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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/2/2007 10:31:15 PM   
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Prevent them from vibrating out using blue locktight every now and then.


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Do not use loctite on nylon!!!!!!!! it will eat into the nylon and you WILL have failure!! Loctite is for metal only. Especially true on nylon servos.

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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/3/2007 12:16:43 AM   
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Oops...

I was under the impression that Loctite was a "softer" form of CA, with less adhesion.

Is that not true?



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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/3/2007 3:59:17 AM   
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thanks for the imput guys. The Ulimate looks like a quick easy build. I be starting on that 2morrow.


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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/14/2007 5:44:36 AM   
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Well finish with the ultimate and it turned out to be a good looking plane. I have gone with a OS 160 for power plane. Instead of 1 piece elevator I went to 2. The book has the CG and 4.17. Hope this CG is correct as we know Nitro Model CG is off sometimes. With the 4.17 CG the plane balanced well. No weight added with battery centered. I will be doing a madin flight on this Thur. Look forward to it.

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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/14/2007 11:33:46 AM   
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Let us know how it goes!



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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/16/2007 4:13:53 AM   
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Well the Ultimate flew like a dream. The OS 160 is the right power plant for this bird. Had 3 flights and all were great. Take off and landing was uneventful. Used little power of final approach then settle her in easy. Knife Edge was nice and stable very little rudder input and no coupling. Hover was very easy at about 1/2 thr. Did a few blender that were ok. I need little more elev throw to flatter her out in flat spin. Motor is still new so breaking her in. I used a 24 oz tank and got about 13-14 min flight time. This will be very fun plane to fly. I did notice I little cracking in the wood so I will have to do some re-enforcing other than that things worked out great. I think an OS 120 would also work good on her, but I am big on power. Also you might need to add weight to the nose or move your battery up front if use light motor. I final weight with 160 is little over 9 ½ lb maybe less but I don’t have a scale.


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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/16/2007 4:51:45 AM   
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I have a OS-160 also, i have mine on the giles g202, i lost the landing gear and in that plane had nothing to build on so my friend rebuilt it for me but the engine runs nice, also it is quite knew and i am running pretty rich i hear they run better on the rich side, runs great, is what i hear right or should i go a click at a time to lean it out a little, rollie

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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/16/2007 3:00:35 PM   
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piolet727 I have 2 other plane that has the OS 160 and both runs great. I running on the slightly rich side but not to much. Once the 160 breaks in it will do well


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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/16/2007 3:34:56 PM   
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Thanks for your input i think mine is a little rich but its knew and runs so nice but i think it is time to go a little leaner there plenty of smoke, they are a great running engine, i also have a cap 232 sport with a YS-160 and all of my planes even my lt-25 has merle hyde soft mounts many people get the cheap mounts and think it is a hyde mount like the lord mount and many others that have been teasted but man they are all feeling my plane at any speed where did the vibration go to while they are having parts falling off there planes specially the gas planes merles most popular mount is for the DA-50 i just bought the Cap X and i have a soft mount comming for that as well, i have reserch merle and he is the father of the soft mount, try it you will never run another plane without

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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/17/2007 10:28:44 AM   
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pilot I also have the Cap-x from Chip Hyde. I am running an OS 160 on it as well. Yes the plane does come with the soft mount and I love it. Right now I am using the mount that came with the Ultimate but will be changing out to the soft mount soon.

Had four flights today and all were great. Increase some throw on the elev and was able to do a few flat spin that looked very pretty. This plane will do harries with easy with very little to no wing rocking. Rolling circle was very stable as well. Doing walls the ultimate wants to snap little to the left but will sky rocket up with the 160. I have a Wildhair Edge 540 as well so I am having a hard time deciding on which plane to fly as I love then both. Guess each week both well get it share turn.


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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/17/2007 1:38:28 PM   
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You know that the soft mount that came with the plane is not a soft mount dont you, i buy my mountas from chips dad and he is the one with the real soft mounts he is the father of the soft mount, i have one on all of my planes, did you ever think about trying the DA-50 in it, i had one fellow write to me and he is using the DA-50 and it to flies great, i just ordered a soft mount from merle, him and chip discussed throwing in a real soft mount with each plane but he could not do that as the hyde soft mount is made for each engine, go to central hobbies and there they have a few different mounts, merle has some of his mounts there but not all of them he makes over 600 different kinds of mounts even for electrics and it give longer flights without that vibration, i also have an OS-160 on my new giles 202 and a ys-160dz i have a soft mount and it just takes the vibration out of the plane, when i first ordered the plane i also thought if came with a soft mount but the mount that come with the plane they call a soft mount but it is a scattered arangement, but if you like it that is cool but try a real soft mount i can give you merles address and you can buy them from him and you will see the difference right off, i am glad it flies nice, did you have to move the firewall back or did you just mount it to the firewall, the softmount i ordered is an inch think and it round and has carbonfiber ends for the engine to go onto, the guys at the field just cannot believe the way my cap runs with merles soft mount it is just as still as there was not an engine on it at all, of course there is a little vibration but so very little, i noe soft mount all of my airplanes even my lt-25 i just paid 129.95 to fit my OS-32SX it is also adjustable and for the saito 82 it cost 159.95 but now for the ys-110 it is only 55 dollars plus shipping as he makes many of them is the reason, if you would like to see a real soft mount go to central hobbies there are so many copy cats and they have also been tested and are not much better then a hard mount, drop me a line and thanks for writing me, Rollie

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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/17/2007 3:15:20 PM   
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thanks for the info


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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/18/2007 2:28:21 AM   
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You klnow patzane, i cannot even do a knife edge i never practiced them as i get dis orentated and i do not want to lose a plane do you mix your controls when you do them manuevers, i love to watch people do them, i had a u can do and i only flew it a few times and sold it i did not see anything in doing that kind of flying but i wished i had kept it now to learn the way everyone does them, so do you set your plane up to help you do them eaiser, thanks, rollie

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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/18/2007 3:25:45 AM   
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As u know most aerobatic plane can do the same manuevers. However each one does reaction to your stick input. On my Cap-x don't have to use any mixing at all for knife edge manuevers. On my WileHare Edge I do have to mix a little elevator to rudder. The only way a person can tell if mixing is needs is to do the manuevers. Usually have a friend standing next to me writing things down than do my mixing based on what I tell him I need for certain manuevers. So yes I do use mixing to make things easy. Don't know it this answer your question. I have a grip load on electric 3d plane which help me learn alot about mixing and 3d manuevers. Also had a ugly sick 60 which also taught me alot.


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RE: Ultimate 120 from Nitroplanes - 3/18/2007 5:53:14 AM