center section fuel tank detail and then the dummy engine. The flying wires are anchored to the fuselage and clip to brackets on the wings for quick assembly.

Good day to be inside!

Jaybird

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/19/2013 11:29 PM   
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Stickbuilder,
I recently bought a Byron FPN7 Waco. The price range you quoted was in line with what the previous owner was asking,

and the incidence +2 Top Wing, 0 Bottom Wing , and +2 Stab was also in the same general area. i hope these planes catch the eye

of modelers since they are in my opinion great looking and supposedly very good flyers.

Dan


I'd expect a little difficulty in your landings with that incidence set-up. Why positive incidence on the upper wing? That will make it stall first.

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/23/2013 12:07 AM   
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Nobody doing anything with their Waco's? I will start covering the 1/3 again this weekend.
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RE: WACO YMF - 1/23/2013 12:09 AM   
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Hopefully that counts!

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/23/2013 12:17 AM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 1/23/2013 1:01 AM   
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Yes it does
Just been awful quiet here the past few days, figured I would wake someone up
Anthony

Looks like your going to have her back in the air real soon.
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RE: WACO YMF - 1/23/2013 2:30 AM   
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Status: online 		Bob,
The Waco will take a good long while to cover, detail and paint. I don't think it will see a re-maiden until May or early June. I am sure the plane will be ready before the pilot I will get plenty of stick time on my other planes before the Waco will see the air.
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RE: WACO YMF - 1/23/2013 11:21 AM   
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RE: WACO YMF - 1/24/2013 10:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm awake!  Just been busy on the Waco. I finally attached the stab and rudder. Over the weekend, I made up my first set of wires for the tail bracing.  I thought it might be of interest to anyone looking for a nice set of hardware. The fork ends (as they are called by Mick Reeves) and flat wire, as well as the pinked tape came from Mick Reeves.  This is the 1/16" wide wire. I also have some 3/32" I'll be using on the flying and landing wires when I get to the wing. While I"m not 100% satisfied with my final results on how the silver soldering looks, I started with the tail for practice.  It's a simple matter to go back and heat it up again and re-do it. The trick is to make it appear as though the wire joint is coming from the center of the threads and are a part of them...  I have a little ways to go with that.

As for the rudder / stab joint, I'm doing some filling with the light spackle to try to make it appear as a screwed on fairing. We'll see how that goes in a few days.

I stuck my thumg in one of the shots for size reference.

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/25/2013 12:06 AM   
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What covering are you using?

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/25/2013 12:17 AM   
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What covering are you using?

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HI Chuck,

I went with KoverAll. At this point it has four coats of 50/50 (reduced) NItrate dope and two coats of MinWax PolyCrylic.  I'm about ready for some color as soon as I finish up the fillits, etc.

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/25/2013 3:02 AM   
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What did you thin the nitrate with?

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/25/2013 3:04 AM   
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What did you thin the nitrate with?

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Sig dope thinner.

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/25/2013 3:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		" While I"m not 100% satisfied with my final results on how the silver soldering looks,"

If you were to find some heat shrink tubing in a color close to your base, or trim color, and cover the joint, it may please you better, and no one else would be able to see.

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/25/2013 4:15 PM   
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" While I"m not 100% satisfied with my final results on how the silver soldering looks,"

If you were to find some heat shrink tubing in a color close to your base, or trim color, and cover the joint, it may please you better, and no one else would be able to see.

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HI Les,

Thanks for the suggestion. It's a little too late for that now without de-soldering one end to slip the heat shrink over the wire.  I'll give that a try on my next set of wires to see how I like it.  I can always go back.....

The trick to making these look like they should is to grind an angle on the end of the threads. When the flat wire is soldered to it, then ground down properly, it should look pretty close to the ends of the full scale wires or even the ones sold at our scale that are made in Europe and high $$$.

Thinking ahead a little, I'm just wondering how you guys are doing the javilin on the wing wires and still have the ability to take the wings off or adjust the tension. You have to rotate the wires to make any adjustments or to loosen them up for disassembly.  The closer I get to finished, the more I'm concerned that I won't be able to get this in my Caravan fully assembled. Has anyone else tried that?

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/25/2013 5:07 PM   
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Thinking ahead a little, I'm just wondering how you guys are doing the javilin on the wing wires and still have the ability to take the wings off or adjust the tension. You have to rotate the wires to make any adjustments or to loosen them up for disassembly.  The closer I get to finished, the more I'm concerned that I won't be able to get this in my Caravan fully assembled. Has anyone else tried that?

Joe


Joe, on my 40% I have used very small rubber bands, "O"rings etc,(picture) but the vibration kept breaking some of them. I now use very small zip ties...no more issues. Not very scale, I know, but no one notices when it's flying past. My Waco is not a "scale" model, it looks and sounds good in the air. That works for me.

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/25/2013 5:49 PM   
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Thinking ahead a little, I'm just wondering how you guys are doing the javilin on the wing wires and still have the ability to take the wings off or adjust the tension. You have to rotate the wires to make any adjustments or to loosen them up for disassembly.  The closer I get to finished, the more I'm concerned that I won't be able to get this in my Caravan fully assembled. Has anyone else tried that?

Joe


Joe, on my 40% I have used very small rubber bands, "O"rings etc,(picture) but the vibration kept breaking some of them. I now use very small zip ties...no more issues. Not very scale, I know, but no one notices when it's flying past. My Waco is not a "scale" model, it looks and sounds good in the air. That works for me.

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Dave,

Thanks for your remarks.  I can see how the rubber bands could be a problem.. The zip ties could work on my model as well. The bottom line is that they have to be easily removed and replaced.  This gives me something to work with.

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/25/2013 5:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I used 2-56 pull-pull set with threaded couplings and clevises from DU-BRO on my smaller GP WACO ARF. See posts 15844 and 15928. The wires are the nylon coated cable included in the kits which are anchored to the fueslage and upper wing center section and clipped to small brackets on the upper and lower wings. The javelin is secured to the wires and when the four lines are unclipped from the wing it can just hang or be stuffed into the cabanes for transport. All wires can then be adjusted at the threaded couplings if needed.

The 4-40 pull-pull cable set might be closer the right size for the larger model.

Jaybird

p.s. Sorry, looking again (now that the other pictures are there) i can see my system won't help with yours since you have to spin the whole flying wire and not just the clevis on the end.

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/26/2013 12:04 AM   
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I do not use dope for filling the weave just atatching the fabric. When I thin the dope I use a good quality laquer thinner. If I were going to be using the dope for filling the weave and finish color with dope I would use the dope thinner to match the dope I am using.

I have not seen any ill effects from using laquer thinner to thin the dope for attaching the fabric. I had a tough time removing the fabric from my 33% Waco after the crash to access the damage.


As far as the Javelins on the flying wires go I have seen Waco's with the wires thru the javelin and secured by wrapped string coated with a sealer(dope?) and a couple that were actually secured with zip ties. I had mine secured with zip ties and on display at the Waco museum and a spectator made mention that my plane looked great but he thought the javelins just didn't look right with the zip ties holding them on. About a half hour later he came back and appologized for his comment as there were 2 Waco's parked that had zip ties holding the javelins on

I installed new flying wires the day before the crash and had the wires going thru the javelins. Will most likely do the same this time around.
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RE: WACO YMF - 1/26/2013 1:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Guys I need help. I'm trying to bend the leading edge sheeting on the tip of the third scale Waco wing. The piece of balsa is about 8" long by 3mm thick and wraps ok in the flight direction. However it is really tough to bend in root to tip direction. Soaking the balsa with 50/50 ammonia/water helps, but not much. How can the balsa be softened more so it will stretch and conform to the shape. One option is to go to a thinner sheet. Any and all suggestions would be appreciated.

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/26/2013 1:38 AM   
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Ohe option would be to cut a thin sliver of a wedge to allow it to make the bend. It should not take much. If you are carefuyl, and use a wood (white) glue in the joint, it will sand without liaving a ridge and you'll never know you cut it.  Compound curves can be a problem sometimes.

Are you a member of the Waco Brotherhood? I don't see you mentioining it here. (Not that it makes a difference).  If not all you need do is mention it and Bill will take care of that!

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/26/2013 3:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I finished up the center section on my GP ARF this evening. I made up some fuel filler caps with dowels and fuel line plugs and the tank vents with assorted brass and steel parts. I think they came out pretty well and give the illusion of detail. Next is the dummy engine. But tomorrow is a trip to Owls Head to drop off the 1/6 scale Top Flite SE5a that they have accepted as a donation. There is also a seminar on bird and aircraft flight characteristics that should be fun. Then I'll visit my daughter-in-law and 3 month old grandson who live nearby.

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RE: WACO YMF - 1/26/2013 3:39 AM   
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These pictures are of the Javilin on NC 14081 a 1987 YMF built by Waco Classic Aviation. This is just one example on a full scale Waco.

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