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LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/7/2006 7:15:22 AM   
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hey all,

im looking to get a really good charger. i have a duratrax intellipeak pulse charger and wished i didnt get it. my time charger is doing better than that. the things im looking for in a charger is:

AC/DC inputs
able to charge NimH, Ni-CaD, Li-Po, and Li-Ion,
fast and slow charging capability (of course)
at least up to 10 cells down to 1 cell
umm...ive been hearing people saying that you should cycle Nimh batteries so able to cycle batteries.
and compact.

ive looked at tower first and came up with the Accu-Cycle Elite. i wouldn't mind spending that much on a very good charger. plus its small and compact. and it fits all of my needs. i just want opinions on this charger and know if its worth the money.

thanks in advance.
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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/7/2006 5:20:35 PM   
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I would venture to say that having ac power is really not that much of a must. My triton works really well for much less than the accu cycle. If you're intent on using ac power there are sites floating around explaining the conversion of a pc power supply to dc power. The two together would cost less than the accu cycle.

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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/7/2006 8:58:30 PM   
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I bought a MPI converter for my triton, but left banana jacks installed so I can run either through 110 or aligator clamps to 12V.

Triton works good on a lot of different batteries. I like it.

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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/7/2006 9:11:14 PM   
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wow, does anyone have a link to a dc power converter? that would be much better to have. i have looked at the triton and ice chargers and they seem better and faster charging than the elite.

thanks

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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/7/2006 10:49:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: speedyAK

hey all,

im looking to get a really good charger. i have a duratrax intellipeak pulse charger and wished i didnt get it. my time charger is doing better than that. the things im looking for in a charger is:

AC/DC inputs
able to charge NimH, Ni-CaD, Li-Po, and Li-Ion,
fast and slow charging capability (of course)
at least up to 10 cells down to 1 cell
umm...ive been hearing people saying that you should cycle Nimh batteries so able to cycle batteries.
and compact.

ive looked at tower first and came up with the Accu-Cycle Elite. i wouldn't mind spending that much on a very good charger. plus its small and compact. and it fits all of my needs. i just want opinions on this charger and know if its worth the money.

thanks in advance.


I have had both the Accu-Cycle Elite, AND the Great Planes Triton.

I still have the Accu-Cycle Elite. I sold the Triton. Whats that tell ya?

My problem with the Triton is that it will ONLY work on DC. That makes it a bit inconvenient to use around the house. It's not a totall dealbreaker, but something to take note of. Another thing is that Triton can only charge one battery at a time. THAT was a dealbreaker for me. I want to be able to charge BOTH RX batteries at once on a big plane with dual batteries. Then, when the RX batteries are done, I want to charge my ignition battery and my TX. That alone takes long enough with dual outputs on a charger, but with the Triton only having one output--it would take 3 hrs to charge a Giant Scale plane with 2 RX batteries and an ignition bettery.

Another problem I had with my Triton is that it was overly voltage sensitive. If my input voltage dropped below 12V--the damn thing would shut down. I sent it back to Hobby services, but they just sent it back with a clean bill of health. It still dropped out everytime the input voltage dropped below 12V.

To me, the Triton was just a pain in the arse.

Now, my Accu-Cycle Elite, I LOVE IT!! It works on AC and DC. They give you these really cool alligator clips that already have banana post in them. so, if you want to use it at the field, just plug your banana plugs into the alligator clips and hook it to the truck battery. Simple. Effective. Good design.

The Accu-Cycle is also 10 times easeir to program than the Triton. You just tell it how many cells. Tell it the capacity of the pack. Then tell it to peak charge, trickle charge, or cycle. Push the button and walk away. It has 8 batteries in the memory, so you can set up a charge for your TX and store that in memory. You can even store a quick field charge, and a slow overnight trickle if you want too.

I use a lot of the same size RX packs. I use the 1650mah 6V Hobbico packs from Tower. I probably have 15 of those batteries. So, I set up a field charge rate and store it in memory. Then I set up a cycle and trickle charge for at home and store that in memory.

It has dual outputs too. Thats a big deal to me. As I mentioned earlier--if you have a plane with dual RX batteries and an ignition bettery. Thats 3 bateries. Toss in the TX and your looking at charging 4 batteries at the field. It will take you the rest of the afternon with the Triton. Might as well pack up and go home--it will be dark by the time you finish field charging 4 batteries with the Triton.




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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/8/2006 1:35:38 AM   
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AccuCycle Elite gets my vote. Its great if the 2A output per side will fit your needs & 3 cell lipo max.
The 10 memorys are good to, quik to set up charges. Its a good gen purpose unit.

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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/8/2006 2:13:47 AM   
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thanks for the inputs guys. the only thing im worried about the accu-cycle is the charging time. im also looking into the duratrax ice. the elite is at 2 amps and the ice goes up to 8 or 9 amps. i dont remember. of course just about everyone is worried about how long it takes to charge the batteries.

if you can, what capicity do you have to charge and how long does it take at the fastest.

thanks for all the info rcpilet. that narrows my next charger list to two. the elite and the ice. with the ice, i'll get a AC power converter or use a seperate battery from my snow machine.

all inputs are welcome. just dont talk crap.

thanks.

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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/8/2006 4:39:38 AM   
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I can't be the only person that has one of these.

It plugs into a 110 electrical output, but puts out 12 volts.

No gel cell, or car battery needed. I have banana jacks on the converter so I can run it through alligator clips on a battery or through the converter mounted on my shop wall.

I think I paid about $50 for it from my hobby shop, but it works great with the Triton.

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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/8/2006 4:53:07 AM   
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I just got the super brain 977 on sale for 79 bucks with a 12 v power supply [peak detector circuit]. however with all good things comes a few not so good but thats ok as i have a accu cycle for my forming charge. i love it but its too slow thats why i got the super brain . I think it will charge 5 amps after the forming charge.

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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/8/2006 6:16:35 AM   
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whats that thing called that converts the power source there daven. one that i will probably need if i want the ice.

i was sorta looking into the super brain a little. but after i read the review by misbehavin-rc, i thought otherwise. but i hope your happy with it treedog.

thanks

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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/8/2006 12:52:46 PM   
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Tower sells a "power converter"/transformer that you plug into the wall and then plug your 12V-only charger (like the Triton) into.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXL356&P=ML

I've got my Triton plugged into one of them. Tower had one in their scratch&dent sale recently so I jumped on it.

The Hobbico Accu-Cycle Elite actually is a DC unit that is packaged with a separate converter. I have both a Triton and Accu-CycleElite and have been running the Triton on the Elite's converter. Now that I have a converter for the Triton I can run both. But both of them take a converter to run off of 110AC. One is sold with it's own. The other is not.

I've found that for the money, if I had to do it all over again, I'd buy the Accu-Cycle and be good to go. The Triton will only charge one thing at a time and it's unique ability to charge lead batteries has turned out to be half charge lead batteries, so far. Both the AccuCycle and the Triton are simple to use. Matter of fact, both their user manuals appear to have been written and printed by the same company. The Accu-cycle's two outlets allows me to come in from flying and put my TX and airplane on to charge at one time. When I come back into the shop I unplug both and am done with that.

Buying the Accu-Cycle gave me total flexibility. I can use it at a remote flying field or...... Our flying field has power at the pits, so I can use it there plugged into the 110AC outlets and not have to bother with hooking up to my automobile. I wouldn't be able to monitor the recharge at the auto, so that's a big plus. I can also use it in the shop with no effort. Plug it into the wall and it's good to go.

The Accu-Cycle is only a few dollars more than the Triton, but it'll do twice the charging and do it off a wall outlet or your car battery. And until I find out how the Triton is supposed to recharge my flightbox battery to a usable level, the Triton won't do anything the Accu-Cycle won't do two-at-a-time.

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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/8/2006 8:32:37 PM   
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thats some nice info you got ther darock. thanks.

im not flying here. i wish i was though. but i own electric rc trucks. i will want to get a 4300mah battery pack and wont want to wait all day to let it finish charging. thats the only thing im worried about. the ice has a big 8 amp charging rate. i think im going to be getting the duratrax ice.

thanks for the link darock. i really appreciate it. i posted another thread at the electric truck and cars forum too. if i were to be flying, i would definatly get the elite. but i dont want to be waiting all day for the charge to finish.

thanks again.

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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/10/2006 4:54:54 PM   
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I'm regularly charging the following batteries on my Accu-Cycle Elite:

All my batteries are 6V metal hydride

1100mah
1650mah
2100mah
2700mah
3000mah

Of course, the 3000mah battery takes almost twice as long as the 1650, but it's not a big deal.

You can crank up the charge rate with the Accu-Cycle. I think up to 2amps. I never push any of my batteries that hard. I use a 500mah charge for field charging. Usually take about an hour to top off a battery. I don't fly my batteries untill they are dead. No point in risking my plane. I have a field charger. So, I fly 2 or 3 times and then I slap them on the Accu-Cycle at 500mah.

I'm usually using JR digitals. Planes are 50cc size aerobats. Usually 5 or 6 digitals and a couple standards for throttle and choke. I fly about 10--12 minutes. These planes have dual 1650mah batteries. Takes about an hour and 15 minutes to charge both batteries up at 500mah rate.

On a larger plane with dual 2100mah bateries. 7 digitals. 2 standards. Dual batteries. Fly 3 or 4 times and then charge at 750mah for about an hour.

I could push the batteries harder on the charger, but I'm not in that much of a hurry. I also don't want to risk overheating a cell.

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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/10/2006 6:45:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: treedog

I just got the super brain 977 on sale for 79 bucks with a 12 v power supply [peak detector circuit]. however with all good things comes a few not so good but thats ok as i have a accu cycle for my forming charge. i love it but its too slow thats why i got the super brain . I think it will charge 5 amps after the forming charge.


Where did you find it that cheap? I may buy a second one, I love that charger.

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RE: LOOKING FOR GOOD CHARGER - 6/13/2006 4:43:20 PM   
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