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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/19/2006 3:38:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Rezagh, I talked to Molly over email about an all white yak. She said the only one you guys had was Gen 1. I have not owned or flown a Yak only the WH Extra which did take a considerable amount of mixing for knife edge. Ok, so basically I would not have any wing issue, just a canopy mod to do and the landing gear will not be that great? I do see an advantage in wing bags and CF parts though. I appreciate your honesty and will give it much consideration tonight. If I go with the all white one do I just contact Kirby Customs for the graphic package? I may do it just because I have never flown a YAK. How long does it normally take to get the plane once I place my order?

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/19/2006 3:44:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		I got mine in 3 days - shipped on Wednesday (ordered Wed. morning), at the door on Friday. Since you're about 3 hours from me - I'd say the same time frame.
Sorry about a couple of misinformed parts of my last post.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/19/2006 3:51:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		No problem, I just want to dbl make sure this is what I want. I just sold my WH and have the cash in hand to order something to replace it. I would assume this plane being larger should fly ten times more smooth than the 50cc WH Extra did? That plane had some bad tendencies but I learned to fly through them. Would not harrier without spoileron mix, to much wing rock. I hope this Yak... having more wing area will be soild.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/19/2006 5:25:04 AM   
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I personally don't see a problem with GenI landing gear but you always can replace it with other after market gears if you find the need based on your flying. You can call Kirby for any custom graphics that you are interested. I normally don't like to make comparison of our planes with others but I will tell you that this Yak will fly superb. Harriers or any maneuvers will be just awesome. After couple of flights you will soon realize that plane is not limiting your piloting skills but also helping you fly better.
Good Luck on your decision,
Reza

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/22/2006 3:02:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Does anybody know the correct length of the cf wing tube for the gen1 planes. I bought an all white one (came in today) and the wings dont' meet the fuselage like they should. The tube is sliding in all the way on both wings. Anyone else have this trouble?

Also one of the tabs on the horizontal stab is a little messed up. Instead of being two pieces of wood thick it is only one. The other one on the same stab is fine so I would assume when bolted up it should hold.

Let me know about the wing tube.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/22/2006 3:07:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just for comparison, my Gen II wing tube is 39 3/8" long.

What is happening, is it not going in far enough or is it not butting against the inside of the fuselage tight enough?
On my 85", I had to trim a sliver (tiny tiny bit) of the balsa sheeting on the bottom side of one wing fuselage saddle. Later, I had the same trouble and had found while assembling I had dripped just a little epoxy in there and it was blocking it.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/22/2006 3:20:11 AM   
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can you compare the measurement with shakes. Gen I and II have the same size tube. As far as tab goes, it is OK but you can harden it with a layer or two of epoxy.
Your wings also should be OK, we've never had a problem with the length of tubes.

Keep me posted and thank you shakes for the measurement,
Reza
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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/22/2006 3:52:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just got it to work, mine was same 39 3/8, I had to sand a little on one end of the wing tube. One end would not hardly go in the wing at all and it must not have been bottoming out in the wing when I tried to join them earlier.

I will harden that up with epoxy. Thanks for quick reply guys!

I think I will like the look once I get my graphics package in from Dennis!! White just isn't appealing


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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/22/2006 4:00:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		well I though I did. Are the wings suppose to meet up all the way to the fuselage when look down in the fuse at the wingroots. I can get one side to touch the fuselage but not the other side it still likes a little more than an 1/8 of an inch to touch.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/22/2006 4:05:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, I think you have the same problem I had. I don't think its the tube, I think as the wing widens going into the saddle that the sheeting on the side might be too tight of a fit.
It needs to fit flush because those steel pins go in and you put the washer/o-ring and kotter pins in to hold the wing on. If its not flush, the wing could move around a little and not be held tight at the root.

Here is something to try. Take off the wing that fits in. Now, slide the wing tube out some on that end and see if you can get the wing you're having trouble with to go in flush. If it does not, its not the wing tube. If it does, might be something with the wing tube.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/22/2006 4:06:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here is the side that won't meet the fuselage. I can slide both wings back an forth not on and off the tube but the whole tube and wings slide back and forth. Picture included

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/22/2006 4:08:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Both wings will go flush without the tube. I will dbl check that, just a sec.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/22/2006 4:13:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Leave the tube on, just not all of the way in on the wing that won't go flush. If the tube is not in, the fit is hard to determine as correct.

Put the problem wing on the tube then start twisting the tube from the other side of the fuselage backing it out a little at a time (not completely out, maybe 1/8 of the way out so you know the tube isn't hitting the stop inside the wing - see if it will go in flush. If its not, can you look at the underside of the wing - toward the leading edge and see if its stopping. Also, feel along the foam to see if there is a drop of white glue on top and bottom.

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/22/2006 4:14:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes both wings will go flush without the tube. My tube is large around at one end than the other. Even after sanding a little to make that one end go into either wing. I think the tube is out of round!

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/22/2006 4:15:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think maybe the tube stopper on that wings is set a little off but it's easy to find out, if you don't push the tube all the way in, your wing bottoms with fuse, is that right?

Let me know.

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Reza

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RE: QQ-Yak 54 102" Generation II - 6/22/2006 4:16:02 AM   
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