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New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 6/2/2006 7:49:41 AM   
s5lin


 

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From: Arcadia, CA, USA
Status: offline 		Hi,

Has anyone else seen the new Black Hawk EP500? Dymond RC in San Diego has one in stock(demo model) and also Raiden tech is carrying it now.

http://www.raidentech.com/hearfbrelrar.html

$165 for the ARF without motor from Raidentech, and Dymond is going to sell theirs for $250 with a motor, I will probably end up buying from Dymond, as they are actually closer to me. I am currently living in SD and Helmut has been great for advice, gotta support my LHS.

At first I was going to get the T-Rex 450XL, but this heli appeals to since it is slightly larger and being that I am a beginner still I was hoping to get a slight heavier heli for starting out. And also it seems this heli has some metal parts for the head.

But I was thinking of this setup for it:

JR XP6102 ( I'm an airplane guy and I have this radio, it has 3 CCPM Heli programmin already)
Futaba GY401 Gyro using the Tower Hobbies coupon for that and some servos
Hitec HS 56 all around (3 Cyclic and Collective, 1 for tail)
Castle Creations Phoenix 45 ESC
Align 430L 3550KV motor (in case I do not get one with motor)

What do the rest of you guys think?

Please let me know on the Heli and the equipment.


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RE: New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 6/2/2006 8:24:51 AM   
twistercp


 

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Status: offline 		looks lovely - wish could afford it!

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RE: New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 6/2/2006 2:11:29 PM   
AJ DRAGON


 

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They also make a nitro version.

Black Hawk 500 GP

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RE: New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 6/2/2006 4:46:51 PM   
credence


 

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From: Brampton, ON, CANADA
Status: offline 		I was looking at this bird yesterday and was somewhat intrigued. It's not THAT much bigger though. The blades are only 3.5 cm larger than the t-rex's and it's body is just a bit longer.

Nonetheless, more rotor area does help with stablity. It's definately a nice looking bird, but like so many things in this hobby, you get what you pay for. I'd be very interested in seeing how it performs, mechanically that is.

My only concern now is parts availability. I've seen a few different companies carying this bird but none seem to stock spare parts, not a good thing.

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RE: New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 6/2/2006 5:40:42 PM   
AJ DRAGON


 

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The thing that I really like about this Heli is that you can put a 1/10 scale nitro engine in it. Myself I would put a O.S. .12cv in it and that would give you almost 35min. of fly time with that 125cc fuel tank.

Here is another place that also sells parts for it.
Blackhawk 500 EP CP helicopter

And here are 2 pic's of it with the engine in it.

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RE: New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 7/22/2006 5:13:55 AM   
MANFRED



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Status: offline 		Dymond in San Diego has a complete line of parts including a ton of alum upgrades and CF frame parts. They are also coming out with some scale fuses pre-painted.

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RE: New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 11/13/2006 10:57:26 PM   
rcjames1


 

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Status: offline 		I bought the Blawkhawk, nitro version ; then converted it to electric. Went to dymond and bought all required parts. I am using the stock motor with castle 45 and a 3300 mah 3 cell lipo,3- hs 65 servos....not sure which servo to use on the tail. When I put it next to the T-rex there is a big difference.I will use my JR 8103 with pcm 770 receiver and a 401 gyro. I will probably use the futaba 9650 or the new aitronics mini digital.....whichever one I get my hands on first . I am intermediate flyer so I am not concerned about the heli's 3-D capabilities, although "they" say it does OKAY.

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RE: New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 11/14/2006 3:19:37 AM   
rcjames1


 

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Status: offline 		okay , I bought a futaba 9650........got heli in air ....very smooth , although controls were too sensitive so I brought it back in the house and moved ball links to first hole on arm.....but , got dark.....more later. Looking toward near future , I am definitely going to buy metal blade grips and those georgeous carbon fiber blades.

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RE: New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 11/21/2006 7:53:41 PM   
arffy


 

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Status: offline 		hey rc james be careful of the aileron control arms .Put nuts on inside or they will stip out of the frame.Its a good thing I do checks on mine or I would of had a really bad crash.

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RE: New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 11/22/2006 12:20:46 AM   
moosemanty


 

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Status: offline 		heli hobby also has parts http://www.helihobby.com/html/blackhawk_helicopter.html
also a while back i saw a few good vids of this heli. but i don't remember where..........

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RE: New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 11/22/2006 3:09:52 AM   
rcjames1


 

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Status: offline 		arffy....thx for the "tip". Okay, I have hovered this blackhawk several times now ....smooth...2100 rpm at 17.25 amp draw (hover).
I do have to say it is made of low quality parts....screws have poor threads ( as they have fallen out of the frame , I have tapped frame spacers with 2-56 threads and installed 2-56 alenhead screws with blue locktite. The main gear is very soft material, the bushings on the feathering spindle are way too soft, allowing for too much flex of the main blades.The linkages have poor threads too but haven't "let go" yet, I am thinking of comparing them to those used in T-rex 450. I know the Shogun feathering spindle is exactly same as Blawkhawk....no surprise both made by Walkera. As my flying progresses , I will upgrade with better quality parts.

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RE: New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 1/21/2007 9:14:32 PM   
retired911guy


 

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Status: offline 		I have been searching for a forum/thread on the HeliPro Black Hawk helicopters and cannot find one specific for these helicopters and not much information on any of them. I was hunting for a 'copter that has full aluminum running gear already installed and finally found one: the HeliPro Black Hawk 450 SE 3D. If it is any good at all, this bird is one heck of a deal. Here is a link to take a look at it: http://www.discountrchelicopter.com/product/BlackHawk450SE. I swallowed hard and dug deep to order one. I was so tired of flimsy running gear. This one looks to be of "tank" quality with rotors. It has just about everything I want in a electric helicopter. If anyone has any experience with this helicopter, please let me know what that experience is and what I may expect from this unit and what I might need to do to make it reliable and flyable. Nothing is perfect, as we all well know. It appears to be about half the price of a similarly configured T-Rex and is RTF. If it is any good at all, it will be a real bargain. One last question: Is a carbon fiber frame better/worse/preferable to an aluminum frame?

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RE: New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 1/24/2007 6:49:44 AM   
tzeming


 

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From: Sydney NSw, AUSTRALIA
Status: offline 		I am beginner and recently bought a blackhawk 500GP and a 450EP.
at the moment, I am setting up the 500GP and still looking for a good break in procedure. I think I will use 10% nitro fuel to start off with.
With the 120' ccpm setting in my JR radio, the default is 60%, I am not sure if this is correct or not for the swashplate as well
any Suggestion ?

For the 450EP, I notice the main frame has only two servo mount holes ( upper and lower position ). this means one servo will fit into the upper mount holes for elevator ,two servos will needed to be install back to back in the lower mount hole for collective and Aileron.
I am wondering what servo will fit ?

some sites for helipro

http://www.helipro-rc.com/home.asp
http://gfoto.com.hk/rcmodel/1/l13.html
http://www.5imx.com/newscenter/n061102a.htm ( chinese site )

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RE: New Blackhawk Heli... A lil bigger than T-Rex - 1/24/2007 10:04:23 PM   
retired911guy


 

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