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New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/17/2006 11:43:12 PM   
Bubba in NV


 

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I got tired of trying to make my Blade CP fly. Spent more time rebuilding it than flying it. I replaced it with a 22e about 2 weeks ago. Wish I had got the 22e to begin with. Flew good out of the box. Went through and tightened everything and adjusted the blades a bit. It flies very well now. Better than the CP ever did. I am still a beginner and can fly a Honeybee fixed pitch and several of the coaxial helos I have with no problems now.

I like the 22e. I wanted another tail motor helo and couldn't decide between the Night Ranger ofr 22e. After I found out and was told by so many of you guys that the Night Ranger and 22e are twins, I opted for the 22e and got it on EBAY for $97 brand new from RC and Me. Those El Paso Texas boys are great. I gave $219 for the Blade Cp. The Night Ranger goes for $219 too. I have also flown all the different CP blades I have on the 22e and it still flies well. (the unbreakable JCS blades work very well also)

I have gone through about 20 battery charges now (stock nmh) and it flies better each time as I get used to it.

I do not want to hear any Walkera bashing or any other brand bashing if you have never had one of those brands. Yes I would like to have one of those high dollar T Rex's or such, but I am learning, I will crash, I expect to crash. On a total destruction for $97 I can have a NEW replacement if I need to. The 22e was $121 delivered to the door with a few replacement parts included.

I got the Walkera 36 as something I want to graduate to some day. But with 50-60-mph winds lately I have to settle for in the house, which I can fly the honeybee and smaller ones, or the garage for hover practice. The 22e is fine, only have tried it in idle up mode twice. No problems there either. The 36 is still scary to me for close quarter hovering, but it does hover fine in a 10 foot square space.

For flying around in the house I like my Lama and Blade CX equally. I have hours on both of them. I put the aluminum head on the CX and a aluminum head for the CX on the esky happy baby. Its just a set of landing skids with 2 motors and blades. Its fun also. It was about $70 on Ebay.

I still think the fixed pitch Honeybee is a great first helo for outside.

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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/18/2006 3:18:11 AM   
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bubba,

do you mean to tell me that those jcs plasti blades fit on the stock 22e blade grips and flies well with them??!!??!!!

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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/18/2006 7:25:16 PM   
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Bubba,

I have yet to lay eyes on a 22E. If it is, as many have said, identical or close to identical to the Venom Night Ranger 3D, I agree with you, it will fly circles around a Blade CP.

Enjoy your new machine!

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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/18/2006 8:23:26 PM   
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I Liked the 22e so much I bought the company ......... Well I bought two from a supplier on ebay along with a 36 and when i informed him the second 22e was shipped with a broken skid and missing allen screw in the head and loose parts he sent me a free 3rd 22e so I now have three and after some tinkering they have all been airborn with No major problems except the 2nd one where I forgot to remove the blades and check the holders were tight and when I spooled it up the blade and holder detached and the head exploded !!!
Luckily it all went back together with the exception of a damaged foamy :-)

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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/19/2006 5:49:39 AM   
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bubba,

do the jcs plasti blades work on the stock 22e blade grips??

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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/20/2006 5:53:05 PM   
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Ooooooops...

Sorry its been so long between posts, havent been in here in a while...

Lets see...

The ONLY difference between a 22e and a Venom Ranger 3d is the color and decals. Thats it! I have parts with both the Walkera and Venom labels on them. NO DIFFERENCE....

Yes the Blade CP blades works on the 22e. The chord is wider and the head is a tad thicker but I have not had a problem. Im still learning myself... but the blades didnt seem to make nay difference except you get a little mor lift at lower RPM, but I would assume at a cost in battery time.

I wish I dould find a CNC head for it. I break things just trying to fine tune it. (Old fumbling fingers)....

I am waiting on a new head rocker. tried to fly it without bell hiller set up and it didnt like it. So I have new parts coming from RC and Me.
Those El Paso guys are good about getting you stuff.

I paid $97 for the 22e on thier ebay site.

Dont get me wrong about the Blade CP. I just got tired of working on it. I got over 30 full battery flights hoovering and doing the back and forth stuff inside a very large building. I was NEVER able to do that with he CP. The part that got broke, I BROKE it trying to remove a link from a ball. I need the link/ball pliers because of my LARGE fumbling fingers I guess. But I do not know where to get a pair.

I have a Henoeybee 2 fixed pitch that is also a pleasure to fly and Idont know how many fights I have on it. I have 8 nmh batteries that will work on it and I have gone through all of them in a single flying session dozens of times so far.

Someday I hope I will be able to actually fly one of these things. At least Ican go longer between bad crashes now. But it is nice to be able to go complete battery charges and not crash or have a hard landing. Its true... practice, practice, practice.

I do not believe the thoery about lots of practice on your FMS simulator helps that much. I can fly the dragonfly sim inverted, around land, take off, and not crash. The sim is way too easy, even with advanced variables going.

ANyway....

My Walkera 36 hoovers yell and is also stable. But I am not ready for it yet.

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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/23/2006 4:12:34 PM   
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I am also looking at the 22E and noticed you can get it for a good price on E-bay. My question is, is this heli good for a newbie heli pilot? I do plenty of nitro rc cars and have some plane experience along with good mechanical/building skills. Would this be a good starter helicopter? Also, is this something you can fly in a large backyard in calm weather or even indoors in a large room? Many thanks for your help and input

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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/24/2006 4:59:08 AM   
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I'm a brand spanking new heli pilot, and although I've had some minor glitches with it (had to resolder a servo wire) it's been a good bird. Try and follow RADDS rotary school and you'll be better off for it. I had three crashes in mine at first, but now I've gone through about 7 battery charges without incident since following the lessons.

Most definitely something you can fly in your backyard and indoors once you gain good control, and you get a good bang for your buck.

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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/25/2006 12:30:10 PM   
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The 22E RC helicopter is not bad for its low price. But the quality of the Walkera electronics is not as good as the Blade CP or ESky. So it is very important to pay attention on the temperatue of the electronics (You can refer to this reference guide).

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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/25/2006 1:57:18 PM   
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I agree with Deflyer
the walkera electronics are notorious for failure....but I wish their airframes had an equal but opposite reputation. I had a 35 loved it! Heard that the 22e was the same as the NR3d but better....so I picked one up...IT IS AWESOME! I'm using my own electronics, but the airframe is so stable! I have an old century 4200kv lightning brushless motor originally designed for the hummingbird in it...the headspeed is crazy!

I'm aslo using a cirrus micro gyro..not a big fan of piezo rates...since I'm spoiled with HH, but I plan on throwing in an align hh soon!


I to bought from rcandme.....his shipping is fast and his CS is great...2 things that will keep him in business!

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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/25/2006 6:25:46 PM   
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The 4n1's from esky/eflite are notorius for burning up quickly also. Just go to any heli forum and you will see.

I don't know why people keep saying esky/eflite electronics are better when both walkera and esky/eflite electronics are manufactured by the same company Zen Hua in China. Whats funny is I never had a glitch with my 22E-Z, but had glitches all the time with my esky HB CP2

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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/25/2006 6:32:24 PM   
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good to know!

Seems like you only hear the bad stuff!

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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/26/2006 2:57:54 PM   
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I just bought a 22E off eBay for the equivalent of $107, took it out of the box and hovered it in the garage. Too little room to do anything else. Outstandingly presented......wiring etc. well laid out, I checked the blades for balance and CoG and were as near perfect as it gets and unless something breaks it is fantastic. It just flies right.
Has anyone hooked up the main battery to a 12v charger? I want to use my own delta peak charger but haven't gotten round to cutting wiring yet.


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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/26/2006 3:02:23 PM   
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they have a weird 2nd positive wire...I forgot the term, but you can't charge it on a normal charger as is...you have to rewire the pack....I fried one trying

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RE: New Walkera 22e... I love it!!!!! Goodby Blade CP - 4/26/2006 5:25:24 PM   
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I noticed the two reds. I assumed the two reds were common - with one used for the incoming charge and the other for the outgoing current to the motor, black remaining -ve in both situations. The wall charger delivers 20volts! I was going to hook up to the red and black that the wall charger inputs to. If you fried one did you take it apart to see the wiring?

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