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Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 4/23/2006 4:56:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is the Walkera/Dragonfly 22e a decent helicopter for a beginner? I'd really only like to spend around $150 to get started into the hobby? I'd just fly it occasionally on the weekends and tinker with it at nights. I have rc nitro car experience and some airplane flying experience. Overall is this a decent beginner heli or is there something better out there I should be looking at? Thanks for all the help or advice you can give.

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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 4/23/2006 5:55:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello I like the counter rotating blade stlye choppers, I have two Co Co lamas and they fly great, I bought them online for $ 98.00 plus shipping. Take a look at the add they have at Hobby Lobby, when the flyer was able to put down the controller on a table with it hovering that sold me. Also I have flown outside and it will climb almost out of sight. But they do not have to much forward speed, they make up for in handling. All I read about is the other brands with battery and other problems but for me I have almost a hundred flights indoors this winter,and very little damage if any. Take a look at my gallery, Seaya.

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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 4/23/2006 7:44:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Any other opinions or options from anybody? Thanks.

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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 4/23/2006 10:19:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you are begiiner, you should get the esky lama 2 - as it is the good beginner rc helicopter
- Lama 2 flying video

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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 4/26/2006 5:56:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I always recommend to beginners that the larger the heli the better so something the size of a Raptor 30 would be sooo much easier to learn with and cheap on parts for fixing after crashing though bigger is costlier. Also, I am convinced that battery time limits getting to grips with stick learning. Having said that, the 22E isn't at all bad and if you were to insist on having this size bird then why not! At least it is fairly inexpensive.

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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 4/30/2006 3:21:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I'm still between this 22e and the Coco Lama, dual rotor type heli's. For the Walkera 22e how long is the flight time and time to recharge the battery? Also, what typically goes wrong and what replacement parts should I buy? Who is the best retailer to buy parts from also? What are the best initial upgrades to buy in order to get longer flight times and a more reliablie heli? Many thanks for the input

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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 5/3/2006 3:06:28 PM   
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the 22E is a good heli but for begginers it will be mush harder for you to hover.. stock battery and motor will only last 5 mins flying time and you will more likely to upgrade to lipo/brushless to make it beter and stable in flight... dual rotor like the Esky Lama and Hirobo are really easy to fly.. it last around 10 mins flight but it is only good indoors.. it is worst outside specially if there is a small gust of wind... If you really want to start this hobby i bet you will be learning more if you get the 22E CP

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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 5/3/2006 11:40:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the info. I think I will get the 22e and go ahead and get the LiPo battery. Are there any spare parts I should go ahead and order? Parts that typically break when learning to fly or fail often I figure I'd go ahead and order to have spare's around.

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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 5/4/2006 1:03:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		For the 22E the best spares that you must always have are the main blades and the tail motor.. main foam blades get chip off easily and break in every hit it encounters.. the tail motor tend to burn out when using lipo since you are usign the heli longer.. heat tend to fry the metal fingers that connects to the motor armateur... best that you get heatsinks for the tail nd the main motor.. this gives it extra life....

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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 5/4/2006 2:09:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		The heatsinks you are talking about, can you buy those are can you make them yourself? I'm going to have to go back to my thermodynamic and heat conductivity classes if I have to make my own heat sinks. Can you fill me in on these heat sinks? Thanks.

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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 5/4/2006 7:57:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		You can just buy them they come cheap anyway it will be harder for you to make one.. it cost only around $2.00 I got mine for only $1.65 and $1.50 for my tail heatsink... its better than always buying a $6 N30 tail motor as replacement due to worn out busted easily...

you can get the GWS heatsinks they provinde the tail and the Main motor.. or you can try searching for the Blade CP this also comes cheap..

If you want you can make one also.. but you will be having to machine, grind, lathe aluminum bars to create the desired shape and dimension..

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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 5/4/2006 11:27:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Besides the heat sinks and main blades, what are the other typical things I should stock up on (swash blades, gears, fly-bars, etc....) Thanks for all your help.

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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 5/5/2006 12:53:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		most of the time you will be breaking the blades since this are very fragile and easily broken.. if you had a bad crash the tail boom is also that fragile most of odd crashes tend to get a boom strike if you somewhat have a bad landing... tail props also get broken easily in bad landings... the main gear and the tail gear are somewhat not that easily broken not unless you use brushless with high Kv which tend to eat down you gear tooth.. but this rarely happens..

have spares for the ff....

Main Blades
Tail rotor Blade
Tail Motor
Tail Boom
servos.. walkera servos suck.. get worn out servo motor easily

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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 5/6/2006 4:38:54 AM   
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I just broke the tail boom yesterday!!!

I had adjust the link between the set of linkage and the pitch as to gain easier lift.
It worked and it lifted more quicker than I expected.
So I landed it... hard...
But got the spare parts with a very cheap price in China!


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RE: Walkera 22e for a Beginner? - 5/6/2006 10:12:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Ippie

Ha!
I just broke the tail boom yesterday!!!

I had adjust the link between the set of linkage and the pitch as to gain easier lift.
It worked and it lifted more quicker than I expected.
So I landed it... hard...
But got the spare parts with a very cheap price in China!




how much did you get you boom? the last time I got one cost me $7 plus SH this aluminum booms tend to break
easily every bad fall definitley will have a boom strike.... good thing I can get like 9mm aluminum rods here cost very
cheap around 10cents a foot so one tail boon will be only around 12 cents.. very cheap... the only expensive thing to break are the porps... those cost a fortune....

you adusted the pitch of the main blades.. increasing this tend to produce more lift but in return will also drop the headspeed no unless you also adjusted the PZT/PLT setting of you TX to increase the headspeed to create a better mixing of the throttle and pitch.. did you also repalce you motor? no problem if you are using a powerful brushless... this can compensate with the adjusted pitch you made...

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