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BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 5/22/2006 8:34:15 PM   
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Out of 3 planes i bought, 2 crash bad (total loss) because the design in some critical parts are weak and brakes, i reported this to Fliton and they were very indifferent and did not response professional, so i advise to the r/c planes comunity to be VERY CAREFULL with FLITON planes, because they brake in the air flying because the instrucction manual is missing some VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES, plus you'll loose the money you paid for it. they wont do nothing for the customer. bummer! =-(
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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 5/22/2006 11:40:39 PM   
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Somehow I smell troll, but.....


Fliton is one of the best arf kits out there. I've been very impressed with my Rogue3D. Build quality is excellent, it has the most flawless covering job of any arf Ive ever seen. The Rogue3D flys great. The only problems I've seen with the Fliton kits are pilots that slam them into the deck, and wonder why the landing gear breaks or try to fly a full throttle blender and wonder why the wing folds.

If you know your flying style is going to stress an airframe, why don't you beef it up BEFORE you fly instead of blaming the manufacturer after YOU break it?

Fliton makes very superior flying airplanes, that are extremely lightweight, and designed to fly very well within the limits they were designed for. Everyone said "...the landing gear is weak"...Sure is if you slam it into the runway. Of all the flights I flew with mine, never broke the gear until I slammed it into the runway. Thats my fault not fliton's.

If they got the mispunctuate, misspelled, unsubstantiated response you just posted, I can see why they weren't ready to help you.


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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 5/23/2006 3:19:31 AM   
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My FLiton Extra broke too, when it hit the ground.

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 5/23/2006 12:49:31 PM   
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well you two should learn to fly better, you crash your planes because your mistakes, and davidson should practice the landing more , i see thats were you crash, i never crash my planes ever and i always land perfect , i said fliton brake IN THE AIR. i have a lot of different flying style planes from many different companies, and the quality of covering of the rogue i had was very wrinkle all over, especially the fuselage and i wasn't impressed, so that means that the planes you had in the past davidson were poor quality, because you were impressed by flitons.
I'm italian and speak 5 languages , sorry for the misspelling etc. mr. elementary teacher davidson. and good luck with your flying skills , be careful with the floor and gravity!!
my post intention was to alert pilots from fliton planes , they are so light that makes them weak and they never mention they should be fly very gentle and slow...................
you did not have to be offensive and comment about my spelling, i bet you don't even speak two languages right? if you do, answer me in another language let's see how good you are..........

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 5/23/2006 1:20:53 PM   
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The fliton extra 330 has a landing gear thas flex way too much, and what kind of plane is the one who you are limited to do slow manouvers because the fear of braking the plane by doing a simple tight loop? for not mention other harder manouvers, where is that fine line?? in the air?

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 5/23/2006 4:50:48 PM   
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Marco, things break. It happens. I'm fairly sure I could snap the wings in half on just about any plane, or at least damage it in flight.
Every plane has operating limits, just like their full scale counterparts. If you want to operate the plane beyond those limits, you have to do things to it to increase its limits. Like installing carbon wing tubes, using plywood instead of balsa, reinforcements, etc.

Planes are not designed to fly full throttle all the time, or full throttle dives, or yanking tight loops with the power on. If you want it to do that you have to make it stronger and capable of those maneuvers. Many of us are taking these planes right to the limit of what they are capable of. They break. We fix them and move on.

There are hundreds if not thousands of pilots flying the Fliton planes. In many of the threads on here and other places, its already been discussed that the landing gear only takes normal smooth graceful landings. So many people reinforce them to allow them to make less than graceful landings. Problem solved, and the plane flys great. Saying that all Fliton planes are a waste of money because of this is rediculas. They are really good planes. If you cant set it down perfect, than be prepared to have to reinforce the landing gear.

Some say the wing spar is soft in some of the planes. It will fly fine as long as your not doing full power blenders and such. But people broke them doing other maneuvers, so now people are reinforcing that part to allow the plane to do those maneuvers.

Every kit has some issue or thing that could be done better. There is NO perfect kit. Ive got a Brio right now that is giving me fits with a odd stall charectoristic that others have noticed too. I dont go around telling people all E-flite planes suck just because I had a problem with mine. We are currently trying to diagnose the problem...then we will fix it and let others know.

I'm curious, did you go online before building your Fliton plane and look around at threads regarding that plane? If so, why didn't you choose to follow recommended guidance with it and reinforce the parts that wouldn't allow you to perform your choice of maneuvering? Have you found a new problem? What is it? Did you find a solution?

I apologize for attacking your spelling, but if your going to start a complaint thread. Substantiate it by supporting your claim with the facts, situation, and information leading to your conclusion.

You said "...critical parts are weak and break". What critical parts?
You said "...instructional manual is missing some very important issues". What important issues?
You said "... they won't do anything for the customer?". What did you ask them for? What information did you provide to them? What was the response?

Chiedo scusa per l'attacco della vostra ortografia. Spiacente. Non ho realizzato che provenivate dall'Italia. Il vostro profilo dice Miami, FL.

Guten tag, Herr Marcoblum.
Wirklich kann ich andere Sprachen sehr gut sprechen. Vielen Dank.

Je peux egalement parler francais.
Vraiment inutile. Je ne projette pas sur visiter la France n'importe quand bientot.

Im het leren Nederlands.. Het helpt met de F3Ai websites Ik geniet van.
Im niet zeker dat is correct. Im het nog leren Nederlands. Het is een harde taal. Ik denk die is correct gespeld.

I'm also curious which ARF electric kits in this size range you've had that were covered better than a Fliton. Ive owned and flown just about every manufacturers planes at one time or another. So far the only one that comes even remotely close to Fliton is Hyperion, but they still exhibit some of the warping like the E-flite kits have.










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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 6/5/2006 1:56:21 AM   
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FWIW, I also suffered an inflight breakage. The first mini plane that I built was the Kantana from Atlanta Hobby, which utilized carbon fiber tubes for the wing attach. I never had one bit of trouble with the wings coming off, no matter how violent the maneuvers were.
Enter the Edge 330 from Fliton. the wing method of attachment was a joke. I added a plywood shear web at the joint inside the fuselage, my mistake was to assume that spar caps were strong enough to take the loads inposed by trimming the elevator during the maiden flight. I agree that the kit was well built and the covering job first rate
In retrospect I should have run the shear web out to the servo bay. The wing sheared off right at the root. Guess the lightweight balsa spar caps could not take the added flight loads imposed by flying it. Would I buy another Fliton ARF H--L no!!!! Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on me.

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 6/5/2006 3:01:30 AM   
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I work at a hobby shop.. and sadly we have had several Flitons returned for inflight failures... (I own a JJ and have had no problems except the ever too soft landing gear)

but due to the lack of customer service that we were receiving from Fliton, we stopped carrying them... sad really as they are beautiful planes.... but too many issues for us....

Oh well...

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 6/5/2006 3:28:00 AM   
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It's funny. Last night I searched "Fliton" and read nothing but positive reports so I ordered one. Tonight I search Fliton and get nothing but negative posts. LOL.

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 4/14/2007 9:28:00 AM   
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Well answered my friend, not everyone speaks/write English perfectly not even the Englishman sometimes. For someone to criticise your English is simply the height of ignorance. Note: I spelt criticise not criticize as spoken in UK

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 4/15/2007 12:53:01 AM   
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What hobby shop do you work at?

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 7/11/2007 8:06:32 PM   
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Hey we got a guy here that can speak five different languages, well fliton does make a nice plane but when you buy that type of plane they are made extra light, you sould of gone with a stronger made kit that has a good landing gear, i have the great planes cap 232 sport and it is the best plane i have owned and you can even bounce it and the landing gear just flexes, most ultra light aerobatic airplanes are made really light so change some things around and support it better, me speak english that is all, well a little spanish, seeeee

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 7/28/2007 5:13:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bdavison

Planes are not designed to fly full throttle all the time, or full throttle dives, or yanking tight loops with the power on.


At the Reynolds numbers and wing loadings we fly at, those are NOT unreasonable things to do. Watch a C/L fast combat match or C/L stunt pattern sometime. There's far less structurally to a fast combat rig than most R/C models and they're hammered far harder constantly. I've got a 30 year old Nemesis II that's be re-covered several times and had hundreds of wild cranking flights put on it and its still together. Basic sheeted LE with 1/4" spars. With an 8x8 RevUp, an ancient .35 G21 Tigre on 25% nitro or so, it steps out around 120mph

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RE: BAD EXPERIENCE WITH FLITON PLANES - 8/8/2007 6:33:10 PM