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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 7:15:06 PM   
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There is no reason to be hovering over the runway in an active traffic pattern, it causes accidents and undue stress to your fellow fliers. Move it a few feet on the other side of the runway, it is safer for everyone.
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I agree unless a club wants 3Ding over the runway, or when the pilot has the airspace to himself or when all the other pilots don't mind.

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IMO if you can't see the plane well enough to hover on the other side of the runway, you either need to get your eyes checked or find another hobby.


Fly some 3D with a .40 sized plane with a 100'wide runway and the repost that.


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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 8:03:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		What make you think I have not done so. My point is that in a club, IF there are other members flying there is no reason to hover over the runway. My eyesight is fine, as are my reflexes. Don't want this to deteriorate to something personal but 50 feet of distance should not be detrimental to your hovering skills.
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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 8:35:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		This started out with someone wanting recognition for the way they fly. The "Nationals," (Nats) will soon take place. If you want the AMA to recognize you flying prowess, Sign up for the Nats and let a panel of judges (I'll be one) critique your flying skills. If their good enough you'll get all the recognition you can handle. You'll make all the magazines. I thin this subject has accomplished all it ever going to, and I suggest that unless someone adds something new to the subject, you just let it be. You've had your say and we understand exactly where you stand.

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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 10:23:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmm... I will hazard a guess...Bill, Bob and Doc are awesome extreme 3d pilots They seem to be very knowledgeable with their keen insight to 3D flying. What do you think 50%?

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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 10:24:14 PM   
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What make you think I have not done so. My point is that in a club, IF there are other members flying there is no reason to hover over the runway. My eyesight is fine, as are my reflexes. Don't want this to deteriorate to something personal but 50 feet of distance should not be detrimental to your hovering skills.
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50'? Yea sure that's fine, but it depends on how big the runway is. I've flown at ones that were 150" wide here in VA. I currently fly at one that's 65'. I have no problem going to 70' with a .40 sized plane.

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This started out with someone wanting recognition for the way they fly. The "Nationals," (Nats) will soon take place. If you want the AMA to recognize you flying prowess, Sign up for the Nats and let a panel of judges (I'll be one) critique your flying skills. If their good enough you'll get all the recognition you can handle. You'll make all the magazines. I thin this subject has accomplished all it ever going to, and I suggest that unless someone adds something new to the subject, you just let it be. You've had your say and we understand exactly where you stand.
3D was the example as that's what I could relate to. If you think that this thread is done don't keep posting in it. I won't either. However there are some misconceptions about 3D flight that I would like to straighten out and if anyone wants to ask questions, I'd be more than happy to provide the answers.


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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 10:24:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 50%plane

The problem with that is when the plane is far away, you could not see when something is happening and fall out of the hover into another plane. It's no fun hovering when you can't see your plane. Hovering is hard to do because you have to correct the instant something happens.(even one inch) That's why the runway is so well used.


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50%,

Don't you mean abused, instead of used???

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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 10:26:47 PM   
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Hmmm... I will hazard a guess...Bill, Bob and Doc are awesome extreme 3d pilots They seem to be very knowledgeable with their keen insight to 3D flying. What do you think 50%?

could be. It's interesting how much that they don't know though.

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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 10:28:09 PM   
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Don't you mean abused, instead of used???

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Used when not needed by anyone else, abused when others need it for more realistic flying purposes.

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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 10:34:02 PM   
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Hmmm... I will hazard a guess...Bill, Bob and Doc are awesome extreme 3d pilots They seem to be very knowledgeable with their keen insight to 3D flying. What do you think 50%?


Hmmmm...I won't hazard a guess...Bill does not have any desire to bounce a grossly overpowered model airplane on it's tail. Bill builds (yeah I said builds) his scale models. Bill also flies any manuver that the full scale plane would do. Bill has been doing this, probably since before you were born. There is nothing wrong with Bill,s eyesight, nor his reflexes. I doubt if you can fly the 3D manuvers with the reccomended size engine in your plane. I don't bad mouth you for flying 3D. Fly whatever you wish. I just stated the obvious. The runway should be for the immediate use of everyone. If you can't fly 3D away from the runway, then perhaps you are the one who needs to become very knowledgeable with your keen insight to 3D flying. Go Big, or go Home.

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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 10:39:58 PM   
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Hmmm... I will hazard a guess...Bill, Bob and Doc are awesome extreme 3d pilots They seem to be very knowledgeable with their keen insight to 3D flying. What do you think 50%?


Hmmmm...I won't hazard a guess... Bill builds (yeah I said builds) his scale models. Bill also flies any manuver that the full scale plane would do. Bill has been doing this, probably since before you were born. There is nothing wrong with Bill,s eyesight, nor his reflexes. I doubt if you can fly the 3D manuvers with the reccomended size engine in your plane. I don't bad mouth you for flying 3D. Fly whatever you wish. I just stated the obvious. The runway should be for the immediate use of everyone. If you can't fly 3D away from the runway, then perhaps you are the one who needs to become very knowledgeable with your keen insight to 3D flying. Go Big, or go Home.

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I build my scale models. Here's what I'm doing now:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4353068/tm.htm

Full scale planes Torq roll. The Pitts Python supposedly has a 1:1 power/weight ratio. Matt Chapman has almost that in his Cap 580. Sean Tucker's late Oracle Pitts Challenger could almost do that. etc.

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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 10:49:20 PM   
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Hmmm... I will hazard a guess...Bill, Bob and Doc are awesome extreme 3d pilots They seem to be very knowledgeable with their keen insight to 3D flying. What do you think 50%?




Littlecrankshaf........you are dead wrong. I think 3D flying stinks and is totally unreal. But That's just my opinion. To each his (or her) own. There's room for every type. However, for me it will always be Scale airplanes, and scale aerobatics. Mark my word......sooner or later, 3d flying will loose the bigger part of it's following. Right now it's just a "FAD," and most of the true 3D flyer's around don't have to search for recognition. Recognition comes to them. Ninety percent of the "Quote," un-quote fliers are just fooling themselves. Real skill comes from flying smooth aerobatics, not just learning how to hang a plane one it's prop. The only skill that requires is over powering the plane, and judiciously using the rudder.
But..............like I said, "to each his own) I'll just sit and watch all the wanna be's crash their planes.

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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 10:51:19 PM   
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I think 3D flying stinks and is totally unreal.

read my previous post

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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 10:53:00 PM   
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I doubt if you can fly the 3D manuvers with the reccomended size engine in your plane. I don't bad mouth you for flying 3D.



Actually all of my planes have the recommended size engine in them.


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The runway should be for the immediate use of everyone.

At least I agree with that statement. If a 3D aircrafts engine flames out while hovering over the runway the pilot could probably make a safe harrier landing.



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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 10:54:10 PM   
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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 10:57:50 PM   
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I've had my say. Now I'll just leave it to all you "NEWBIES".

Bob AMA 8143

Thanks for taking the time to share your wisdom on this topic.


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RE: Legislating against 3D flight - 6/8/2006 11:05:14 PM   
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I've had my say. Now I'll just leave it to all you "NEWBIES".

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Wow...I am so impressed. How bout you 50%?

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