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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/5/2006 4:01:48 AM   
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Clearance is OK. If you are using stock mufflers, obviously you need to cut the cowl get the pipes out, All you need to do is cut a bigger hole around the exhaust. I would also recommend baffling especially if it gets hot where you are. If you are using canisters, just do the baffling, the tunnel made for cans is open enough to get air on the pipe but you need to remove the covering. Look at pic AM30 in current manual. If you are using cans, you do need to cut the covering of pipe tunnel out. Let me also double check with Quique but I think covering needs to be removed. There is going to be lots of heat in that pipe tunnel!

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/5/2006 4:07:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		What is the clearance with a 3W? I am actually going to order aluminum standoffs when I start on mine so if I can get it the same as the 3W I'd love to get that size standoff.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/5/2006 4:21:00 AM   
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Status: online 		thanks reza, i am using stock DA mufflers no cans. with stock mufflers should there be any need to cut the covering on the tunnel? also i have been told that on the planes with big round cowls that you need more clearance between the cowl and the prop but if you and QQ say it's cool then i'm ok with it.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/5/2006 5:13:47 AM   
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No you don't have to cut the covering on the tunnel at all. Just make bigger holes for stock muffler. I guess you have enough clearance but will double check with Quique also. Clearance should be enough for a good prop effeciency.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/6/2006 6:04:46 PM   
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Back to clearance again. Is your wood standoffs 3/4"? I looked at another plane and it should stick out more like 1". Can you make sure that your wood stand offs are .75"? I want to get back what I said, after double checking another plane, your clearance seems a little small.

Please keep me inform after measurements and double check your measurements too.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/7/2006 1:10:04 AM   
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Status: online 		reza, the blocks that came with the kit are 3/4" so i have made some 1 1/4 to install that will put me at just over 1" out and all should be OK.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/7/2006 1:13:30 AM   
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1" is just fine by making it longer you make the plane a little more nose heavy, therefore battery needs to go further back. Your personal decision on that.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/9/2006 5:08:38 AM   
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Status: online 		well i got to maiden my new love yesterday. got 4 flights and this is a awsome airplane. it will need a few adjustments but for the first flights it was rock solid at everything i threw at it, flat spins, blenders, walls, waterfalls, harriers, houvers, knife edge was good but needs some mix. with a little work this plane will do it all with style.

it came in at 27.5lb with

DA 100 stock pipes
Vess 27B prop
JR 8611A's all around
SWB rudder tray
2 4800 Fromeco's
1 2400 Fromeco
3 regs
3 Fromeco Badger switches
and Ritchard my helmet head

it's so much better than the AM35% yak i just lost. i thought it was a good flying plane just to heavy and it hurt to see it go down but flying the QQ 102 Yak has made me feel alot better.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/9/2006 1:48:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Randy,
Great news! I haven't even started on mine yet - I have had family in town for a week so maybe I can get some things done on it next week.
I'm now debating stock mufflers versus cannisters seeing as yours came out at 27.5 lbs. I think its feasible that you could get it down another half pound at least with 2400 mah fromecos and no wheel pants and a couple of other things. Glad to hear it turned out well!!

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/9/2006 3:45:22 PM   
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Thank you for updates. I'm glad you are enjoying the plane and if it is flying as good as you wanted to. Therefor, there is no reason to change your set up at all. To those who are really into weight savings, I should say each Fromeco 4800 weighs 6.6 oz, Badger switches are around 1 oz each. With either one 4800 or 2-2400 you can get the weight down easily another 1/2 lb. With more consideration you can get it to 26 1/2-26 3/4. I am putting one together with full canister set up and Duralite Batteries and will let you know what would be the weight once I'm done.

As long as you have a good feeling on the plane you are flying and it feels light, pull outs are with Authority, seeking ways to loose more weight is just not necessary. Remember the new generations have stiffer and wider gears along with more mods which customers asked for. Quique's GenI Yak with canisters weighs 26lb but he uses only one battery and no power box. Everything is really simple on his plane.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/9/2006 4:37:11 PM   
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Status: online 		reza you are right, i had the batteries from my other plane but there is no need for 2 4800's on this plane. also i', using the SWB servo tray with the pully system, i didn't weigh it but it adds alot of weight. the vess prop is a little heaver than a Menz and could use lighter wheels. getting this plane to 26.5 would be no problem but a 800 ' it flys light and i'm a happy guy.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/10/2006 12:38:47 AM   
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I have the Gen 1 as well, I have a 3w 106 and canisters on it along with two Duralite 4000 and the new small powerbox from Duralite, carbon fiber spinner & prop & 8611A's and it came out at 27.5 lb. I have spent allot of time setting this plane up properly with the help of a very exsperenced pilot (Ivan Kristensen) and it is a FANTASTIC flying plane in all situations. Guy's do yourself a favour and take the time to set it up properly (throws, expo, CG,etc.) you will not regret it. I have 95 flights on mine and I love it. Is there any weight change on the Gen 2 version? I am ordering anouther one!!

Thanks for the support. Kevin.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/10/2006 1:18:17 AM   
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I'm glad you like the airplane. New ones have mods stated on page 1 of this thread. GenI is a little lighter. I agree with you on setting up the plane properly to get the best out of it. Right settings can make a huge difference. Thank you again for sharing info with us.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/14/2006 8:26:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am about to pull the trigger and order everything I need to complete this plane. It's at home so I can't check a couple of things so I wanted to ask.


  • Does the 102" actually have hard points? My 85" did not, it was balsa. I'm wondering because I'm trying to decide between rocket city style hardware and the dubro hardware.
  • Anyone have experience using the rocket city style hardware on this plane? I've noticed the dubro has more of a base on top of the screw. Even though the manual recommends just gluing the screws into the elevators and not going through the top of the covering I'm going to be a stickler about this feel more comfortable with something on the top. I believe searching through the big thread in the giant scale forums this means going to larger dubro control horn (part number 913), correct?
  • I am not a fan of mounting the throttle servo in the engine box. I know people do this and don't have any trouble. I understand ignitions these days are quieter also. However, I fly in a large city park with a model airfield. There are baseball, softball and soccer games going on at any given time during the weekend. I cannot, in good conscious, put a servo that close to an ignition module. So I have 2 options. flexible nyrod which really puts a damper on running cannisters or fiber optic servo extensions. Anyone have any ideas here? I am not looking for answers which say "I've mounted servos close to the engine, its fine." As I said, it is NOT an option for me - I am closed minded on the subject and nothing can sway me otherwise. I am looking for alternatives.


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