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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/29/2008 3:04:45 AM   
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The fact remains that you have no direct knowledge of the BCE chassis since you have not tried one yourself. The fact that others can't manage faster times with their BCE chassis means only that they are not true racers. Everyone that I know of that has tried the BCE chassis raves by it. My lap times have decreased. What about this do you not understand? For about $100 you can have a cutting edge chassis that should make you a better driver.
Are you so locked into your anti-BCE position that you aren't even willing to try it. Shame on you and may your lap times suffer.
I challenge you to try it and then come back here and tell me it's not worth the investment.
If you're a true racer, then you'd be looking for everything and anything that would get you to the winner's circle.
The fact that you continue to bash the BCE chassis indicates to me that you are not a true racer.


you are funny man, since when was i bashing Bills products? all i said its not a must have if you are racing lol man what races have you attended to make such claims?

i would mention who actually drove the BCE chassis, (including myself) but its not worth even mentioning as you just went completely downhill with your antics. the newer version (not the previous version) ran great, but again, its not a must have lol maybe he made some changes to the longer chassis version, but reading your posts dont sound convincing at all. ...in fact im more inclined to keep running stock LOL

when was the last time you even hit a track? you are ASSUMING myself and anybody else who drove it and was not successful with the chassis to be garbage...im dying to see you drive at a track man, you better be making laps like Pavidas with all the smack you talk

where do you race at? the more and more you try and say anything positive about BCE, you are making it seem worst than what it really is!

the Chassis is nice, but man you arent doing him any justice thats for sure.

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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/29/2008 3:10:56 AM   
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BEC LOOKS NICE BUT THE STOCK MUGEN CHASSIS IS MADE OF 7075 TO WASTE OF MONEY FI YOU ASK ME.


The stock chassis is in no way equivalent or even close to what BCE offers. 7075 coming out of the far east is far inferior to USA 7075. If you are a serious racer then the BCE chassis is a must have. If you just bash then it is a waste of money.
Check out my review:
BCE MBX5T chassis review


i disagree, i have been running my stock chassis for well over a year now racing. I have yet found the need for the BCE chassis. its nice but definitely not needed. if you got some cash to burn its a nice added feature, but not needed. jmho

If you don't own the BCE chassis then how would you know it is not needed and how can you disagree with something you have no experience with? The BCE chassis is not just stiffer, it's slightly longer and the rear component layout is very slightly different resulting in better balance and a whole new handling truck. I've used both. I have the experience to tell you that your laps times will come down. That is, unless you are a really lousy driver. Did you not read the review?
If you don't want to take my word for it, just check out www.truggyracers.com and see for yourself the number of truggy racers that swear by this chassis. BCE makes chassis for many other truggies as well. They are on the cutting edge of creating chassis that increase handling ability.



first off why are you assuming i never tried one? second you are referring to truggyracers, your point?

at a couple of well known races down south we had a couple of peeps running the BCE chassis, all of which had slower lap times with the longer chassis.

i dont think im that slow, but i bet by your actions you are nothing that would cause me to believe you are any faster than i LOL and im not saying im the fastest driver on the planet, but i dont say things just because so and so or joe shmoe said so on some forum.

i dont take anybodys word for it but my own and what i see personally. where do you race at? dont you run down in southern cali? at REV? or hotrods? sun valley? where do you race? i frequently head down to those tracks, i will be attending most of the races once they kick off here soon, im actually eager to start some electric racing in conjunction with my nitro racing,

well anyhow, it is by far more durable and looks killer, but performance wise it isnt beneficial for all track settings. i think that is one of the reasons as to why he made another chassis that is more equivalent to the stocker..

not saying its junk, and im not saying anybody shouldnt get it, BUT i am saying its not a needed addition if you are going to be racing, like i said, i raced all year in so cal and did pretty well without. was in the sportsman A-mains every time i attended BOW series races last year frist time attending any races, won a couple of club races at sun valley, one of which had over 100 entries when steve dunn was holding them, won a couple of SB races, i dont even know why i am even mentioning any of this, as there is no point lol

i think the Mugen MBX5T right out of the box is ready to race with zero additions, shocks, chassis, durability is all awesome. one of the best kits i ran to date! along with my Mugen MBX5R.

thats great you take pride in Bills work, as he does produce some awesome work (like i said i own a couple of his products), but i think it should be known the Mugen is a awesome piece of machinery as is! although i would like to see some improvements, none of which are aftermarket parts we have available...hopefully people will start to cater to what actually wears down on the MBX5T...not parts that are already bling, like shocks and chassis lol

sorry it isnt anything you may think is right and or wrong, but i guess if everybody agreed on anything they would be all running the same deal every weekend and thats for sure not the case lol

The fact remains that you have no direct knowledge of the BCE chassis since you have not tried one yourself. The fact that others can't manage faster times with their BCE chassis means only that they are not true racers. Everyone that I know of that has tried the BCE chassis raves by it. My lap times have decreased. What about this do you not understand? For about $100 you can have a cutting edge chassis that should make you a better driver.
Are you so locked into your anti-BCE position that you aren't even willing to try it. Shame on you and may your lap times suffer.
I challenge you to try it and then come back here and tell me it's not worth the investment.
If you're a true racer, then you'd be looking for everything and anything that would get you to the winner's circle.
The fact that you continue to bash the BCE chassis indicates to me that you are not a true racer.


In my opinion and all fairness. I think that a person with little experience in competitive racing might not be able to exploit what the chassis can and what it was designed to do. I found that as you progress in fine tuning an rc vehicle ie: truggies, the smallest of changes can make a difference. But, to make that difference one would have to have a large amount of experience in tuning not only an engine but geometry tuning, physics tuning and electrical tuning. That, will truely make you a "better driver". Unless you defy the rules of time + experience = knowledge. Understanding torsion and it's affects at what points, is what this chassis is about. I own an mbx5t prospec and I should be receiving the bce chassis any day now. I am no where near a racers caliber so I won't know if it made a difference or not in time because I never timed myself before. I bought the mugen because I believe in quality, after i've owned a traxx ass. So don't bother asking me why I bought it and don't race.

I've said this before. If I raced a pro racer with a 2WD electric buggy against my mugen, i'd get spanked real hard. I enjoy trying and testing new combinations and understanding the affects that take place. Once I understand the differences in tuning I can take advantage of the chassis' benefit. So, to narrow it down. Should anyone purchase this chassis with little experience, they should not set high expectations. To those who have already purchased the chassis and have performance enhancements remember that there are plenty of racers with out this chassis running circles around a lot people just before making it to the winners circle.

I on the other hand, am not a "true racer" as mentioned. Just some dude that likes to turn a wrench.

that's my 2 1/2 cents.


this is a very intelligent post and not to mention you are from canada eh? lol joking with ya, my wife is from canada lol

like i said, if you got some money to burn, its a cool addition, but thats a bold statement to make saying you NEED the chassis to be somewhat competitive lol that right there is a far stretch and not to mention say somebody who you never even seen drive assume he is garbage along with anybody else who drove the kit.

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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/29/2008 3:21:25 AM   
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I wont be mean...

but you cannot ignore the fact that BCE makes a nice chassis! even with your comments lol

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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/29/2008 5:20:30 AM   
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DUDE THAT'S A NICE CHASSIS BUT I HAVE RUNNING THE STOCK CHSSSIS LONG TIME AND NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT.IS ALOT LITER DON'T NEED STORNGER THAT'S JUST OVERKILL.

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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/29/2008 5:26:46 AM   
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FORGET ABOUT CHASSIS THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THE MUGEN MBX5T IS THE LOWER FRONT A-ARMS.THEY SUCK!

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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/29/2008 6:45:30 AM   
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i would say they USE to suck, they had a bad batch, since then i have yet to break a front A-arm.

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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/29/2008 7:25:36 PM   
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Have had no problems with the arms or the chassis that came stock on the prospec.I'm not to sure about the BCE,my buddy has the BCE and he loves his and I have drivin both chassis and seen a slight diff in handling but nothing to major.

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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/29/2008 10:53:08 PM   
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im pretty close to closing this thread due to the amount of arguments that have accumulated on the last two pages. lets get back to topic shall we?

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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/30/2008 3:36:07 AM   
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Mugen Rocks!!!!

i cant wait to see the MBX6 come out towards the end of the year!! Mugen makes an awesome kit as is...i cant wait to see what they got brewing thas for sure

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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/30/2008 6:06:58 AM   
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Its been since October since I had mine on any kind of track,I forgot what it was like to drive it. I hope the new one has some big bore shocks which they probably will. What do you think will be first,the buggy or truggy?

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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/30/2008 7:39:29 AM   
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the buggy for sure will be out first simply because of the worlds, shortly there after the truggy will come along.

Jesse

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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/30/2008 9:41:05 PM   
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how many days are u guys gonna argue about the chassis is that all there is to talk about these truggy's. i just got a prospect on the way with the bce chassis and im just gonna load it up with 2 big lipo packs and a big motor and see what this baby can do. 40-50 will be no problem with even low gearing. plus no engine tuning, 30min + run times and more acceleration than any nitro plus better top speed at the same weight as nitro maybe a bit heavier. ill keep u guys up on the build.


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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/30/2008 10:14:58 PM   
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i ran an XRAY 1/8 scale electric conversion buggy...it was really fun and interesting...i never ran a electric truggy, so that will be interesting as well!


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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 1/30/2008 11:22:25 PM   
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how many days are u guys gonna argue about the chassis is that all there is to talk about these truggy's. i just got a prospect on the way with the bce chassis and im just gonna load it up with 2 big lipo packs and a big motor and see what this baby can do. 40-50 will be no problem with even low gearing. plus no engine tuning, 30min + run times and more acceleration than any nitro plus better top speed at the same weight as nitro maybe a bit heavier. ill keep u guys up on the build.


Its Done, no need to keep bringing it up.

As far as your electric Mugen goes, all the power to you. can't wait to see pics and vids when your done. Everyone enjoys their own nitch. Whether it be Nitro or Electric. To each is there own I say.

TB

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RE: Offical Mugen MBX5T thread - 2/1/2008 1:46:51 PM   
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