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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 6:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I started working on the G-20/Hellcat combo on Saturday. I moved the fuel tank back to the CG, plus I will only be using an 8 oz tank. Then engine had to be mounted on 3/4" stand offs and the carb airflow stack that comes out the side of the cowl was the only issue with this combo. I will move the flight battery back if I need tail wieght. I should have it ready for delivery and to fly Saturday.

I think it looks great with the gear down. When the gear are retracted they to not fit up into the wing.

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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 6:52 AM   
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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 7:13 AM   
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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 12:31 PM   
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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 12:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mine is now due for delivery on Wednesday, June 7.

I'll be using standard Futaba servos, battery pack in the 1000 mAh range, and am thinking of an RCV engine and Master Airscrew 3 blade 16" prop.

Retracts: I really want to come up with something different. As shown in the pic in above post, the H9 ones just don't have enough retraction. They barely go 90 deg, and I really like ones which have about 100 degrees of retraction. They really make ground handling so much better. I flew both of my H9 Corsairs and my Robart 615 equipped Top Flite Corsair a LOT last weekend: the 615 equipped Corsair, even tho heavier, made nice landing EVERY time, even when I came in a little hard. The H-9 ones were constantly trying to nose over.

I've been looking at the cowl, and I have a Bob Hollman cowl ready to paint and slap on. But now I'm looking at the H9 one again (pic borrowed from above post) and it looks like the only thing wrong with the H9 one is the inner lip needs to have some material removed/ Dremeled off. What do ya think?

BTW: that gas engine installation DOES look pretty good. And having the CG remain constant sounds like a good idea too.

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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 12:59 PM   
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Just my opinion but I believe it has a lousy paint job ! The colors are wrong plus they are hard lines between colors. Sure looks like a model airplane. I think even a standoff scale plane can be painted correctly. It takes no more work to do it right !


Oh not, not another whiner. If you don't like it, keep your money and build one from scratch. Not all of us have the time to build from scratch, and feel that for the money: this is as good as it gets.

There are no other Hellcat ARFs available which are better looking/ have more accurate scheme and colors than this one. And it is built using iron on covering, making it easy and inexpensive to build and repair, as well as light weight. The down side it that it is NOT paint, and cannot be blended as can be done with paint. If true scale is your aim, then it must be painted. Altho there IS a Hellcat ARF available which comes from the factory pre-painted, it's colors and scheme are far more inaccurate than this one.

And BTW: I just sold one made by that other company for $125. I had paid $145 shipped for it, so I lost a little money. No matter tho: I decided it would be far too much work to make it resemble anything looking as scale accurate as the H9 version.

Just my opinion.

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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 1:27 PM   
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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 1:38 PM   
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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 1:44 PM   
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I really like ones which have about 100 degrees of retraction. The H-9 ones were constantly trying to nose over.


This is odd because I landed my H9 Corsairs with CJ 93° and Sierra 95° retracts over 200 times on grass without a hint of nosing over. You don't need 100° of retraction, and 100° would make the gear look like training gear (like those on the Mustang PTS)

Landing video with 10+ mph crosswind coming from behind the pilot: H9 F2G-2 Landing #1

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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 1:48 PM   
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Your comment about whinning makes me very tempted to violate RCU policies. You can disagree all you want but leave the personal crap out !


In my opinion, you have already violated RCU policies, by inserting your negative and totally un-constructive comments. You wasted (cyber) space and contributed NOTHING.

You are OBVIOUSLY a CMP Hellcat fan (visit the CMP Hellcat thread and see who's there).
You also obviously love the CMP Hellcat, which is OK with me. To each his own. But why do individuals such as you feel obligated to continually attack another Hellact ARF, which you feel is inferior to your's/ the CMP.
If you and any of your friends continue, and the moderators refuse to intervine, than I will take this war of words to YOUR favorite subvject: the CMP Hellcat thread.

If I seem a little trigger happy, consider what has been said and done in previous Hangar 9 Hellcat threads: some in the CMP crowd LOVE to bash the Hangar 9 version for no apparent reason other than they think it makes their's (the CMP Hellcat) look better.

Bottom line: this thread isn't about a comparison between 2 ARFs, it is about the H9 Hellcat, and that is the subject. If you or anyone has CONSTRUCTIVE cristisisms of it, then I for one welcome them. If on the other hand, all you want to do is whine about glossy colors, flat tail feathers, and proclaim how much better the CMP Hellcat is (in your opinion), then I think your comments and posts are totally out of line here. Take such comments to the CMP Hellcat thread. For that matter, you could begin a NEW thread: 'H9 vs. CMP Hellcats', and take your comments there.

Moderator: kindly remove and ban all future posts from HalH from this thread when/ if you remove this post, and my previous post (#31).

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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 1:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		RichardL: you are correct. 100 dergrees was a number I just threw out there, and I don't think they really need that much. The point I was getting at tho: the H9 units don't even have a full 90 degrees, once they get a little wear in them. Plus, the wires tend to flex back (unlike CJ oleos) during landings, moving the wheels closer to the CG. And having a little more than 90 degrees DOES make ground handling easier, especially if they have a slight forward angle.

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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 3:17 PM   
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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 3:32 PM   
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Just my opinion but I believe it has a lousy paint job ! The colors are wrong plus they are hard lines between colors. Sure looks like a model airplane. I think even a standoff scale plane can be painted correctly. It takes no more work to do it right !



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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 3:52 PM   
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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 5:17 PM   
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But why do morons such as you feel obligated to contiually attack another Hellact ARF, which you feel is inferior to your's.
If you and any other idiots continue, and the moderators refuse to intervine, than I will take this war of words to YOUR favorite subvject: the CMP Hellcat thread.



Jim, why do you continue to personally attack people and then accuse them of the same thing? All Hal was doing was giving his opinion on the H9 Hellcat. The person has flown the full scale Hellcat and is a navy fighter pilot! I think a good look in the mirror will reveal the real one.

Here are some pictures of Hal on the job! In the air and on the deck of the USS Lexington and another of Hal in front of his F9F-8T. Add to that 30+ years as an airline pilot.



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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 5:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK Luke, I took the word "morons" out of the sentence and substituted it with "individuals".
NOW, can any of you individuals answer the questions or not. OR, do you prefer to skip around/ dodge the subject, and answer questions with other questions. What are you trying to prove? Do any of you have anything useful to contribute, or are you just jealous because Hangar 9 is now marketing what may be a better looking ARF out of the box than the CMP Hellcat.

"DUH !! Maybe it ought to be paint !" Now there's another intelligent statement. Maybe Hangar 9 should have painted their Hellcats a totally in-accurate dull blue and gray paint scheme, as CMP does. And use paint which flakes off, as CMP does.

Do you guys really want me to invade your space, jump into your thread, and start saying what I think of your efforts to take an ARF, take several months and $$$ to completely re-build it into a fantstic looking project, when you might have been better off starting with a Bob Hollman kit in the 1st place?

Now, I ask one more time: if your only goal is to dump on the Hangar 9 Hellcat, PLEASE take it somewhere else. Somewhere other than a thread dedicated specifcally and exclusively to the Hangar 9 Hellcat. I suggest you might start a CMP vs H9 Hellcat thread, where we can all dump on each other (or at least those that enjoy doing so). Otherwise, I will begin dumping all over your CMP Hellcat thread.

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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 7:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Please forgive me in advance as I am new to the hobby, is it possible to paint the models covering to create a different paint scheme? I have always wanted to have a Hellcat model but I wanted to have it in the British Mk II color scheme instead of the usual Navy markings. If you can paint over the covereing without too much trouble then what type of paint would you use?

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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 7:02 PM   
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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 7:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would take the CMP-one or build a Hellcat from kit. But there is room for more Hellcats on the market. By the look of things Hangar 9-models don't always have the looks, but they seem to fly well.
So this Hellcat will be well suited for a beginner (after his trainer of course).


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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 7:12 PM   
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Please forgive me in advance as I am new to the hobby, is it possible to paint the models covering to create a different paint scheme? I have always wanted to have a Hellcat model but I wanted to have it in the British Mk II color scheme instead of the usual Navy markings. If you can paint over the covereing without too much trouble then what type of paint would you use?

Thanks,
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While it IS possible to paint the normal glossy covering, I think it would work better on a different covering, such as CoveRite flat gray. In fact, that is what I intend to do with mine: strip all original covering and recover with CoveRite flat gray, or at least over framed up areas. I plan to apply a lightweight glass cloth over the balsa sheeted areas, and paint.
Lot's of opinions on paint choice: altho Chevron/ Perfect paints are no longer available in fuel proof military colors.
My personal choice at this time is Behr house paints, see this thread:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/What_is_best_%27House_Paint%27_to_use%3F_And%2C_anything_special_used_for_Airbrush_thinning%3F/m_2604374/tm.htm


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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 7:18 PM   
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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 7:51 PM   
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There is no place for name calling anywhere on RCU. It is apparent some of you have not bothered to read the reddish-brown directions posted at the top of the reply form. Please do so before posting again. It may clear some things up for you.

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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/6/2006 10:10 PM   
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Id pay double to put a gas engine on any plane anyday.. I look forward to the reports on this bird with gas power... glow slime = haha

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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/7/2006 2:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Dick, this is your OLD aquaintance Tim from RDRC. Hope you have been well. Havent seen you since perhaps the mid 80's. Nice that you are doing a review of the very combo I'm currently planning. I just got the H9 Hellcat, and its done very well for an ARF. Lots of glue around the wing saddle and firewall. Looks like H9 has been listening to customers. Not sure if I'll use the G-20 or not. I held one in the cowl and its a pretty good fit. Just not sure about the rumor I heard about this engines ignition eating batteries....used to all day flying on a DA-50 with a 1200mah.

Any idea what the time frame may be on your review? As I said, I have the plane, but may wait to see your review before deciding on power. Actually, you are over at BARKS right? I may have to swing over and see this thing if you will have it at the field. Take care,

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RE: H9-F6F Hellcat 60 ARF - 6/7/2006 3:16 AM   
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