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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/15/2006 3:12:34 PM   
Mister_Scary



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ORIGINAL: heli-john


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ORIGINAL: Mister_Scary

First of all I'd like to say thank you to "Hoverup" for his service to our country.

Now to the questions.....
I posted these in another thread before I found this one, but I am going to get one of these (on ebay) and would like to go ahead and order the parts I need to upgrade it to a brushless system.
Which make/model/kv size motor would be the most this heli can handle?

Which make/model/amps ESC is best to go with the new motor?

For example, I'm upgrading my DF60 to an Elf Hobby 4200kv outrunner and Elf Hobby 30A ESC with Walkera adapter.

Thanks.


Here's the copmplete quote. It's in there!!!!!


Dude!

Perhaps you just don't have a firm grasp on what a "quote" is.
If I quoted what I said in my above statement, it would say "I need to upgrade it to a brushless system". Mainly because that's what it actually says.

You "quoted" me as saying "I am going upgrade it to a brushless system" as if I had somehow reverted to a caveman form of broken english to communicate.

No big deal. I guess I shouldn't have even pointed it out.

Now go fly something!

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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/15/2006 3:37:25 PM   
Mister_Scary



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Status: offline 		Hey, Hoverup!

I was looking at the upgrade Hyperion battery you suggested and was wondering, how much flight time are you getting with it?

Also, isn't it the mAh of the battery that determines your length of flight?

Are you using that particular mAh because of size limits under the heli?

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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/15/2006 3:50:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		You might as well get the TP 480mah. The weight difference shouldn't be much and you will get longer flight time.

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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/15/2006 4:00:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll ignore the sarcasm and ask the question again - why do you want to upgrade/change/whatever to brushless?

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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/16/2006 12:33:22 AM   
Mister_Scary



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ORIGINAL: heli-john

I'll ignore the sarcasm and ask the question again - why do you want to upgrade/change/whatever to brushless?


Okay, I'll answer the question again......
Page 3 of this thread, post #72:
"I've always been a state of the art kind of guy when it comes to performance. Brushed RC motors are yesterday's inferior technology, in my opinion.

I am by no means putting down anyone who may prefer a brushed motor in their heli. To each their own."



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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/16/2006 2:48:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have been looking at this #52 for a friend that did quite a bit in Nitro Helis a couple of years back, and now wants something that He can use indoors.

I have seen on eHirobo, they offer a 800mah 7,4v 12C LiPo as additional batteries. Will those work or should I recommend another size/type for the original engine?

As for brushless that sounds interesting, but I wonder, can you also get a brushless for the tail?
I like Brushless because they have a better power/weight and typically are 10-30% more efficient, than brushed engines.
That they typically have a longer lifespan is also a big plus.

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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/16/2006 8:55:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		The reason I asked is that my 52 gives about 15 mins of flight time and at the moment is as good as it gets and doesn't need replacing though if I had had a naff one one from Walkera or had worn it out and had to change the motor I would probably go to brushless. However, as far as mine is concerned, it is great as it is.

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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/16/2006 4:11:43 PM   
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The reason I asked is that my 52 gives about 15 mins of flight time and at the moment is as good as it gets and doesn't need replacing though if I had had a naff one one from Walkera or had worn it out and had to change the motor I would probably go to brushless. However, as far as mine is concerned, it is great as it is.


Yes, that's sounds like some good flight time!
Forgive me if you've already told me, but what volt/mAh/current battery do you use?

I'll fly (soon to be) mine with it's stock motor until it gives out or starts to weaken. No sense in letting a good motor go to waste.

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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/16/2006 6:01:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have several Walkera #52 airframes and have yet to find a stock main motor that lasted more than 10 flights. This was my motivation for developing a simple mod to a BL main motor. Once you've done it you will never look back as you will end up with longer flight times and a noticeable difference in climb out power.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=541138&highlight=Walkera+%2352

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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/18/2006 4:04:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Do you know of any motors that Horizon sells that would work well in place of the Medusa one you used? I get a good discount on stuff from Horizon so I try to get the majority of my stuff from them.

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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/18/2006 6:20:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		How do you all get the pitch to move up smoothly? Mine will jump from 1 to almost 7 degrees moving the transmitter stick one click! This makes it imposibble to fly. It either sits on the ground, or shoots into the air. There is no happy medium. I have messed with all the settings , but have found no combination that helps. Is it possible to make this little guy fly well? I would love to use my Spekrtrum on this guy, but don't want to go to separates and a gyro. Also are there any replacement servos that are better than the Stock twitchy ones?

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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/18/2006 11:53:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		It will fly pretty decent. Its still a little jumpy though, not sure if that is just because of its size or if I can make it a little better. My throttle stick was very stiff when I first got the heli, I had to open up the transmitter and loosen it a bit. Now it is better, but not idea, the radio isn't super high quality. Also, make sure you turn your pitch down. My pitch is set at like the 10 0 clock position on the transmitter. Thats on the left knob when setting pitch. The right knob is in the 0 or 12 0 clock position. The servos should be fine, at least mines are decent enough to fly it around. Finally, try to get a pitch gauge on the thing just so you can get the blades at the same zero pitch and get zero pitch somewhat close to mid stick on the transmitter. And you need the transmitter in idle1 if you want to see the full pitch range.

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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/19/2006 2:04:16 AM   
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It looks like i have been trying to use the wrong knobs to do the adjustments. I have a pitch gauge, and can get 0 at mid stick, but as soon as i move the stick up one click, it goes to like 7 degrees. This is what I am trying to fix. Also is there any way to increase the head speed with the stock setup. Mine seems too slow, and bogs as soon as i go past mid stick. I have noticed that the more I use it the less glitches i get in the servos. I have been toying with the idea of using my spectrum reciever and radio, but running it into the stock 4 in 1 so I dont lose the gyro or mixing functions. I dont know if it will work, but I also dont see any reason why it would not.

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RE: Walkera No. 52 - Indoor 6Ch Helicopter - 10/19/2006 3:34:57 AM