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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/3/2006 7:30 PM

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Chopper here,

Well, the verdict is... Have to order some parts. After looking at the tail boom again, it's bent more than I thought. Plus, it's twisted and the indentations are pretty deep. Oh, and the tail drive shaft is broken too, twisted right in half. So after this post, I'll be Johnny on the spot ordering my new stuff. All, I need is the tail drive set, tail boom and tail drive shaft. Cost, right at $20.00, plus shipping.
I feel very luck, other than an early set of blades, this has been the worst crash I've had. But, all in all, it really isn't that bad.

Thought I'd post a couple pictures, 1 of the helis I have, and the others of the broken tail shaft.
Oh, the picture of my helis is an older one, you have to add a Blade CP Pro to it. Just pretend it's there.

All you guys on this thread are pretty cool, keep 'em flying,

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/3/2006 7:30 PM

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chopperule , aw man that suck but think of it as a higher level with an accident?

gary: wow thats still a broad selection , for a budget of under $200 , which radio will be the best having no glitches/interference?

BTW: i found one bare bone helimax mx400 pro kit for sale with no electronics used but in good condition for $100 shipped. is that a damn good deal or what? just want to ask expert idea on this one

and does anyone which shop carries metal/aluminum upgrade parts that can be used on the falcon as well........just to know if parts can be interchanged on the mx400 , trex etc

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 12:52 AM

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Choppersrule thats a bummer.At least the bearings and gears look ok,you'll have the Falcon back in the air soon and be sure to watch out for those tablesaws,their real killers. Rich

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 1:45 AM

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sigh i guess no more falcon for me........ =(

my friend's boss offered me this deal for $500 all together. do you think i should jump on it? can anyone review the tx , rx , servo , gyro etc to see how good is it?

HeliMax MX400 Pro EP ARF
Futaba 6EXH 6-Channel FM Micro/4 S3107 Servos
Futaba GY240 Gyro 70HZ w/SMM Technology
Futaba Servo Accessory Package S3103
Great Planes LiPo 1250mAh 11.1V 3S 15C Discharge Deans
Great Planes PolyCharge Lithium Polymer DC Charger
Great Planes Gold Plated Bullet Connectors 3.5mm

should i get it? my another friend will be buying my falcon from me...........

need desperate fast information before the deal is gone

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 1:58 AM

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evoIX, how good a pilot are you?

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 2:25 AM

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erm , no 3d stuff , i can hover and do figure 8 on the bcp and thats it.......if i get to set it up correctly that is

any thoughts? pls pls pls before the deal goes away

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 2:29 AM

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im no expert but it seems to meto be pretty nice.

now i definitly could be wrong but i dono.

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 3:00 AM

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like you think its a good deal?

sorry this is not so related to the falcon , because now im contemplating to get the falcon or this =( . newbie with budget suck

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 3:12 AM

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well, that's a lot of heli and a huge leap up from where you are on the BCP.. and then there's parts and support

for me, before I'd spend $500 on any heli I'd need to know a reputable parts dealer for that moddel that would also offer tech support
(and then there's upgrades)

that said, it seems like a sweet deal

decisions...decisions!

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 3:49 AM

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sigh yes poiyt.

well the LHS carrys everything mx400 , not a lot of people fly them cause they go gas heli but there are several.

so do you guys think i should stick with the falcon or the mx400 pro?

i cant be like poiyt to keep two heli. it's jsut way too much money

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 3:53 AM

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wat do you think is better?

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 4:11 AM

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evoIX,

Concerning the MX 400 Pro, if it's still in the box, it's a very good deal? tower hobbies has the same set up for about $650 or so.
If used, I normally stay away from that. Just buying someone elses problems.

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 4:11 AM

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quote:

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sigh yes poiyt.

well the LHS carrys everything mx400 , not a lot of people fly them cause they go gas heli but there are several.

so do you guys think i should stick with the falcon or the mx400 pro?

i cant be like poiyt to keep two heli. it's jsut way too much money

let's see

Falcon 3D $280, MX400 $500..... hmmmmmm

tough call

flip a coin?

and to make your decision tougher: the Falcon 3D SE all-metal is coming!! I'll be REAL interested to see what HL will sell them for!!

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 4:13 AM

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Dave great point.. not sure I'd spend $500 for a used heli either, unless I flew it 1st (but who would let me? you CRAZY!!??)

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 4:19 AM

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Poiyt,

I'm about 99% sure that when the Falcon 3D SE all metal thingie comes out, I'll be the first on my block to get one. Price is the only factor, Hmm, Hmm $450 is my quess.

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 4:42 AM

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the package i mentioned above is brand new still in box unopened by the seller.

but i found another package on helipros for $530 with the specs below

MX400 ARF kit
DX6 Spectrum radio and rcvr
Castle 35Amp ESC,
(3) Hitec HS55 micro servos, (1) Hitec HS50 tail servo,
and Align Heading Hold gyro
Mavrikk micro pitch gauge and for sizing and removing ball links,
the Mavrikk ball link sizing tool and Mavrikk ball link pliers
Align 430LG, YT high capacity 20C 2100mah LiPo battery and YT AC/DC LiPo charger with connectors

OR this TREX kit? for $530 as well

T-Rex 450X Kit

Spectrum DX6 radio/rcvr combo

(3) Hitec HS-55 servos, (1) Hitec HS-50 tail servo
Align Heading Hold gyro
Align 430LG brushless motor,
Align 25 Amp ESC with BEC
20C 2100mah LiPo battery charger with all connectors
Mavrikk Micro pitch gauge,
Mavrikk Ball Link pliers and the
outstanding Mavrikk Ball Link Sizing tool

so many choices sigh........... so among this three people , all NIB unopened. what will u guys get?

i like this thread cause people are more involved in each other;s problem and more iwlling to help out even out of topic.

thanks a lot

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 4:56 AM

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evoIX,

In a word, Trex. However, the Mx is a great bird too. Question to ask yourself, what does the LHS carry as far as parts are concern?

Then you'd be dependent on ordering parts online and waiting.

Like we all know, it's a hard, hard decision to make.

Just take your time, and check out everything you can think of on the web.

Best of luck,

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 4:59 AM

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Hi-

I thought I had my mind made up for my second bird (Blade CP Pro), but this thread on the falcon has my curiosity peaked. Looking at the thread regarding the DPD4 copilot, can that be used with the Falcon for us beginners in the hovering stages?

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 5:19 AM

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Hi-

I thought I had my mind made up for my second bird (Blade CP Pro), but this thread on the falcon has my curiosity peaked. Looking at the thread regarding the DPD4 copilot, can that be used with the Falcon for us beginners in the hovering stages?

Thanks,
Arce

Btmouse,

Yes, the DPD4 is really an excellent upgrade, per say, for beginners. I've had my Falcon for some time now and love it to death.

Here's the link for the DPD4:

http://www.fmadirect.com/Detail.htm?item=1489§ion=20

Here's the link to Hobby Lobby for specs on the Falcon and ordering info.

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/falcon.htm

It's always a hard decision, and how big your wallet is

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Best to ya,

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 5:33 AM

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I'm still in the market for a flight sim like the G3 but....would the copilot be a better investment and skip the sim if I were to get the Falcon?

BTW, that is a sweet looking bird and it's making it hard to make a good decision.

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 6:03 AM

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Btmouse,

More hard decisions. Flight sim or not. Some swear by them and that it really helps them in actual flight, others think that it's a waste of good money.. IE.. I could by a ton of spare parts for what I paid for the sim.

Myself, I've been doing the heli thing for 8 months and never had a sim. I've thought about getting on, but never had.

IMO, the co-pilot is less expensive the almost any sim. Plus, it's an upgrade to the heli. Real helis have all the electrical whiz bang things, why can't we. I've just ordered the co-pilot tonight and so did one of my friends. Can't wait to get it.

Just more food for thought,, Hard isn't it

Keep in mind, this can be a very expensive hobby and addictive to say the least
But most hobbies are costly.

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 6:06 AM

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I had no SIM experience and didn't even bother trying the SIM that comes with the falcon, the falcon is my first chopper but i've flown RC planes before.
I just bought a co-pilot and use the real thing rather than bother with a SIM.
I've got 7 flights on the falcon / co-pilot combo now, no crashes, no training, no sim.
I'm down to 80% gain now on it and on my last flight finally got the courage to flick into idle up and did my first high altitude auto-gyro.
I'm having a ball with this thing, and its a whole lot more fun and less stressful than trying to learn without stabilization.
Basically I just wanted to get out there and fly and have fun so I don't really care if the hard core guys say I'm cheating with a stabilizer.
I'm having tonnes of fun and I'm not crashing so its not costing me an arm and a leg to learn the hard way and therefore I think I'm more likely to be still doing it in 6 months time rather than becoming disillusioned the first time I crash.
I know I'm likely to crash at some point but at least it won't be on my first flight and now that i've been bitten by the bug by having so many successful flights i'll be very eager to get back up in the air if it does come down hard.
The best advise I think I could give you is...

1) go slowly, don't rush it, check, double check and triple check the co-pilot is working properly.
2) if it isn't right, don't fly. go home and repeat step 1.
3) don't let the co-pilot fool you into having a false sense of security, when things go wrong they go wrong quick.
4) go through all the recommended training steps, learn to hover with the co-pilot just as you would without it, don't jump straight into scooting around I had a couple of close calls early on.

I'd like to report that the co-pilot works very well even on the falcon in relatively high winds.
Yesterday I flew in what were quite strong gusty conditions and all that happened was the falcon rose in the breeze, i just pointed it into the wind and lent on the forward stick and it just sat there in mid air.

I'm enjoying the falcon more and more every day and when its used in conjunction with a co-pilot i reckon its a winning newb combo.
You get a very stable platform with tonnes of power and the ability to move on 3d when you are ready.

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 6:21 AM

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well local stock mx400 parts......but among the three of the above which one feels like the best bang for the buck?

the futaba 6EXH or the spektrum DX6?

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 6:25 AM

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Thanks Millst and Choppersrule ! Your posts have helped me with some hard choices especially after finding out how the copilot and falcon combo has worked out.

I have a Helimax Rotofly as my first heli that I've been learning to fly. So far my repair bill list has only been 3 sets of the rotor bearings, a rear tail rotor motor and the most costly component of the lot, one of the servo's that has a sticking gear. It's grounded right now till I get the servo in.

I've gotten confident with hovering and some fwd flight. Looks like the Falcon will be the heli I can use outdoors, especially with the copilot as my crutch for now.

I went ahead and ordered the Falcon and Copilot.

Can you post some picks of your copilot setup on the Falcon for me Millst.
[EDIT] Found your post. Can't wait for my order to get in !

Thanks

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RE: New Mini Electric is here the Falcon 3D!! - 9/4/2006 6:28 AM

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search the forum, i've posted some in an earlier post.

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