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Rod Bender -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/11/2007 3:52:55 PM)

Awesome thread guys,

After learning to fly back in the late 70's I quit flying around 90 something. I just started flying again this past year, and am beginning to learn 3D stuff. I have a Funtana 90 with a YS110. I have a lot to learn, but I'm confident I can learn these things over this upcoming spring. Thanks to all that have contributed input, for someone thats just getting into this, or wanting to progress to something more challanging than buzzing the runway at mach3, its awesome 411...... Greg



Ernie Misner -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/11/2007 5:41:03 PM)

Greg, you are in your 90's and flying 3D???? Awsome!

Ernie



Rod Bender -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/11/2007 6:49:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Ernie Misner

Greg, you are in your 90's and flying 3D???? Awsome!

Ernie


Good one,

Uh, that would be I quit back in the 1990's, I'm only 40 something now, have a couple more somethings left!!!! Back in the 80's-90's we just did "out-law flying". Meaning we flew any damn place we could throw a plane in. Clubs were far and few between. Fast n wild was the norm, actually still is, but I'm trying to form some sort of style to my fast n furious ways and learn some real aerobatic manuevers. I hope I'm flying when I'm 90, I ought to be awesome by then......
[:D]

Greg



diamondave -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/11/2007 11:38:54 PM)

just keep it close, i see the "elders" have trouble when they get too far for their eyesight, or just keep getting bigger planes:)



Rod Bender -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/12/2007 5:19:44 AM)

Ya, I hear ya,

We just lost our oldest member a few months ago. CB was 83yrs young, and flew right up until his passing. Granted, he could only fly about 150yds, then handed the TX over to someone as he could not see the plane anymore. But, that 150yds kept him coming out around once a week, it was a pleasure to meet him. His AMA # was 4 digits !!!!! Greg



diamondave -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/12/2007 5:12:36 PM)

thats awesome, i like to see the older guys still fly, alot in my club just come out for a social gathering and dont fly, just tell fasinating stories, but i cant blame them, its something for them to do, gets them out of the house, we have a few that just build, they dont fly anymore, but they build spectacular, i look forward to some hand me downs in the future:), i will fly as long as i can...i must say i do like to see younger guys come out as well, thats the future of our club, had to throw that out there



Rod Bender -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/13/2007 2:23:24 AM)

Your right Dave,

They are the future of our and every club today. Some of the older members are intimidated by the "young guns" as they cannot fly as well anymore, but most are passive and keep it in check, and keep it what its supposed to be....FUN!!!

We have the same thing at our club, some old, some young, some good, a few excellent, and a lot of guys learning, or have the will to learn. We have some that just build as you said Dave, and there house if full of beautiful planes, but they will never leave the showroom.

Anytime you go the field you never know who's going to be there, but you can always be assured of a great conversation of new stuff, or old stories from the past. Like you said, for some at this age its just getting out of the house once a week to go hang out with the guys. Here is a pic of CB I took this past summer at one of our clubs fun fly's..... Greg

I was conversing with some members of our club earlier this week, and CB was NOT 83, he was 93yrs young. I stand corrected...




rc302 -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/13/2007 4:46:47 AM)

sorry about your friend iam 36 my father in law started me flying back in 1992 ive been flying off and on sense hes 60 and more like my father then father in law but i know what you mean when newbes come to are field and want to learn how to fly allways some butt head that want to kick them out or ask for there card instead of trying to help them get started the people that ask ?? my be the next flying champ so when the younger aragnarnt kid comes along try to help we where all him once you never know you might make a new friend and help a great pilot get started



shakes268 -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/13/2007 6:58:43 PM)

Things are getting a little better with my rolling harriers I think. Amazing that I started practicing them on the sim a year ago before I had ever flown any type of 3D plane for real. Still need some work on regular harriers though.

Shakes' Yak

I still do everything high...I don't want to practice stuff low with a 100cc yet hehe.



Rod Bender -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/13/2007 9:33:34 PM)

Looks good Shakes,

Rolling circles are a mastered favorite. It takes a lot of hand stick control throughout the entire transition. Something that I will be attempting this spring. I didn't get my sim for christmas, somehow santa found out something, and well, it was a new set of boxers for me. He must have informants everywhere!!!!!! [:D]

Greg



rc302 -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/14/2007 5:19:11 PM)

hey i need help please i have a funtanaX mini 480 E-Flite 2100 TP 40 amp esc i cant get it to hover it will go vert for awhile then fall out now on the sim i can hover OK not great but ok now i think its the way i have the plane sit up when Im inverted i dont have to give it any down stick so i think i have the CG right dont know can someone please send me something on how to sit up a 3D plane thanks very much ive flow for a long time but never 3D i have the plane nutral with just a littel pitch of down now on my war birds i give them a littel more nose heavey but i don't crap about 3D flying thanks for any help



patzane -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/14/2007 5:31:09 PM)

rc 302 do you have enough throw in the elev and rudder



rc302 -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/14/2007 11:03:37 PM)

no there at the least amount tell i got use to them should i put them at the max now ive flow the plane about 30 times



diamondave -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/14/2007 11:50:40 PM)

i would and use expo, it really helps out imo, then you can have alot of throw but still control it better with minimul stick movement, it wont get out of hand as quick, also try and set up a dual rate switch if you havent yet, then you can lower them when you want to, take offs and landings, etc..



patzane -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/15/2007 12:09:03 AM)

I agree with dimondave



Futaba Owner -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/17/2007 3:03:44 AM)

Maybe somebody could help me out here. I'm not quite sure how to do a harrier in a lot of wind. I can harrier in little wind but when it kicks up I have a really hard time. The plane tends to want to pich up into a hover. I'm not quite sure how to maintain the harrier. Any help would be great.



diamondave -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/18/2007 12:05:24 AM)

i'm guessing in the wind maybe you need to keep the angle a bit shallower so the wind doesnt get under it as much, maybe? or keep the rpm up and go a bit quicker



diamondave -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/24/2007 1:54:33 AM)

i just figured something out to help with praticing my rolls, both straight lines and rolling circles, mainly the latter cause i can kinda do straight line rolls already, but with the sim, i just moved the aileron trim tab all the way over, even back a bit is good, it elimates trying to correct my roll rate, it rolls nice a slow, but not to slow, anyway, call it cheating if you want, but within 5 minutes of trying, i was progressing way further than i have to date, i wouldnt do it in real life, but to just start out and pratice on the sim, it works, try it, and that little red "reset" button is nice on the sim, but you still can correct with either opposite aileron or go full in the same direction to roll out faster, may be nothing to you guys, but i am pretty proud of myself right now[:)]



paulsen -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/25/2007 1:13:15 AM)

Wich simulator are you guy's using? Sorry if this quetion has already been answered, but I have not been through all 10 pages yet (not exactly a speed reader [:D] ) and I am in the market to upgrade from my RealFlight G2 and I don't plan on getting the G3 because by the time I get it in the mail they will have come out with G10 already, not a very cool marketing technique IMO. [:)]



diamondave -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/25/2007 1:50:45 AM)

i use the g3, and i did the free online upgrade to the 3.5, personally i didnt think the upgrade was worth it, g3 was good to me



paulsen -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/25/2007 5:25:55 AM)

I don't mean to knock Greatplanes Realflight (even though I already did [:@] )I love my G2 and they probably had to change too many thing's on the software platform to make V3 and V3.5 able to upgrade online for G2 user's. My buddy at the LHS let's me fly on his G3.5 and, it is awesome. I was more curious about other brand's like Reflex, Aerofly, or any others that they might have used to demonstrate the 3D manuvers.



MikeEast -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/25/2007 1:22:21 PM)

RealFlight G3 and Ikarus Aerofly Pro Deluxe are both outstanding 3D learning tools. I personally prefer AFPD but you cannot go wrong with either one. Both have nice features for adjusting the physical setup of the plane as well as great physics engines. I think AFPD has a slight edge in the realistic way that the planes stall. The downloadable planes that other users have made up for AFPD are good too some better than others. There are some that fly a little too much like they have helium in them but the Planes from Rodeos Download website and the ones that come stock with AFPD are pretty doggone close.



paulsen -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/26/2007 12:58:09 AM)

Thank's Mike I have heard great thing's about the AFPD from awesome 3D masters including yourself, I have also heard that some AFPD user's that swear by AFPD really like the Pheonix sim and say it maybe it's only rival so far. Have you had a chance to fly the Pheonix sim, If so what do you think about it?

BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG Thank's for posting the awesome detailed 3D how to's they ROCK!!!
Isaac



MikeEast -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/26/2007 5:12:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: paulsen

Thank's Mike I have heard great thing's about the AFPD from awesome 3D masters including yourself, I have also heard that some AFPD user's that swear by AFPD really like the Pheonix sim and say it maybe it's only rival so far. Have you had a chance to fly the Pheonix sim, If so what do you think about it?

BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG Thank's for posting the awesome detailed 3D how to's they ROCK!!!
Isaac


I am far FAR from being a master, but thanks for the compliment
[:)]

I have not even HEARD of Phoenix yet... That tells you how far out of touch I have gotten recently.



paulsen -> RE: HOW-To..3D maneuvers (1/26/2007 9:24:51 AM)

Sound's like a top notch sim from what I hear, may be worth a look. I plan on picking it up, cant go wrong for the price. BTW looked like you have the moves mastered to me!

Thank's again,
Isaac



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