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RE: Jim LeRoy Pitts Bulldog - Scratch Build Thread - 1/7/2008 1:00:23 AM   
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I am amazed at this build,you have done a superb job of creating a great replica.May the maiden be safe,sucessful and exiting at the same time.
2 thumbs up on this project.


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RE: Jim LeRoy Pitts Bulldog - Scratch Build Thread - 1/7/2008 4:59:28 AM   
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Pretty cool stuff!!I think it's great and it keeps Jims memory alive and well.I'll bet he's smiling down seeing all these great models of the Bulldog.Hey Jason,lets come up with about 6500 bucks and do one of those big Bulldog II's!!!
Joe

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RE: Jim LeRoy Pitts Bulldog - Scratch Build Thread - 1/7/2008 3:43:38 PM   
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Hey gang,

Been a while, eh?

Words can't describe how pleased I am that, so long after the maiden of its original build, this thread is still alive, cheering the success othersare having modeling Jim's airplanes.

Honestly, I don't think there's a better tribute to Jim anywhere in the world. There's dozens of videos, music, fly-ins, you name it...but THIS thread CONTINUES to keep the memory of Jim and the Bulldog alive, it continues to spread a love of aviation in general, and the Pitts in particular, it continues to brig people together as friends through these shared passions, and it continues to EXCITE people with a little yellow and black airplane....in short, this thread is STILL doing all of the things Jim wanted to do in his life. I defy anyone to provide a better way to remember the man.

Joe, I really do have to say here, in public...the Bulldog II is nothing short of BREATHTAKING. I can't say any more...it's simply breathtaking. Well done, sir.

As for my own beast, a brief update is probably in order.

She now has 21 flights, the last 4 of which with (finally) a working smoke system. On her last 2 flights, I came as close as my feeble skills and 40 yr old fingers and eyes will ever come to "recreating" Jim's style. We did inverted jammers, some knife-edges at about 30', and even a descending torque roll.

Those two flights were the realization of everything I'd dared hope for when I began the build. My skills as both a builder and pilot simply will not allow me to ever come any closer to keeping Jim's memory alive.

As a result, the Bulldog now finds herself in "semi-retirement". I will, at this point, readily admit that I'm scared to fly her very much any more.

We discussed, shortly after Jim's death, the idea that Jim would have told each of us "Bah, don't be a wimp. Go fly it like you stole it." I think all of us agreed that if ANY of these models were to go in, it would be a shame, but such an outcome would STILL be better than never flying them out of "fear". And, honestly, why would any of us have put this kind of time and effort into such a project if not to look up in the air and "see Jim"??

So, it was only right that she got flown, and flown hard.

BUT

Now? Eh...it's a different thing...for me at least. I've done everything I could possibly have dreamed of doing. I finished the build, I kept Jim's airplane alive, I recreated his "style" in the air, and I've even had the pleasure of sharing it with Joanie an Tommy. What more can i possibly ask for?

In short...she's done everything she can do, and owes me nothing.

So...the LHS has requested that I allow them to hang her up as the centerpiece of their large display in their new digs, and I'm honored to oblige. She'll get a good cleaning, a correctly detailed 3-blade prop, and will spend most of her days reminding everyone who walks in of Jim's legacy.

She WILL come down 3-4 times a year for some "special events", such as a local fun-scale event, and, of course, the annual memorial fly-in. But she's done as a casual weekend airplane.

In any event, there's your update on the beast that started this madness. Allow me to close by tossing in my best wishes as well for a long and successful run with the Bulldog II, Joe.

P.S. So who's up for a 50 percenter???

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The free man will ask neither what his country can do for him nor what he can do for his country. - Milton Friedman

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RE: Jim LeRoy Pitts Bulldog - Scratch Build Thread - 1/8/2008 4:08:56 AM   
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Good to hear you haven't fallen into the T.V.watching hockey!!!!Glad to hear you got some true Bulldog flights out of your baby,I'm still working on a few minor details and good weather to get the Bulldog II in the air.I plan on flying mine quite a bit this coming season and then I'll decide what I want to do with it,but will probably enjoy continuing to fly it at special events and some static displays!Yea,that big 3W Bulldog II looks pretty good,not exact,but close enought.Hell I wouldn't want to pay the shipping to get one over here,let alone the $4200 bucks for the plane.I imagine by the time you got engine and gear in,it would be around 7-8grand!!!
Joe
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Thanks for all the comments on the Bulldog II,most of which go to Mike Stellern here in St.Lou!

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RE: Jim LeRoy Pitts Bulldog - Scratch Build Thread - 1/8/2008 9:01:13 AM   
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Joe ,That would be great to get a 50 % plane going , but I am like you . Thats a lot of dough!!
I too have to give thanks to Gorden for getting this page going . I feel like he does, that this page has very much so have keept Jims name active and still going , By far it is a safe site that people can come together and talk , share stories , about building , flying , and have the respect of Jim by leaving the day of Bulldogs last sky dance be . We all feel the same passion for what Jims life was and ment to all of us and even though he is no longer with us , he will live on . I see this site living on for a long time . what we have shared by scratch building our own planes now come ARF kits flooding the market in 2008 bringing more people to share there stories and with this site they have a home to do so . it is like the ultimate bulldog fan club in a way ? I just think its great . If anyone needed to knoe about anything about Bulldog they can get it here , from Kits , plans , T-shirts , Pilot busts , photos , three views , and I am shure that I am leaving things out, if you are building a bulldog , this is the place to be .

jason,

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RE: Jim LeRoy Pitts Bulldog - Scratch Build Thread - 1/9/2008 9:57:01 PM   
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Hi guys! my names Robert,
I've been reading through this thread for the last couple of days now, and all I can say is WOW!!

Gordon, your Bulldog is nothing short of inspirational. you've got the wheels-a-turnin in my head, and I know,
without a doubt, I've found the plane that has peaked my interest to the point of choosing Jim Leroy's
Pitts Bulldog II as my first ever build!

Joe, your Bulldog II is a showstopper, hands down one of the most beautiful scale models I've ever seen.
And i hope you dont mind, but I intend to follow your lead and Start my build with a greatplanes 1/3 scale ARF and modify
the wing and tail to mimic the lines of Jim's full scale Bulldog II.

With that said, I want you guys to know that you'll probably be hearing alot from me in the next few months, as I'm going
to milk you for all the information your willing to share, in order to build my bulldog to the standards of which I've seen in this thread.

BE PREPAIRED FOR QUESTIONS!!!!

Thanks guys
Robert

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RE: Jim LeRoy Pitts Bulldog - Scratch Build Thread - 1/10/2008 1:11:18 AM   
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Glad to have another Bulldog lover Robert.Gordon and I were talking on the phone this afternoon about how many people this thread has brought together and how many are big fans of Jim and the Bulldog.Feel free to ask any questions you might think of and you'll get all the answers we can come up with!!!Good luck on your project and can't wait to see it finished.
Joe
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RE: Jim LeRoy Pitts Bulldog - Scratch Build Thread - 1/10/2008 3:23:45 AM   
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Thank you joe, for the warm welcome. perhaps one day soon I'll earn a spot in the Bulldog brotherhood
I've been looking around the WWW in search of vital components to start my build. Great planes has discontinued
the 1/3 scale pitts ARF, but fortunatly, although on back order, all the parts are still available
I'm just wondering if I'll need to order the wings, or build the Bulldog wings from scratch.

See, the questions have already started!

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RE: Jim LeRoy Pitts Bulldog - Scratch Build Thread - 1/10/2008 6:59:35 AM   
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Welcome , you might want to try some hobby shops on line or on E-bay , maybe ask around on some posts on line , I am sure that someone has a pitts they would sell .

jason,

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RE: Jim LeRoy Pitts Bulldog - Scratch Build Thread - 1/10/2008 1:26:55 PM   
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I agree with Jason.There are a lot of these around,even if they are already put together and have been flown,you can strip it down and do your mods and recover!

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RE: Jim LeRoy Pitts Bulldog - Scratch Build Thread - 1/10/2008 6:35:21 PM   
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Strankon,
I picked up one of these on Ebay a few months ago for like $300 with shipping. You will find out the box is so big shipping will be expensive. The wings are a bit tricky to modify. I cut the tips off and added the additional area as needed for the square tips. On the Bulldog II the tips are squared off, but they are the new style Wolf wings. they have longer ailerons and they taper off at the tip. I think to get a proper wing on the 2nd ship a new wing will need to be built for the true scale effect. On Bulldog I, the tips not tapered and you can make new ribs out to the new tip based on the same rib pattern as the rest of the wing. I own 2 of these and once I get the shop finished I will attempt to re-build both models. My Bulldog I is still in all yellow and now sits packed away in short term storage. I am still all boxed up because we moved the week of christmas. I like this plane, but some people have stated the GP pitts can be a hand full if you arent experienced with aerobatic bipes. If you do build a pitts to look like the Bulldog, I highly recommend the TNT landing gear for it. The new gear sits higher giving it a more realistic handling quality. The stock gear sits low and can make the airplane a bit of a handful right near the flare on landing. I have heard a few people bite it at that last second with this airplane. Good luck with the build.....and Joe that plane looks absolutely beautiful.

I am thinking of making an attempt at getting poeple together to display these models in front of the greatest airshow in the world. Mr. Kimball built Jim's airplane, and I wonder if there ever Could be a way a couple Mini Bulldogs could make an apperance at EAA near the aerobatic village to show the world what Jim means to all of us. If a few people are interested, I will make the effort to contact some people here to make it happen. I think that would be neat. I would love to put a bunch of Bulldogs on the performers ramp in Jim's memory. Give it a thought everyone and chime in any ideas.

I wonder what is going to happen to Jim's website in the future? MAYBE someone can take it over and keep it going?

Gordon, I think the next plane you should think about is a small scale Bulldog. Andrew's plans seem to work nice in any scale. I scaled down the plan with tile print and it looks great in a small electric platform as well. Give it a thought.

-Andy

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RE: Jim LeRoy Pitts Bulldog - Scratch Build Thread - 1/10/2008 7:25:54 PM   
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Andy,there might be several of us with Bulldogs that would be interested in the Oshkosh thing,always depends on personal schedules and all that stuff,but would be interesting to see if something like that could be put together.
Joe
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RE: Jim LeRoy Pitts Bulldog - Scratch Build Thread - 1/11/2008 5:54:32 AM   
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Hi ,

Having performed at oshkosh twice while crew chief for Shock Wave I know that it can be a mad house , getting checked in , passes , rental cars ext. , Its a big show and theres just a lot going on all week. I could make it but only for 2-3 days . and I would need to know soon to put in time at work. Our club is planing on having another bulldog memorial fly in the first Saturday October 4 , 2008 . we had a great turn out last year with many bulldogs. We would like to have another great turn out if not better this year.

As the web site goes . I think it will be up for a while . I hope, it has a lot of great movies and photos . one that I even took

Jason,

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