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AMA E Membership(Poll added)
I think that the AMA proposal is a good idea
  32% (20)
I think that this proposal is a bad idea and should not happen.
  59% (37)
I don't know what to think.
  8% (5)


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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/22/2006 3:44:36 PM   
MrMike



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50% wrote ...
However, this idea is crap and will only result in spending more money and dividing the membership over it.

Agree, although I simply answered Ms. Hager's email with "No" and "No" answers to her questions. My worry is that a tiered approach will proliferate and members active in other segments of the hobby perceived as "higher" risk (by opinion, not fact) will end up paying higher dues.

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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/22/2006 3:54:11 PM   
Chris-_-Memphis



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Status: offline 		Thanks but NO THANKS ama....i have homeowners... thats all thats needed

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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/22/2006 5:22:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: the-plumber


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ORIGINAL: ira d
I dont feel special fields need to be created for park flyers there is no reason they
cant use existing sites also there is no fair way to enforce speed and weight
restrictions that I can see.


So, ignoring the enforcement problem, you believe "park flyers" who pay 50% dues should be allowed to fly at existing chartered club sites ?


Though the notion would provoke ridicule at AMA HQ, members of some existing chartered clubs might be capable of making their own decisions as to who should be allowed to fly at their club sites.

Abel

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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/22/2006 6:48:59 PM   
crownvic



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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/22/2006 11:33:32 PM   
ira d


 

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ORIGINAL: the-plumber


quote:

ORIGINAL: ira d
I dont feel special fields need to be created for park flyers there is no reason they
cant use existing sites also there is no fair way to enforce speed and weight
restrictions that I can see.


So, ignoring the enforcement problem, you believe "park flyers" who pay 50% dues
should be allowed to fly at existing chartered club sites ?
quote:




Yes I do think they should use existing club sites, the idea behind paying less is
because the will have less ins coverage.

also it will take a lot of time and be very costly to develop other sites.


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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/23/2006 2:28:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		At the club sites where I fly, you have AMA insurance or you don't fly.

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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/23/2006 1:19:17 PM   
STLPilot


 

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Status: offline 		Obviously they are asking the wrong people. Why ask current AMA members? They should be test marketing this for people just entering the hobby.

This is not much different then what the FAA did for sport pilot ticket and it seemed to work out just fine.

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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/23/2006 2:12:53 PM   
Chris-_-Memphis



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ORIGINAL: Jim Thomerson

At the club sites where I fly, you have AMA insurance or you don't fly.



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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/23/2006 2:27:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		If its in the lease agreement they can. I'm not a AMA fan but our site is private property the guy lets us fly there due to the site owner insurance offered by the AMA. This is about the AMA for once asking us what we think and to me is a step in the right direction. Since your not a member why do you even care?

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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/23/2006 3:21:20 PM   
Chris-_-Memphis



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Status: offline 		im a member of the ama.. ive always had ama since i started in r/c ... not a fan but ill play by the rules... except this parkflyer deal.. i got into foamies/electrics for the very reason if i wanna step outside and go to small field after work and fly i can... its nice not to load up my gas/glow planes and drive to the field... i can throw a plane in the truck and drive 1/2 - 1mile down the road and fly...

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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/23/2006 4:32:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		The AMA is simply trying to bolster their membership ranks by offrering the limp carrot of "less cost" out to the park flyers. IT WON'T WORK. Park flyers do not join the AMA for one simple reason - THEY DON'T WANT TO JOIN! Cost and insurance (or lack of) has absolutely nothing to do with it. They don't want the restrictions AMA membership would put on their flying.

For those of you who don't know, the idea of special membership/insurance for special groups has already been run up the flagpole by the AMA several times. No one has ever saluted. In the past, lower rates/insurance has been proposed for glider/sailplane pilots, pylon racers (higher), and a couple of other SIGs. The AMA DID manage to get a weight limit/insurance rider for large planes and a special license to fly jets is also required now.

I'll be one voting against it and recommending my DVPs do the same.

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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/23/2006 4:33:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		How about this! Raise electric dues, lower open dues (split the difference) go to every other month on Mag. keep coverage the same for all. The increased membership would make up the difference in what they (AMA) pay out for Mag. and insurance?

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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/23/2006 5:45:13 PM   
Chris-_-Memphis



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Status: offline 		IF the ama would provide something other than "secondary" insurance maybe the "nothing but parkflyer" guys would bite... IF something happens and there is a claim.. your homeowners insurance pays first.. if you dont have homeowners then ama pay first...of course you could just contact your homeowners and get it written out of you policy that way AMA has to foot the bill

note: if something happens when i am flying my gas/glow planes my homeowners wont foot the bill the ama will.. which makes me and my insurance company happy.. if there is a claim on your homeowners your rates go up...

what about the guys w. renters insurance??? what if they have a claim against them what happens? anyone know... i looked in all the ama stuff i have but i cant find anything on that

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RE: AMA E Membership - 4/23/2006 5:58:27 PM   
mrblucor


 

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Status: offline 		Hello All,
I've read through every post on this thread and agree with most of the comments. When I received the email from AMA, my first reaction was anger! It made me feel like a second class member. I think it's a bad idea for them to try to split the pack. I joined AMA so I could fly at the local flying field. It's a nice field and close to my house as well. My electrics are range from light and slow to fast and heavy. I enjoy the local club and have received much good advise from the members for plane set-ups, flying tips, and building tricks. Half the fun of the hobby for me is to share ideas leading to improved preformance of my next project.

I've had my run-ins at the club with certian members who think electrics don't count. The club president once asked me to fly away from the flight line over in the corner (standing in the weeds no less!). NO WAY! I pay full membership and won't accept second class status. I told him, I don't need the AMA and I don't need the club. Many members rallied behind me and told the prez, he was being unfair (jerk). The story has a happy ending. I'm still with the club, the prez is now my friend, he flies electric more than his ga