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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 1/19/2007 11:57:08 PM   
deljon



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Status: offline 		OK, got the four I-Beams glued up and spliced into two spars.
Care must be taken when spliceing for this wing. The wing from tip rib
to tip rib is 71 1/4". The two beams that make up the spar are 36" each
so that only allows no more that a 3/4" splice. That don't seem like a lot,
but with the ply splice supports on the inside of the beam and the spar
webbing in the center section will probably be 1/16 ply. So that should
make for a very strong joint.





As with the top wing will now square up and align each rib just tacking them
as I go. Will then recheck all the alignments and glue permanently.



Ribs all glued up and webbing glued in top and bottom.



LE and TE glued in place. The front of the two ply ribs will not be glued in place until the wing is fitted to the fuse.
Reason being they will need to be set at an angle for clearance of the landing gear. That angle will be determined when the wing is properly aliened with the fuse.

Del

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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 1/20/2007 2:47:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sure that will be strong enough. But it seems to me that it might be preferrable to use three sticks and make two longer slices at other than the center point. For example, there could be one long piece in the center and then two shorter sections sliced on towards the wingtips.

As I said, I'm sure this will be fine but since this is the prototype it's always good to consider options for the future of the kit.

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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 1/20/2007 2:59:29 AM   
deljon



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Status: offline 		Don......I beleave Glenn's reason is a cost factor. Having the spruce sticks
milled I guess is not cheap. I think he wants to have the best quality kit
at the most reasonable price possible.
With the splice in the middle, there will be a hold down bolt on each side of
it, plus you will have the added strength of the inter wing struts.
With the ply webbing in the center section should be a very strong wing.

Del

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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 1/20/2007 3:10:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		That sounds like a very reasonable decision. I just remembered someone mentioning this other option in a thread I started a while ago on spar splicing.

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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 2/1/2007 6:57:06 PM   
deljon



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Status: offline 		Got another box of goodies yesterday. Got the parts for the middle wing.
Started glueing up the I-beams for the spars last night. So, shouldn't take
too long to frame this one up. Construction the same as the other two, so
no need to duplicate pictures. One area of difference is the center section
where the curved cutouts are. When I get there will show that part.

The reason that I haven't totally finished framing the other wings is Glenn
is waiting to get the fittings for the inner wing struts from the vendor. These
need to be bolted to the spar before its closed up with the webbing. Same for
the tip skids.

I've heard that some are not getting the pictures when the go to the site.
I get them alright on my computer, I don't have an answer for that problem??
Later

Del

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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 2/1/2007 7:02:18 PM   
abufletcher



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Status: offline 		Yeah, the photos on the other pages are there but the ones on p.7 are missing for me. I'm on a Mac using Safari.

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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 2/1/2007 7:05:44 PM   
deljon



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Status: offline 		I'll try an edit and repost and see if that helps.

Del

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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 2/1/2007 7:11:17 PM   
deljon



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Status: offline 		Ok, just deleted and reposted the pictures, Did it help????

Del

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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 2/1/2007 9:41:54 PM   
WinterHawke



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Photos on this page now are coming through fine - probably one of them internet things

Looking forward to seeing your handiwork in person this weekend, as I'll be in town for a visit.

'til later,

Lee

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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 2/1/2007 11:01:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Del,
The build is coming along just great. Would love to see some pics of the stuff from far back to get a better idea of the size of this monster. I wish I had room for these big guys. Have you heard from Glenn when you will be getting the fuse to build? The build looks great so far keep posting.

Mark

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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 2/1/2007 11:16:39 PM   
deljon



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Status: offline 		Mark.......Can you get the pictures starting on page ONE?? These are all the ones that I've posted.
If I remember right the top wing is 96"

Should be getting the fuse. plans pretty soon, I think he's working on them now.
He's going to offer two ways to do the fuse. longerons. 5/16 square stock or 5/16 dowels.
I chose to do the dowels for a more scale appearance. If you chose the dowels, he suggests that you go to Lowes or Home Depot where you can get 4' long ones, that way you don't have to splice them.
The reason for not including the 4' dowels in the kit is it would cost more because shipping for a 4' long box would cost a whole lot more.
Later

Del

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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 2/1/2007 11:39:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Whooo Hooo! Del, I am looking forward to this summer. I should have my 1/3rd scale Sopwith Tripe done by then. We can have a ball at Dayton and Muncie (a furball that is). Sir Percy says that the number of 1/3rd scale planes is exploding this winter.

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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 2/1/2007 11:50:42 PM   
deljon



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Status: offline 		Hey David....Sure looks like it' shaping up to be a great summer.
GREAT TIMES WILL BE HAD BY ALL.

Hey, why don't ya do a thread on the Tripe, would love to see it.

Del

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RE: Glenn Torrence (GTM) 1/3 Scale Dr.1 Build Along - 2/1/2007 11:59:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Things are not good here right now, so my building is on again and off again. I do hope to finish it by fall, in time for Ohio and Indiana.

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