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New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 6/12/2006 10:12:17 AM   
CrashingDutchman



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From: AmersfoortUtrecht, NETHERLANDS
Status: offline 		On behalf of the manufacturer I'd like to announce their new Extra 330L that comes as a ready to fly kit.



Specifications:
●Main wingspan: 960mm
●Fuselage overall length: 897mm
●Main-wing area: 19.33 sq.dm
●Wing loading: 32.07g/sq.dm
●Weight: 620g

The plane is equiped with 9 gram high precision servo's (3) and a 4 channel micro receiver (range about 3000 feet, compatible with Futaba and other PPM systems). Furthermore, the airplane comes standard with a brushless motor (B2025 - 4000KV in-runner) mounted in a gearbox with 8:1 ratio. We have chosen to use an 18A brushless ESC. Power is supplied by a 11.1V 1500mAh 12C Lipo battery. With the propeller that we supply with this plane (13x6.5) the battery is discharged at around 8C, so there is some to spare. This setup can provide a thrust of around 1050 gram, around 1.7 times the weight of the plane. Flying time is around 15 minutes.

To complete the kit, a 4 channel PPM transmitter and a lipo battery charger are included with this kit.

The manufacturer of this plane is looking for companies that are interested in distributing this plane in their country. You can contact them through their company e-mail: sale-1@sapac.com.cn.

For single item orders, please contact me through PM and i will see if I can help.

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 7/21/2006 8:07:39 AM   
sunnykids


 

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From: Shantou, CHINA
Status: offline 		New product for: R/C Climb-wall Car
"Features:
Motor: #130, Materials: PP ,Functions: Forward/backward/turn left/turn right, Charging time:4-6 hours ,Running time per charge:10-15 Minutes
Rechargeable nickel chromic battery and charger included 9V battery for the controller included Controller included, Color: Red/Black, Packing: Gift box:42.2 x 22.5 x 16.1 cm
Notes:
Will the car work on any wall? The car is basically a ""vacuum cleaner"", it sticks to the wall with suction. As long as the wall is SMOOTH it will work fine on any surface. "From http://www.sunnykids.cn

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 8/12/2006 7:54:06 AM   
sushi2me


 

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From: Wilmington, DE, USA
Status: offline 		I bought one of these (flashy advertizing, good features, good price) and am already having problems with the B2025 motor - it seized up on me and the propeller unwound and fell off due to the thrust/force. I can't find a replacement motor on UCE-BestBuy's site (they sell this plane but their electric motors parts section doesn't show a B2025 KV4000 motor). ParkFlyers sells this plane also - I'm sure they'll have the replacement part but their server is down for maintenance (it's almost 3 am EST) - I'll check tomorrow/today! I also went to RaidenTech.com - no luck for an exact match but the prices are great! I've also looked for a GWS equivalent - "close but no cigar".

As I'm indicating, my concern is the quality of this motor for it to fail so quickly - it's a good looking plane, moderately well constructed, incredible thrust as advertized, therefore performs quite well - HOWEVER, it's a "cheap" RTF from China (everything's from China these days) and you just NEVER know for sure about the quality of the components.

Anybody else out there bought one of these yet? How's it performing? How're your failure/parts issues? THANKS.

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 8/24/2006 7:37:12 PM   
s0ck


 

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From: Greenfield, IN, USA
Status: offline 		Hello, I ordered this plane on Ebay two days ago and haven't received it yet. I will try to write a little something after I get it. In the meantime, here is all the parts, including the motor. http://www.parkflyers.com/html/330l_spare_parts.html

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 8/24/2006 11:17:20 PM   
richd724


 

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Joined: 3/29/2006
From: Mt.Pleasant, PA, USA
Status: offline 		I have had the Extra 330l for about 2 weeks and it has plenty of power to climb. Next to the begin air I fly, This extra flies circles around it. I also have a problem with the motor. The back side of the motor came loose and seprated causing the motor to reverse or seize up causing the prop to spinn off. After taking closser look at the back of the motor I see there are no tabs to hold the housing or the for motor torque. Is this right beacuse the brushed motors have tabs to hold the torque of the motor. I don't know this is my first brushless motor plane. I ordered a new motor off of parkflyers.com for a resaonable price. When this plane flies it is awsome I have had it intverted,knife edge,outside loops,snap rolls, and many more. One thing,just try to keep it tamed down and not to wild beacuse i did manage to rip off half of the elevotor in mid flight while doing some level snap rolls. Managed to land saftley though. A little CA glue and some extra strength and back to the sky. Ohh and one more thing if you dont make a perfect landing and tip it on its prop you will bend the shaft as I have bent 3 already. They seem to be really cheap on this prop shaft. I have also added packing tape to the alerions to keep them form nicking in case of a rough landing this will not effect the flying. Ok thats it, if you never flew a plane like this before she's fast.

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 10/13/2006 1:56:05 AM   
shurmuz


 

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From: Holly Springs, NC, USA
Status: offline 		Well I ordered mine on a whim... when it gets here I will let you all know what happens. I have been flying for a few years and had a great foamy that I beat the heck out and finally it had enough CA. This will be the second plane on the electric side. I have a mini funtana but really dont want to (know how to) put the darn thing together. Glow is much easier.

anyway, if and when this thing actually performs the way it is supposed to STOCK then I will post some video. If the pilot cant pull the tricks off then I wont post the video.

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 11/7/2006 12:42:10 PM   
rstoomanyhobbies


 

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From: Holly Springs, NC, USA
Status: offline 		Hey Shurmuz and others: any other input on the 330L to share? Quality issues, parts availability, etc.

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 11/8/2006 2:01:38 AM   
shurmuz


 

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From: Holly Springs, NC, USA
Status: offline 		Its FAST... its cheap foam.... motor has no power....and it is a brick. For the price though, it is worth it if you need something to fly. I think they have parts available. Not had the need yet....

Who is this? I lived in Holly Springs for awhile.

Ed

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 11/14/2006 4:39:06 AM   
pacmanemi


 

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Joined: 10/30/2006
From: Holly Springs, NC, USA
Status: offline 		I just got mine today and was very disappointed with the instructions and with the nylon screws that hold it together. I went out to the hardware store and bought a metal bolt to hold mine and it is much firmer. I spent 4 hours fixing and building a rtf airplane. but other than that the power is amazing and the action is great.

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 11/28/2006 12:51:27 PM   
BrettBroome


 

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Joined: 5/30/2006
From: BroomeWestern Australia, AUSTRALIA
Status: offline 		I reckon this thing is worth the A$180 just for the laughs I had reading the instructions!

I've only flown mine for an hour or so. Major problems initially with the RX antenna routing. It runs between the elevator & rudder control rods & I had MAJOR flutter at only about 50m on the range test. This is easily fixed by taping the antenna outside the fuse & now is not a problem. They also had the antenna leftover coiled up & wound up with the servo leads in the RX compartment, which didn't really help either!

My motor hasn't fallen out yet........ give it time I guess by the sound of it!

I also taped the ailerons as they are very brittle & easily damaged at the tips. (The wife broke a tip off just moving it off the bed - don't ask!)

The undercarriage wire is too light & I replaced the crappy wheels with some lightweight neoprene ones which makes the thing at least roll OK. It does want to drop a wing on landing if you come in too slow so fly it all the way in & don't get too tentative about it.

I think the nylon wing bolt is a pretty good idea to minimise damage if you do happen to fluff up a landing. The thread didn't seem to to grip too well so I just pulled out the red nut holder from underneath & turned it upside down.... fixed.

All in all, you get what you pay for... It's cheap and has a bucket load of grunt, is fun to chuck around the sky and has a pretty good finish. I'm just learning 3D hence I'm definitely not qualified to comment on its 3D qualities.

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 11/28/2006 12:52:59 PM   
BrettBroome


 

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Status: offline 		sorry.. that's AU$180....

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 12/2/2006 1:54:53 AM   
BrettBroome


 

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From: BroomeWestern Australia, AUSTRALIA
Status: offline 		I've had a chance to fly it some more now.....

WATCH THE WING MOUNT AT THE LEADING EDGE!!
I would advise anyone bying this plane to take off the wing mount from the wing and fuse & re-attach with epoxy before you fly. After only about 1.5 hours I noticed the wing looked a little loose. On inspection, I found that the plastic mounts are only attached with a trace of some sort or glue that looks a lot like a hard silicone. It was literally hanging by a thread! The wing would have certainly parted company with the fuse on the next flight........ I would also add some tape to the TE where it mates with the fuse. This will help support the plastic mounting screw.

I must say though that for the price I am still hugely impressed by the performance; it has plenty of grunt and is very positive on the controls. It does need a dual rate on the TX as it is very twitchy to land on with the throws set high for 3D.

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 12/25/2006 2:24:08 PM   
BrettBroome


 

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Joined: 5/30/2006
From: BroomeWestern Australia, AUSTRALIA
Status: offline 		More on this one......
I have had the same problem as rchd724, only the entire horizontal stab broke free coming out of a loop. Somehow I hanaged to get it on to the ground inverted and amazingly there was very little damage.

This plane really can't be flown straight out of the box if you want it to last. I suggest anyone buying one needs to read this thread and strengthen everything. Take every plastic part off the fuse and re-fasten with epoxy or it WILL fail sooner or later. Also put tape in the horizontal stag and elevator as well as the ailerons or they too will break up in flight. Lube the brass spur gear too as the pinion gear chews it out in no time. I suggest adjusting the motor so it runs on the front half of the spur, then when that wears you can slide it forward and use up the other half of the spur. One of my shafts lost grip with the pinion in mid flight too, but I fixed it with epoxy..... the list goes on.
Despite all that I still love flying it as it does perform really well.

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 12/28/2006 2:18:21 AM   
ssllc902


 

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From: mounds view , MN, USA
Status: offline 		Hi I have bought this 330l. I need parts. Ruder,elv,and prop shaft. Please let me know where to get parts.

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RE: New Product - Electric Extra 330L RTF 3D kit - 12/28/2006 2:37:33 AM   
ssllc902


 

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From: mounds view , MN, USA
Status: offline 		never mind I found it. If you wanna cheep foam plane go get the typhoone by