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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 9/22/2006 2:26:02 AM   
KI8FR


 

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Status: offline 		ok thanks I will do that.

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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 10/8/2006 5:46:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I thank you so much for the links and videos. I have a 16 year old Goldberg O.S. 40ts Eagle, and the covering that was on it is getting to old for my liking. The Mono-Kote is real brittle, plus she has too many patches on it.... so I stripped the wings down to the Skeleton except for the Ailerons. I never covered anything except the Tissue and Dope planes that I used to get when I was a kid.

I'm studying all the video's and I will read the directions on the Ultra-Kote and I'm going to make a attempt to do this. If I do a great job...I might do the Fuselage... however that isn't too bad and only has a couple patches. We'll see, wish my club would help me, but that's OK, I taught myself to fly somewhat, and I have you people here thank God!







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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 1/1/2007 8:39:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very good videos, happy new year!!

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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 1/10/2007 3:27:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mike, what a great post... Thanks a ton from all of newbies that panic when the guys at the hobby shop start talking about covering. You make a hard task seem almost fun. That "Great Planes P-38" you did was great. In covering, build and the timing in which you built it for. God bless our vets.. and just pure THANK YOU!! to them. Nice song with video but, would like to hear that bird sing a little more..

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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 1/10/2007 6:22:08 AM   
Safebet


 

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Status: offline 		Thank You, Minn Flyer. Great job and very helpful.

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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 1/10/2007 1:24:11 PM   
MinnFlyer



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Status: offline 		A very humble "Thank You". It's nice to know that it was helpful. But if covering is so much fun, why do I hate to do it???

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ORIGINAL: Avalanche2

Nice song with video but, would like to hear that bird sing a little more..


Yea, for a while there we were adding music to the videos, but after several similar complaints, we stopped doing it. Hey, you know, the whole concept of an On-Line Magazine is new, and we're still in a learning process. Check out the review I did on Nitroplane's P-38, it's got two OS 70's and no music!

Nitroplane P-38

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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 1/10/2007 8:10:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very nice. Now thats a bird with a voice... would love to see it fly.. I'm sure the video doesn't do it justice....

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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 1/11/2007 11:02:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		ive never covered anything before. I knew this was going to be a challenge so i built a small 35' wingspan plane to practice on. I covered, stripped, and recovered my way through two full rolls of monokote on that thing with no success. And i dont just mean that it was unsightly! there was so many wrinkles im not sure it would even fly. I have all new equipment (irons and such) and two very informative books with good pictures. I have followed all the instructions to a T! i can get the covering tacked down tightly without any sag, slack, or wrinkles but as soon as i apply heat it shrivles and sags. some places seem to shrink like theyre supposed too but its patchy. there are places that melt before they shrink! Im at a loss! is my material defective? what am i doing wrong? i have covered that plane over a dozen times and my results have not improved. And dont think i havent taken my time. i have spent all evening on half the underside of a wing with terrible results. bah......ok..sorry for ranting. heres my question:
*is it possible BOTh my rolls of monokote are defective?
*is there any reason to think i might have better luck with ultracote? i hear it shrinks at a lower temperature.
thanks

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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 1/12/2007 2:22:18 AM   
Avalanche2


 

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Status: offline 		Ttronco, take a look at MinnFlyers post. He has made VIDEOS for us newbies that are great... He has a few post with several videos and written material... Fantastic information. Good luck...

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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 1/12/2007 4:43:29 AM   
tronco


 

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Status: offline 		Yeah thanks. But I watched all the videos attentivly. they are wonderful and as far as i can tell i was doing everything correctly.../shrug. Turns out i work better...much better...with ultracote! my plane looks wonderful on the first try! Its not perfect by any means but it far outdoes my original expectations. I am just starting in this hobby but i may have just developed a brand loyalty! thanks for the thread everyone!

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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 1/12/2007 2:17:35 PM   
MinnFlyer



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Status: offline 		Switching to Ultracote was going to be my first suggestion.

I like both coverings for different reasons, but for just plain "User Friendliness", Ultracote is the winner, hands down.

Here is another tip for getting out wrinkles:

Let's think of a sheet on a bed. If the sheet has a wrinkle in it, you might just sweep your hand over the wrinkle to get it out - and it MIGHT come out that way.

But if it doesn't, you don't keep wiping it, you pull the sides of the sheet - right?

The same rule applies to covering. If you've got a wrinkle that won't come out, try heating (shrinking) the covering next to the wrinkle. As that area shrinks, it will pull out the wrinkle from the side.

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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 1/24/2007 3:36:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am covering a Taylorcraft now and had to use on color with Monocote. The other three are Ultra cote colors. Monocote compared to Ultra is like covering with tinfoil. This is the first time I have used Ultracote, but have coved many models with Mono. Also I have to cover the Mono over the Ultra. Not fun. I will never use Monocote again. Why does Top Flite leave the clear edges on the film. What a PITA. Also I need the edge that is littered with their ink. How do I remove it?

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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 1/24/2007 1:54:47 PM   
MinnFlyer



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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 1/24/2007 2:25:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was afraid you would say that. Just going to have to cut the whole bottom off and make a new edge. Thanks Mike

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RE: New Covering Videos!!! - 2/14/2007 6:02:39 PM