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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/25/2006 3:04:17 PM   
ben beyer



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Status: offline 		Here's the final version of the video we made of the CAP:

http://media.putfile.com/CAP-Final

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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/26/2006 4:16:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice Vid Ben !! Now I need one of those

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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/26/2006 4:34:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good job. It does a great job of depicting the stability of the Cap in harrier and demonstrates a lot of nice flight qualities. I don't have a clue what the lyrics were to the final song but it sounded good! I had been wondering how the Cap would present in the air and now I know. Looks good!

Thanks again.

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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/27/2006 3:41:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		the cap is great my only gripe is the hovering... after lots of playing with the cg and thrust angles it just doesn't hover very well imo.... something about the prop wash over the plane??? I think this because elevator wise its fine, but it rocks back and forth with rudder input... i'm thinking that huge cowl knocks out some of the prop wash that could get to the rudder.... I'm interested in other CAP pilots experience with the hovering.... I haven't seen a video of anyone locked into a torque roll like i've seen out of the other WH planes... take my input with a grain of salt though im no crazy expert like some guys around here, just trying to get answers.

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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/27/2006 5:28:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Don't have a clue, but I know that planes are supposed to rock side to side with rudder input. You should fly the Sukhoi! Now that's a rudder Too much deflection and you'll know it when the plane stops in mid flight. Works r-e-a-l good, though.

Seriously, most Caps have been known to be a little "touchy" on the elevators so a light touch comes into play after a little time learning the plane and required deflections. Effective is a much better word for the condition rather than "touchy". Most of us over control our planes a large percentage of the time and a good Cap prefers the correct touch. Bless IMAC for teaching us the discipline to develop that touch.

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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/27/2006 5:45:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		i guess a better way to describe it is that it doesn't like to stay centered, it falls off very easily and is very hard to correct correctly.... lol obvioulsy hovers aren't easy and aren't supposed to just sit there and hover, but some hover much better than others..... i think i'm going to work on the hover thing for like 2 full tanks tomorrow and see if i can get some other ideas....

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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/27/2006 6:27:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds more like a balance issue, but be careful. Caps are quite sensitive to changes. Kinda lika a cat and their surroundings, they don't miss much. A plane that's on the nose heavy side will do as you describe in a hover.

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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/27/2006 2:53:18 PM   
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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/27/2006 3:02:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		yeah got er perfect. (mix) cg is about neutral inverted. i played around with the prop wash on a cap last night in AFPD and it feels similar.

i don't really have the ground clearance, but do you guys think i would gain more control going to a 26" prop? right now i run a 24*10 can't slow the thing down for landings though unless i practically kill the engine...

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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/27/2006 8:12:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did some harrier landings today! i bent the gear and ripped off a wheel pant so i took em off and bent the bear back and flew today and i love the pants but its so nice not worrying about them!

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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/27/2006 9:23:54 PM   
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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/28/2006 2:30:35 AM   
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yeah got er perfect. (mix) cg is about neutral inverted. i played around with the prop wash on a cap last night in AFPD and it feels similar.

i don't really have the ground clearance, but do you guys think i would gain more control going to a 26" prop? right now i run a 24*10 can't slow the thing down for landings though unless i practically kill the engine...


I'm not talking about the CG, i'm talking about the rudder/elevator coupling.

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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/28/2006 3:13:54 AM   
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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 9/28/2006 2:54:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, when you're flying along, can you give it rudder only input and it'll turn without loosing any altitude? I had to mix out my rudder/elevator coupling for knife edge and it doesn't rock back and forth when I hover.

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RE: Review of the Wild Hare CAP 232 - 10/2/2006 8:48:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		For anyone thats interested my 91" Cap w/ 3W-75 and smoke system came in at 21 lbs 8 oz. dry (just bought a dig scale!)

The smoke stuff is about 12 oz total weight not including the smoke oil. so that puts it at about 20.5- if you loose the wheel pants and do 4 more oz worth of lightening (which would be ez) you could have it at 20 lbs. I think at 20 lbs it would fly reasonably light. where i have it doesnt feel too light but its still a great plane. just a little info for anyone building a cap. I'm pretty excited to put this stuff in an extra 260 or edge 33% that tom has because its all the same engine and electronics plus 2 more servos in the wing which would be much lighter wing loading! i've seen the extra 260 w/ zdz 80 and it looks light as a feather coming in for landing. for now heres another video i threw together over the weekend for fun