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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 6/30/2006 10:53 PM   
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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 6/30/2006 11:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tom and Roy, sorry I was just trying to help I have been flying all sorts of planes of water so I thought I might be able to help.
Good Luck Guy's I hope you get your planes sorted out I know how much of a pain it can be fly a plane that does not perform like it should.
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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 7/11/2006 1:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just looked at the Nitroplanes site and you know, there are NO pictures of their Seawind actually flying! There is only one picture where the plane is "off the water" and its 45 degrees nose-up, the prop is stopped, and you can see the boots of the guy standing behind it that just threw it for the picture...

Looks like something to stay away from to me...

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 7/19/2006 10:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've seen the site a few times and nothing has changed. No flight pictures, no manual, no video, no response, no nothing! Strange way of doing business. I'll keep my money thank you very much.

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 7/30/2006 5:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds like that is the way to go . I purchased a gp seawind and tried it out ,the bottom came apart , on landing she bounced like one does once in a while and basically and the sides seperated from the bottom. I consulted GP and they said that because I bounced the plane they concidert that a hard landing and would not replace it. By the way all the formers shatterd .Now we all have bounced on the runway once in a while and none of the planes ever came appart like that. I also find that the construction method on the GP plane is not up to an exceptable level. If you notice the main hull is made of three parts, two sides and the bottom and that is where the weakness is . So before you buy check it out thurrowly. Thats all I have to say. By the way that seawind cost us over$400.00 in canada.

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 7/30/2006 12:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've had my NP Seawind on the table for a few days, just staring at it. The manual, in plain language, sucks. Basicly it tells you where to put the wings, tail peices, etc. But being a modeler for many years, I already knew that. The concerns I have are the canopy, not sure how I will handle that, and things like the wing mounts on a tube, and a 12 inch rod in the rear of the wing, and then a bolt into the wing from the inside, just behind the wing tube. I haven't figured out how I will get my hand or tools to tighten the bolt after it has been started! One review I read said it took 22ozs of lead in the nose to balance it.
The other problem of both the NP and the GP is they are so hard to take off from the water. One guy stated it is considerably easier if you drop flaps on take-off, and I would suppose use ailerons to keep wings level. I'm thinking of using a G90(which I already have), but if I haden't already blown my wad on the plane, I've wanted to try the RCV 91 four-stroke. It would be a great fit.
We're having a float fly in a couple of weeks, but I doubt I'll have it ready by then. Lots of flying to do. Good luck with yours, and I think we did get the better plane. Hope it proves out.

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 8/17/2006 2:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I built the Great Planes-Seawind last winter and flew it 6 times out of 15 atempts to get it airbourne. It bounced every time. On the last flight it bounced in the air about 3 feet high and slammed back to the water doing a lot of damage. I gave up and purchased the Nitro model. I just recieved my Nitro-Seawinds. There are no instructions at all in the box. I tried calling and faxing Nitro with no answer. Does anyone have a set of instructions they could e-mail me. My e-mail is dalecamp@epix.net . It would be appreciated. Thank you, Dale Campbell

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 10/21/2006 7:22 PM   
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Hi , I tried to test fly mine and found it tail heavy taking of from land, and it wanted to snap violently. What C.G. did you end up using, and elevator throws?
Comparing the CG on the GP model to the nitro planes there is a hugh difference. GP states 26 mm to the nitro models of 90mm and GP states not to deveate from their location.

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 10/21/2006 7:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		mine was pretty tailheavy too (Nitroplanes) but I mounted the rudder servo on the rear hatch, not in the main wing area like the manual calls for. I added about 6 oz. of lead in the tip of the nose to balance it out. Let's just say the first flight was interesting... scared me to death and I'm amazed it is still in one piece. It's much more flyable now that it's balanced better.

Flaperons are VERY helpful for takeoff if you have them configured.

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 11/10/2006 4:57 AM   
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Did you use the Cof G as they called for in the book, or did you move it to another location

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 11/10/2006 4:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not sure what you mean by Cof G... I assume center of gravity?
I found it a bit tricky to balance, the first flight I *thought* I had it balanced per the instructions, but after it landed it turned out to be significantly tail heavy, that was why I added the 6 oz. of lead in the front. It is now balanced per the instructions at the recommended CG point, or maybe just slightly back from it (maybe 1/8" or so).

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 12/14/2006 3:20 PM   
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i've been keeping track of the two Seawinds on the market; I have the GP kit in progress. I did notice you set the CG at 900 mm (back from the LE). Comparing that with my kit, it's way too far. That I think is the reason for your problems. The GP CG is only less than two inches. strange but that's where GP said it should go. I hope this helps/
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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 1/5/2007 5:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		How's the Nitroplanes Seawind working out for all you intrepid flyers? How are the take off and landing characteristics? I've just ordered one and I'd like to keep up with your progress and hopefully have something to eventually share re my experiences.

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 1/5/2007 1:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've not completed the GP Seawind yet; too busy flying. The weather here is remarkable for Dec./Jan. Reminiscant of Spring. However I want to pass along a few obversations about the GP version. I'm using a standard servo for throttle- there's plenty of space. The recommended distance oof the prop nut from the firewall is about 1/8" too much. I had to remove the engine and mount and re-drill it. Also. those servo cable tubes; don't need em'. Just let them dangle down and grab them. I WILL however drill a hole in the tip of the fin and install an antenna tube. I'll be flying from salt water so my Rx and battery are going in a 'Strong Box'- the larger one. i'm going to mount it as a far forward as I can get it to avoid a lot of nose weight. What additional weight I need will be in the Strong Box as well. The recommended 36" servo extensions are way too much; used 24" and they work fine. I should have it ready soon, I'm loath to go swimming for it before Spring. For me the water has to be at least 78F.

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 1/5/2007 2:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I also have both Seawinds. The Nitro model flies just like the Great Planes model. They are both very sensive on elevator control. The Nitro model has better wing tips and gets off water easier. But they can supply no parts if you damage it. I bounced one of my landings and it dove into the water and blew the canopy to pieces. That was last summer and they still can not provide me with a replacement. So I had to glue the old one back together. Set your elevator for short travel to make it less sensitive. On your Great Planes model velcrow a set of pontoons to wing tips to keep your wings from dipping under water on take off. Have fun, Dale Campbell

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 1/5/2007 2:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's been by experience that sensitive elevator is an indication of the CG being too fat art.; bringing it forward can't hurt. Yuo can always east it back.

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 1/5/2007 2:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dale Campbell

I also have both Seawinds. The Nitro model flies just like the Great Planes model. They are both very sensive on elevator control. The Nitro model has better wing tips and gets off water easier. But they can supply no parts if you damage it. I bounced one of my landings and it dove into the water and blew the canopy to pieces. That was last summer and they still can not provide me with a replacement. So I had to glue the old one back together. Set your elevator for short travel to make it less sensitive. On your Great Planes model velcrow a set of pontoons to wing tips to keep your wings from dipping under water on take off. Have fun, Dale Campbell


The CG is probably too far back and/or too much throw, none of the control surfaces on these planes should be very sensitive.

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 1/5/2007 2:39 PM   
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i'm going to mount it as a far forward as I can get it to avoid a lot of nose weight.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Take a look at this picture. That is a 22oz chunk o' lead in the nose next to the battery.

And do you see that grey area the arrows are pointing to? That is buckshot and epoxy. Now granted, I omitted installing the nose gear which was pretty heavy, but the fact remains:

1- This sucker needs a BUNCH of noseweight regardless of where you mount things and

2- It doesn't matter. Even WITH all that weight the Seawind flies great!

One last note - We are discussing the GP Seawind in a thread about the Nitroplanes version. So let's get it back on track.

How are you guys with the NP version liking it? IS it difficult to get off the water like the GP is?

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 1/5/2007 2:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good grief! That is a lot of lead. We'll see how much I need. Getting side-tracked is easy; sorry. But it all started with a comparrison of the CG points between the two versions.

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 1/8/2007 4:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for your responses. Is the manual illustrated and clear on the instructions for building? Is it true that you cannot get parts for this plane? I've ordered mine then I came across this forum and noticed that initially some were mentioning these issues.

I've ordered the Supertigre G90 with the silent muffler, the Futuba 7CAF radio, and a Master Airscrew 12x8 3-Blade G/F Nylon Propeller. Any comments or advice?

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 1/8/2007 1:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		My GP Sea Wind has a great instruction manual; as usual. Regards Nitro planes, it's a case of you get what you pay for. Goon luck.Your choice of engine/radio seems OK but look out for the CG. If it's too far aft, the elevator will be real touchy, and by the way, the GP version comes with three bladed props AND a spinner. Good luck.

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 1/8/2007 1:35 PM   
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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 1/8/2007 1:39 PM   
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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 1/8/2007 1:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I own both Seawinds, and believe me you need a lot of lead in nose, to get CG were it needs to be. Take a good look at both planes with that massive tail way behind CG. That is the reason you need a lot of lead to counter act on that. The fuselage is very short for the size of that long wing which makes the elevator very sensitve. Just make your elevator travel short. On all Nitro planes I have purchased, you can not get any spare parts. They are cheap, well built and fly well, but the instructions stink. What else can I say. Dale

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RE: Nitroplanes Seawind - 1/8/2007 1:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		10-4 on that, a short tail will do that for sure. I think I'll make a plug and mold for the very front of the nose and melt some lead sinkers over my stove.

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