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WACO YMF - 3/20/2006 6:48:25 PM   
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I bought the Pica YMF 3/5 on ebay yesterday. I have offered it to 2 kit cutters to see if they would be interested in reproducing this one. I believe that the Copyright has expired on this kit, and PICA is no longer in business. I need a little help here. all who would be interested in a new kit of this model, please let me know. These are business people, and they will want an idea of the demand for this one prior to making this kind of investment.

<<Moderator Edit: Edited to add thread index at the request of the members of this thread.>>

Pica Waco YMF Index
(Just click on the post number and it will take you to that post)


Most items of interest are included and this index also references the Barth YMF, Jim Pepino YMF and other threads that may have information pertinent to the subject. It is likely that some items have been overlooked and not all items listed. Suggest looking at a few posts before and after the selected post to see if your question is answered. Or post your question.

Thanks to SuperCubMan (WB #56) for compiling most of the index (I added a few more), CTflyboy (WB #5) for tipping me off on the index and putting me in touch with Ken Isaac, RCU Moderator, who gave me the format to convert the index and for inserting it in this thread. Skylarkmk1 (WB #26).

Additional info can be found on the House of Moy supplemental Site http://www.houseofmoy.com/waco/

Ailerons
1878, 2307, 2849, 2854, 3041, 3054, 3079, 391(Barth), 3809, 3811, 1491, 1509, 3747, 3754, 4006, 83(Barth), 91(Barth), 4097, 3373

Cockpit
174, 172, 2324, 2590, 2843, 2849, 2993, 2997, 116, 108(Barth), 410(Barth),

Cockpit – 1930s
1920, 2995, 3335 (SRE), 3646, 3650, 3651, 3652, 3659, 3660, 3670

Cockpit – Classic and Supers
2993, 2997, 1929

Covering
1783, 1784, 1785, 1786, 1787, 1792

Cowl
3401, 3402, 4202, 4208, 4221, 4228, 4432, 4874, 4877, 4878, 4881, 4890, 4941

Flying Wires
195 (Barth), 199 (Barth), 201 (Barth), 2322, 4087, 4093, 4499

Fuselage – Construction
1801, 1806, 1595, 2009, 2221, 2545, 2687, 3126, 1 (Barth)

Fuselage – Hatch – Model
98 (Barth), 1386, 1395, 1404, 1694, 2319

Full Size
213 (Pepino), 3304, 3323

Windscreen
172 (Barth), 1591, 2194

Front Cockpit
1412

Landing Gear – Sprung
1471, 3898

Aluminum Sheet
3028, 3036, 3053, 3063, 3129, 3132, 3138, 3208, 4701

Full Scale YMF Fairings
2909, 2923, 2931

Center Spring Wire Gear
35 (Barth), 37 (Barth), 40 (Barth), 1646, 1649, 3993, 4526, 4530, 4546, 4548, 4550, 4551

Hatch
1628, 1649

Covering
4902, 4903, 4904

Engine – G-26
2829, 3853

Engine – Saito 160 Twin
16, 19

Engine – Saito 120
58

Engine – Saito 170 Radial
155, 2996

Full Size
1959, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1969, 4059, 4111

Dummy
883, 931, 4055, 4057, 4058, 4060, 4062, 4085, 4121, 3675

Exhaust
722, 337 (Barth)

Fuel Dot
1696

Prop
4067, 4069

Rudder Trim Tab
3102, 3103, 3112, 374 (Barth)

Rudder Details
2933, 2938

Rudder Control Horns
1690, 1791

Adjustable Stab
1620

Struts and Cabanes – Wing
3126, 350 (Barth), 351 (Barth)], 353 (Barth), 3889, 4882, 4887, 4888. 4889, 5009, 5012, 5243

Strut – Brazing
4971

Tail Wire Bracing
4921

Wheels – Full Size Tail Wheel
2786, 2803, 78 (Pepino), 2963

Model Tail Wheel
719, 720, 1050, 1051, 1052, 1063, 2221, 68 (Pepino), 69 (Pepino)

Tail Wheel – Spring loaded
2512, 2538, 2575, 2937, 3024

Wings – Struts
351 (Barth), 353 (Barth), 754, 755, 2907

Wing Tips – Model
2395, 2398, 2540, 2946

Wing Tips – Full Size
2542, 2543, 2699

Wing/Fuselage Fairing
159, 167, 455, 2522, 5235

Wing Dihedral/Brace
80, 85, 88, 300, 2686

Wing – Tank Cover
2951, 4157, 4161

Wing Servo Mounts
754, 755

Wing Aileron Hinges
3995

Lights – Wing Tip – Navigation – Landing
3439, 3442, 3661, 3678, 3679, 3681, 3683, 3684, 3777, 3786, 3787, 4065, 403 (Barth), 4386

General Detail – Logos – Data Plates
1924, 3000, 1407, 4115, 4118, 4376, 4384, 16 (Barth), 4352

Locks, Latches, Screws and Panels
1910, 3336, 1818, 1833, 1859, 47 (Barth), 54 (Barth), 64 (Barth), 67 (Barth)


Completed Models
59, 60 (Barth), 101, 128, 184, 189, 257, 306, 348, 383, 462, 498 (Barth), 499 (Barth), 3637
2318, 2319, 2320, 2322, 2324, 1858, 1863, 4125

< Message edited by RCKen -- 2/18/2008 5:06:21 AM >


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RE: WACO YMF - 3/20/2006 7:36:31 PM   
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Me! This one has been on my wish list for a long time.

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RE: WACO YMF - 3/20/2006 9:00:27 PM   
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Thanks, I need to show the kit cutters a bona fide demand for this one. I mean, I'm willing to let them use my kit for patterns and use the plans and the manual, this seems like a no brainer. I may end up having to have them cut the kit, and I may have to have the plans and manual reprinted, and distribute the kits myself. Small price to keep this one alive.

Bill

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RE: WACO YMF - 3/25/2006 5:59:01 PM   
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One consideration might be that there is always at least one PICA Waco on ebay and they consistantly sell for $160.00 for the 1/6 and $250.00 for the 1/5. There is a fair amount of wood and cutting plus the molded parts like the wheel pants, cowl, fuel tank, corrogated control coverings etc. Bob Harris was cutting Sr Falcon kits and selling them for $150 with good success. Given this info you would have to get a quote form your cutter. If you go glass cowl, to buy retail they are like $30+. I did contact one cutter about the kit and they said that there were too many parts to make it profitable.. Just my 2 Cent worth.

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RE: WACO YMF - 3/26/2006 10:34:13 AM   
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I didn't even consider the profit problem. This is probably why PICA is no longer in business. This kit should not be allowed to become lost to the ages. It is a beautiful model, and a true classic. No, it is not an ultimate, nor is it a pitts. It is the best Stand off scale model of the WACO YMF that has ever come along. I know that the scale purists out there can pick it to pieces, and I know that it does not conform exactly to scale outline, but I have never been one to nit-pick that closely. I would have been willing to finance cutting some kits in order to keep this one from suffering the same fate as have most of our favorites. This will not be necessary, since COX has purchased the PICA company, and will re-release the Grand PICA kits. There should be an adequate supply of them.

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RE: WACO YMF - 3/26/2006 12:32:54 PM   
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I have this kit on my wish list also, so I'd be interested. Scratch or kit, one day I'll own one!

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RE: WACO YMF - 6/30/2006 6:56:42 PM   
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Hi anyone out there looking for info on pica waco ymf 1/6 scale,wing incedince,both,stab incidence and cg any info would be helpful Please email to gallagher@mhcable.com yhanx Chris

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RE: WACO YMF - 7/1/2006 2:55:38 AM