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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspir... - 11/1/2006 2:10:25 AM   
    nrthwing


     

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    From: Hebron, KY, USA
    Status: offline     		Gentlemen, I have been there done that! In the last five years I have spent thousands of dollars on electric pattern planes, helis, sport planes, and alike. I bought into all the glow mess, noise issues, and other crap that persuaded me to "go electric". After starring at my watch during the entire flight to make sure I wasn't overstressing the battery and realizing ONE 40 size battery cost more that a 40 size glow engine I said enough is enough!

    It just wasn't worth the time or money for me. When I want to fly I want to fly, not wait for batteries to recharge. Regarding the goo from a glow engine. It is a mess, however this is a hobby! No I would not want to wipe it off 8 hours a day but as a hobby it's not so bad. I route the exhaust out the bottom so it's really not a big deal.

    To each his own. I am currently building an Edge 54T with a FX90 and A GP Venus II with an OS 120 surpass.
    I do still have a Brio, Tuff-E, and Stryker for convience, however when I want several back to back long flights I go glow.

    Mike

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspir... - 11/1/2006 9:53:47 PM   
    Wild Foamy



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    Status: offline     		well, i personally think its all this technology

    Brushless motors, LiPo systems, auto gadgets and micro whatsits, this means park flyers and such may be coming more popular as they are easier to build and you can fly them pretty much anywere

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspir... - 11/1/2006 10:10:16 PM   
    fcomer84


     

    Posts: 43
    Joined: 1/18/2006
    From: Alabaster, AL, USA
    Status: offline     		Piston powered planes (and turbines for our deep pocket brothers) are the essence of our hobby. The last time I went to the airport, I failed to see the electric 737's take off and land.
    A recent trip to Florida revealed black smoke trails coming from the F-16's at Tyndall AFB.
    I want realism, noise, the wonderful smell of bean oil and nitro burning, I want to cuss when the engine will not start, and marvel at internal combustion and the things it provides including my 84 mile round trip to the club field.
    Fuel for flying...............Electricity for trains! That is the natural order of things.

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspi... - 11/20/2006 8:48:39 PM   
    VictoryRoll-91



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    Joined: 7/11/2006
    From: Livonia, MI, USA
    Status: offline     		I fly all electrics, and I usually go to a place by my house that was once a middle school, it got knocked down, MASSIVE flying area. I have two electrics that are 40" and 43" and I can comfortably fly them there. I recently setup a 3d foamy that I can fly a half a block away at the El. School. I love to be able to do this! Electric is coming, and theres no stopping it.

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspi... - 11/24/2006 10:19:57 PM   
    Kevinator9



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    From: Auckland, NEW ZEALAND
    Status: offline     		Some guy at my club has NZD$500 battery! Nuts! I think electrics are just for begginers getting into the hobby to give them a taste. No point in buying a nitro chopper and smashing it up or not liking it.

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspi... - 11/25/2006 5:57:29 PM   
    joeman11


     

    Posts: 411
    Joined: 5/30/2004
    From: spring lake, MI, USA
    Status: offline     		I believe most of the electric models are most cost efficient for the park fliers. Not to replace a glow model, it's just too expensive to justify the end result. I'm building a gp tutor, and for christmas, I plan on getting a gws estarter and a gp rv-4. I have a nice park, with a soccer field and a large baseball field with some extra room. I love the smaller models. Sure, there's the wind factor, but all together, they are cheap, small, and fun to fly, even though there isn't a smoke trail behind it, included with a high pitch whine. Like I said, the electric models should stick to smaller, park fliers, not the huge, gas/electric converted ones with an $800 power system, it's just rediculus. Just my views, no one elses, Joe

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspir... - 12/3/2006 2:59:36 AM   
    flyingace451


     

    Posts: 948
    Joined: 3/6/2005
    From: Hixson, TN, USA
    Status: offline     		Personally all I fly is electric. I feel that electric power is good for any 3D planes under 3 pounds (48oz) in weight and good for just regular planes under 5 pounds (80oz) in weight. Anything after that and you risk a huge amount of money for something that has less power than glow/gas, as some of you have found out.

    I love electrics. The decent ones fly like their big 3D glow brothers but they cost so much less and take only a couple of hours to build instead of days. Sure they still have enough power to sever a finger completely, but they are quieter and far easier to maintain. I think that the electric change is for the better.

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspi... - 12/3/2006 6:29:40 PM   
    Tom Dooley Ole


     

    Posts: 7
    Joined: 11/5/2006
    From: , MI, USA
    Status: offline     		I personally fly both and have no real preference. I love the features of both. I don't mind spending money foolishly on this hobby. As a matter of fact that is what I'm best at. I like what they both have to offer and will always support both. I can't fly nitro's indoors when there are 50mph winds for a week straight. I like the option to do either. The weather usually decides for me. By no means are electrics in general newbie toys. These can be pretty tricky to fly.

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspi... - 1/12/2007 10:54:59 AM   
    Stickbuilder



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    From: leesburg, FL, USA
    Status: offline     		Looks like it all comes down to personal choice. I choose not to go with the electrics. My choice. You choose to go with them. Your choice. I play golf, my choice, you fish, your choice. It's a hobby. Just don't try to force me to enjoy the part of it that you like. If you like it, good for you. If you don't like it, again, good for you. It's just a shame that lines are being drawn.

    Bill, AMA 4720
    WACO Brotherhood #1

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspir... - 1/30/2007 9:47:13 AM   
    Daniel-EL



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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: icrashbipes

    OK, OK, I know it's good for the hobby. It introduces more beginners, it adds a vast product line for LHS's and the big manufacters to stock therefore creating bigger avenues of income. It's the future of the hobby. It's quiet and clean, etc.. BLAH BLAH BLAH

    I'm sick of it. I subscribe to 3 different RC mags, and for someone who doesn't fly electric, they have become a waste of money.
    90% of covered aircraft flight/field reports are dedicated completly to electric flight.

    I'm not an old timer, I don't fear change, while I'm not a huge glow fan, I love my gassers.



    I knew this post would bring all the nitwatts out of the woodwork. Nice bait, icrashbipes.

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspi... - 1/30/2007 3:45:27 PM   
    sscherin



    Posts: 938
    Joined: 8/17/2005
    From: Castle Rock, CO, USA
    Status: offline     		I'd like to try electric but I'm having a hard time getting over the startup cost. vs just sticking with glow motors.

    GWS has that cool little lighting out now with brushless motors for $80.. I thought Cool! I'll order one right now!

    Then I started adding things up.. 2 ESC's $35. 2100 3s Lipo $75, 5 micro servos $75, micro Rx $70

    I'm up to $300 and I don't even have a charger or a spare battery yet.. When I'm all done it's up to $425

    Maybe I'm having a hard time getting over my existing supply of standard servos and equipment..

    For the same $425 I could order a Nitro Models 90" P-38 and 2 tower .75 glow motors.

    Somehow I can't convince that wife that $200 (lipos and charger) of that is good for any future electric.
    She'll just point to my Blade CP I never fly because it's always to windy around here to fly the thing.

    Where am I going with this? Nowhere I guess.. I'd like to try electrics but I'm unwilling to buy more support equipment right now.

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspi... - 2/2/2007 7:26:48 PM   
    Super Sabre



    Posts: 37
    Joined: 10/4/2006
    From: new york, NY, USA
    Status: offline     		I fly both. Electric fuel for the park, and liquid fuel for the club. No need to criticize someone else's flying preferences as far as I'm concerned. Electric parkflyers have brought so many new people into the hobby, in the long run we all benefit by more items being manufactured, as well as lower costs. I read somewhere that Tower Hobbies reported that more than 50% of their R/C sales were electric in 2005. I have no way to confirm this information.

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspi... - 2/18/2008 4:00:28 AM   
    UkerDuker



    Posts: 905
    Joined: 12/30/2003
    From: Hendersonville, TN, USA
    Status: offline     		Somehow I feel some "slight of hand" when it comes to electrics. Allow me to first say, you fly what you fly. If you prefer one aspect (gas, glow, or electric) then this is your choice. Lately, my sale fliers from Tower and H9 have more electric planes than glow. I prefer a glow engine to anything else. THis is my choice and I recognize this. I do feel that electrics have been a huge "push" lately. I could be wrong, but judging from the advertising, I might be spot-on.

    Personally, I am sticking with glow. Everyone has reasons to justify their positions, but it is a personal opinion. I'm not going out to buy all new electric motors, speed controllers, and associated batteries, plus the assocaited chargers. It would be financially impractical. I enjoy this hobby as well as the next guy, but I selected one form of propulsion, and I will live with this choice.

    I used to bag on guys who only flew ARFs. Then I realized than we are all doing the same thing. We fly what we can fly, we build what we can build. I had an honest change of heart.

    As for gas, glow or electric, choose what you like. I use what I prefer. As for the distributors, they will push whatever they can to make the bottom line, MONEY!. I just wish all aspects of this hobby would get equal representation.

    Mike

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspi... - 2/18/2008 4:29:05 AM   
    Big_Bird



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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: UkerDuker

    I just wish all aspects of this hobby would get equal representation.

    Mike

    Why? What ever is hottest at the time gets the most play. It's the nature of the hobby. Why should manufacturers spend their limited advertising dollars on planes that are not selling. Electric is hot. I fly 90% giant scale and 10% electric.

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    RE: who is sick of the electric power craze???? conspi... - 3/10/2008 10:06:18 AM   
    Stickbuilder