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RE: WACO YMF - 11/3/2006 12:00:49 AM   
Jim Henley


 

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Well I have the vertical and horizontal stab off and now I need to cut new pieces to replace those I damaged. I agree, I'd much rather do this now than after the covering was on. It also gives me an opportunity to check everything with the incidence meter just in case there are other issues.
Have you decided on the trim for your wife's new Waco or are you still working that out?
Jim

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RE: WACO YMF - 11/3/2006 11:01:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Decisions have been made, and the color choice is finalized. I am working on various sketches to nail down the final version. Remember who is to be the pilot, and that the scheme is to be based around that. There will be lettering on the fuselage to promote flying. It should be different. The leading edges of the wings and tail surfaces must remain pure WACO though. There is no getting around that one. Last evening, I hung it from the ceiling in the Florida room. It's BIG! We have Grandkids coming down from Nashville this weekend, so up there is the safest place for it. They've got Disney on their minds.

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It's easy, just glue all the pieces together, and sand off everything that doesn't look like an airplane.

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RE: WACO YMF - 11/4/2006 2:06:26 PM   
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I know you are running a 1.60 twin and I think h-500 is running a 1.70 radial. I was hoping to utilize the beam mount that has already been built into the fuse. So, what do you think I need for power? I know a 1.20 FX will fit the mount, or possibly a 1.60 two stroke.
Any suggestions? I know the four stroke definitely will sound better but not sure if I can locate (afford) one that will be large enough.
Thanks
Jim

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RE: WACO YMF - 11/5/2006 1:51:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jim, I think that either the FX 120 or the 106 2 stroke will be grossly overpower this model. I did one of these once with the Moki 1.8, and it was AWESOME !!! I think that a better choice for you if you wish to fly within the scale envelope is the O.S. 120 4 stroke. This engine is plenty powerful for this airframe. The 160 twin just sounds better. In actuality, it is probably no more powerful than the 120 4 stroke. It is not a, "Barn Burner". Like I said, it just looks and sounds neat.

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RE: WACO YMF - 11/5/2006 2:13:17 AM   
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Thanks for the advice, I have a 1.20 4 stroke on a Great Planes, Super Stearman (ARF), which is very scale like in flight. At times though, I get concerned that it may be slightly under powered, since the Waco is a little larger than the Stearman, I want to be sure that I have enough horse power to stay out of trouble.
Guess I need to start looking for another OS 1.20 4 stroke!
Thanks again for the advise, I really appreciate the help !
Jim



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RE: WACO YMF - 11/5/2006 7:45:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Since your question was directed at Bill, I waited. I would recommend the new Saito 125

I had a newer Enya 120 4 stroke in my hand today (150.00) if I did not already own the 170 3cylinder, I would have bought it. It still took a lot to not buy it. This self control is highly over rated !

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RE: WACO YMF - 11/5/2006 1:01:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, and please jump in anytime. I am open to any suggestions from folks that have more expeience than I do. If you, Bill and I had not had these discussions my Waco could have turned into a disaster.
I have read some good things about the Satio 125, and the guys here that the fly the Satio only have good things to say about them. All my engines are O.S. Except for the Fox .60 that I have on my Astro-Hog but I am not adverse to trying a different engiine.
Again, I welcome any suggestions or advice as I have not been doing this very long and I know there are lots of things I have to learn.
Thanks for all your help.

BTW I got the headrest off with out too much damage and got the parts cut out from the templates you sent.
I ordered an incidence meter last night and it should be here in a few days. Maybe now I can start going forward again instead of backward..
Jim

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RE: WACO YMF - 11/5/2006 1:51:52 PM   
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Thanks, and please jump in anytime. I am open to any suggestions from folks that have more expeience than I do. If you, Bill and I had not had these discussions my Waco could have turned into a disaster.
I have read some good things about the Satio 125, and the guys here that the fly the Satio only have good things to say about them. All my engines are O.S. Except for the Fox .60 that I have on my Astro-Hog but I am not adverse to trying a different engiine.
Again, I welcome any suggestions or advice as I have not been doing this very long and I know there are lots of things I have to learn.
Thanks for all your help.

BTW I got the headrest off with out too much damage and got the parts cut out from the templates you sent.
I ordered an incidence meter last night and it should be here in a few days. Maybe now I can start going forward again instead of backward..
Jim


Jim,

As long as you are making progress, backward or forward does not matter. I have no experience with the Saito (I have only owned one) and I found it to be a little more cranky than was the equivelant O.S. It's personal preference. I know several guys that swear by the Saito, and a few who do not like the O.S. (the old Chevy/Ford thing). Keep us posted on your progress. I think that if others would try these kits rather than attempting to turn them into a hoarding thing and keeping them in the box, more folks would find what a wonderful flying model that they have. It just requires a little more attiention than does the average kit. I am doing some scaling up for my next one, and am in the middle of making decisions on dimensional choices for the wood. Scaling up to 25% does not make for available selections. Sticks need to be available from the cutters in the sizes needed. Some will be the next size up, and others will be the next size down. Stringers, for example do not need to be 19/64" .

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RE: WACO YMF - 11/7/2006 11:41:03 PM   
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Well I am just about back where I started. I have the stringers replaced and the F-14 and F-15 glued back ready to start reworking the stab. I located the original F-28 pieces in the kit but I'm not sure how to fit them around the F-15. Obviously they are going to need a little water to make them plyable --Manually Fix-- playable ply able ply-able payable pliable flyable palpable enough to bend around F-13. The other question I have is where do the push rods exit? The plan has them exiting through F-28 but I can not figure out how unless I have to drill holes in the rear formers and the plate that the crutch attaches to to form the rear of the fuse. I had planed to use carbon fiber push rods with metal ends and clevis, so again I am looking for suggestions from folks who have done this before.
Thanks
Jim

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RE: WACO YMF - 11/8/2006 10:04:05 AM   
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