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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/28/2006 5:29:29 AM   
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Not that you asked me - but I will tell you all the same since I have made and painted many plastic models in my life. Paint sticks better to a surface that is free from grease or oil even from your very own fingers. Its just something I've always done and is considered good modeling technique but I'm sure tankduel is right in that it probably isn't absolutely necessary. I think for a static model, it is even probably less important. However, for something that will be run outside in dirt, grass, and possibly mud, having the paint adhered to the model as best as possible, is a good idea. Here is another opinion from a credible modeling site should you need verification of the technique.

Wash the parts first. The parts are made by injection molding, and are covered with a release agent to help un-stick them from the mold. This agent will prevent paint from sticking well to your model. Wash the parts in soap and water, then air dry. You can use a hair dryer to help.

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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/28/2006 6:22:43 PM   
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I tend to wash models prior to painting myself. Oils from your skin as well as from the release agent on the model could cause adhesian problems or even leave a fingerprint that shows later. Even a wipe down with some windex would do the trick. Probably not a vital step, but it couldn't hurt

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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/28/2006 8:34:28 PM   
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Ooo - I get it - Holy Grail - Templars. You must have attended the same Clever Wit University as your twin. The funny thing, actually, if our tigers ever met at a close enough range, I could pop off pieces of plastic. Your much more expensive tank would then counter by emitting infrared salvos that would make my commander figure, equipped with the loose bowels upgrade available from Mata toys, crap in his paints!!!

Okay this should continue this thread nicely - don't you guys think? Now I've laid the bait for two clever fish - lets see if they bite or can they resist.

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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/28/2006 10:34:44 PM   
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OK then Templar.
Lets find some common ground for a hypothetical Tamiya vs Henlong Battle.

First, I guess we would have to hold it on completely flat ground with no rocks, otherwise your henlong is dead in the water to start with.
Second lets presume the henlong actually works on the day.

Do you really think a henlong has the manoueverability to hit a moving target, I don't think so.

It would only take one ram from a Tamiya and the henlong would start falling to bits and get bulldozed off the battlefield where it should be.

Anyway it sure would not happen at my club,we do not allow people who are both cheap and easily amused to come and fire their mini ping pong balls around, our club is for discerning hobbyists and henlongs are for the 'dog and cat botherers' to stay in their backyards with.
Go on , take it to an RC tank club, I'm sure the people will be nice to you,and they will make great efforts not to break into great guffaws of laughter.
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ORIGINAL: Templars83

Ooo - I get it - Holy Grail - Templars. You must have attended the same Clever Wit University as your twin. The funny thing, actually, if our tigers ever met at a close enough range, I could pop off pieces of plastic. Your much more expensive tank would then counter by emitting infrared salvos that would make my commander figure, equipped with the loose bowels upgrade available from Mata toys, crap in his paints!!!

Okay this should continue this thread nicely - don't you guys think? Now I've laid the bait for two clever fish - lets see if they bite or can they resist.


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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/28/2006 11:22:53 PM   
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Speaking of laughter, this image just popped into my head.

All was going smoothly at the next tank meet. Everyone was having a good ole' time shooting lasers back and forth with disabled tanks everywhere. The battlefield was alive with a host of activity, and no one noticed.....

At the woods edge, a gathering was taking place. Quietly, and with much anticipation, a group of individuals equipped with the most modern of BB shooting tanks were plotting an offensive of massive proportions. It was their time, they thought. Having been the brunt of "guffaws of laughter" for some time, they would accept nothing other than total victory on this day. All involved had been assigned their targets and no enemy tank was left to chance.....

From the woods, a rustling was heard that seemed to be others joining in on the laser tag euphoria that was taking place. "Great! This would be the clubs greatest day of new membership numbers", the leader thought. All the new operators that were flooding toward the battlefield seemed to have pleasant smiles on their faces....

The smiles were from the "new operators" knowing what was about to take place. And, these smiles suddenly turned to looks of intense concentration as they identified and ranged their targets. With one word, a wall of small plastic projectiles streaked at their assigned targets. One by one, they found their marks......

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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/28/2006 11:26:44 PM   
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HAHA, sounds like a Henlonger's wet dream!

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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/29/2006 12:00:01 AM   
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during the offense, some HL broke down, their commenders hurry back to their computer and post: "help, loose wire with my HL!!!", "road wheels fell, how to put it back on!!" " how to lube my bb gun", "another HL broke down, help", "my SS really smoke, i meant the board!!!" "gun elevation only go up, not down".

one commander is thinking with regret and tears in his eyes to himself: "I should have listened to What Tom told me!!!!"

the other commanders of hl tanks that not broke think: "when will mine broke? " "those tamiya tanks look really nice, i have to upgrade my tanks to look like that, oh, may be just buy a tamiya"

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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/29/2006 12:29:43 AM   
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Then Swathdiver's 4 year old daughter rolls up on Tomzag's King Tiger in her Tiger, takes aim and starts blasting $20 pieces of detail off the sides of his tank while he impatiently waits for his battle system to let him drive again. With $150 of detail parts laying on the ground and his paint job ruined her Pantiger moves on seeking out yet another victim. Tomzag eventually tries to ram but his realistic speed has her running circles around him. Swathdiver's platoon of Heng Longs roam the battlefield for 3 hours before needing to recharge their batteries, hours after the Tamiya's went dead. In the end, his $1200 platoon of 5 tanks had one go down to a broken breech, the rest punched holes in $20,000 worth of tanks. The Tamiya boys then started fighting as they roamed the field looking for all the pieces that were shot off of their tanks, accusing their fellow tankers of taking their headlights, machine guns and jerry cans.



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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/29/2006 12:56:24 AM   
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well said!!!
HL tanks are for 4 years old commanders they drive tanks like race car or ram contest.

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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/29/2006 1:10:39 AM   
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To wash or Not to wash

Well as far as competition level IR battles, not spitwaders, I have washed and broken off not washed and broken off when battling you will get damage even if you take a bath with the thing, best bet, JB Weld ya bits on buttonup and hope for the best.


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OK then Templar.
Lets find some common ground for a hypothetical Tamiya vs Henlong Battle.


Ha I wouldn't fire a shot, just run over them with my highly modified Tamiya Tiger 1 that weighs in at 5.6Kg (12.5)lbs

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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/29/2006 1:27:01 AM   
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Come on, you can do better then that!

Themadtanker, My HL Tiger weighs 10lbs.

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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/29/2006 3:54:30 AM   
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That just means ya added 9.5lbs of white metal crap!
Remember I have a junk long as well mate they light plastic crap when first get them the only metal on a stock HL is the gearbox frames and wheel axles :'(]

When you build a Tamiya Tiger it's 9lbs STOCK!

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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/29/2006 4:30:54 AM   
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Well give me credit boys, I knew that would get the thread rolling again.

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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/29/2006 4:56:44 AM   
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You don't have metal gears or tracks on your HLs? I do and with them the tanks weigh about 10lbs including the battery.

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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/29/2006 5:01:45 AM   
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no matter how you decorate your trash bin, it is still trash bin. yes, more trash make it heavier. j/k

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RE: Need advice on A Painting Method - 6/29/2006 5:05:01 AM   
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Okay now lets get really serious for a moment. I've seen the pictures abound. Are you saying that grown men walking around with transmitters and 1/16th tank models dueling around fake 1/16th buildings and such, is a sight to take seriously? Are you also saying these same super cool dudes would laugh at me with my transmitter and 1/16th toy tank? Are you actually thinking I could care less if any guy laughed in a disparaging way? Don't get me wrong - I en