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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/20/2006 8:57:42 PM

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Good point decay. Lots of planes claim to be a combo but almost all can't 3D worth a damn. Give me something that 3Ds like a Mojo and we will talk business. And a video done by a professional is next to meaningless.

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/20/2006 10:26:16 PM

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I've got a 40 sized Funtana with a magnum 91. It's a combo and does both pretty good. My sense is with a profile, a thinner wing won't influence 3D capability to the negative, but will allow it more of an envelope in windy conditions. They key to a good 3D, IMHO, is a 2-piece/removeable wing. If I can't fit it in the truck, it doesn't do much 3D sitting in the plane shed! I have to give some props to the Funtana, however. I hated that mother for the first 50 flights, then moved the CG way back, loaded the light side wing with 3/4 oz of lead to balance out the Magnum and used the computer to set the ailerons to about 1/16 of an inch spoileron. That's both ailerons up slightly. Really helped in hover and harrier--a tip a read on the Horizon website.

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/21/2006 12:22:58 AM

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If a pro can 3D it, than you can too with some practice. Don't be so hard on your self. I have confidence in you.

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/21/2006 1:56:30 AM

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Right, like 4 or 5 years of practice?? With a whole lot of prayin!!

To me this plane is made to look good, which it does. And thats

how they sell it, Its not a flyer. It was made to look cool, not to fly well

or to hold up well. The impulse buyer is the market targeted. They

also ripped off Hangar 9s side force generators, who knows if they

help or hurt on this design, but they look cool on there.

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/21/2006 4:41:56 AM

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Well the plane does hold up well. Like I said, it's designed exactly, to the same manufacturing process of the Katana V2. You can ask any V2 owner (there are quite of few discussions) on how well the new design holds up versus earlier versions of the Katana. The 2 piece wing create a tremendous amount of strength because there is no hole in the middle and there are 2 additional wood beams (on end) that run the entire length of the fuse, thus reducing the chance for the wing to snap behind the wing. Grant it there is no carbon beam or wing tube, but it's also priced $40 less then most CF or wing tubed ARF and includes more hardware and add-ons then any profile ARF ever produced, even $20 worth of servo extensions.

As far as it flies, well I've flown it and so have about 10 other people now. It will 3D all day, slightly more difficult then the Katana V2, but as expected since it IS a combo flier as it tracks real nice.

Also the plane is equipped with winglets, not side force generators. As far as it being "ripped off" from H9, well if we didn't borrow ideas of other manufacturers, we'd all still be flying the Wright Flyer.

Anyhow it is what is it. If your looking for a true 3D flyer, then get a Mojo or whatever else you can find. If your looking for some trade off, tick for tack, give this one a try. If not, try something else. We didn't have to produce this plane, but we did listen to what a lot of people wanted. There were a lot of people asking for a 260 planform and a lot of people asking for a plane with a thinner wing and now it's here. If $140 is too much to risk, to find out if you like it, then give something else a try, there is nothing more then I can tell you that you now know.

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/21/2006 9:45:55 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: decay

Its not a flyer. It was made to look cool, not to fly well

or to hold up well.

Dude, what's your problem? I looked at some of your previous posts to see why you were giving this plane such a hard time and found out that you have a beef with STL. I realize that you do not like STL at all, but that's no excuse for you to come here and rip on this plane. Who do you think you are anyway?

Have you flown this plane? If not, then hit the bricks because this is a Brotherhood over here and we don't stab each other in the back or talk smack about a plane that hasn't even been shipped yet.

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/22/2006 12:00:39 AM

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OK, OK guys lets cool it! The way to tell is when WE fly it. I have one on order and am waiting to receive it. Have a new OS .55AX ready to go. We will be the judge and jury.

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/22/2006 1:38:15 AM

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DLK- what did you pay for that .55 O.S.? is it priced about the same as the old .50sx? If I end up getting this plane, I'll probaly just put my trusty S.T .51 in it, but a fresh motor is always nice. I was going to quit the glow engines, but.......

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/22/2006 2:24:32 AM

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Hey guys, Im just offering my honest opinion on this.

Seems pattern planes are not as short coupled as this one is??

Seems 3D planes have lot thicker wings than this one.

Anybody know if the stab/ele & rudder/fin are built up?

And the ailerons, are they built up? Those kinda things

are hard to tell from pictures. Early reviews are always

kinda optamistic, nobody likes to admit they bought a dud.

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/22/2006 2:45:16 AM

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quote:

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Seems 3D planes have lot thicker wings than this one.

Seems like the tread is going towards thinner wings. I read somewhere about this. They were saying you don't "need" a thick airfoil for good 3D. Granted, I only have two flights on my Wildhare Extra and it is not even close to being dialed in, but I can already tell that with it's thin wings it's not a big time floater like my 85" Ultimate profile. The Ultimate flys so slow in a harrier it's unbelievable. I'm sure the thick wings have something to do with this.

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/22/2006 2:52:04 AM

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As for the plane, it's cute, but it looks pretty weak in the fuse area, the video was less than impressive regarding flight performance from both a pattern and 3D perspective and I don't really understand the billing as !QUOT!The most complete and best flying Profile ARF ever made!QUOT! Who made this determination and was it objective or subjective? Mr. Bigg, I would love to hear your opinion after you have assembled and flown one. My bench is full for the winter and I will be giving other more proven designs my time. There is aways spring though, so I really would like to hear your (and others') thoughts on this one.

J.

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/22/2006 3:37:59 AM

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MrBigg:

OS 55AX - Paid $149.00 from Tower and LHS. Got both the same day. Didn't mean to but they were supposed to be in short supply - not.

BTW I'm building a MOJO 40 kit as we speak. I have not built a wood KIT in 10 years or more. Put together many ARF's. It's fun!
55 AX going on both planes.

I broke in one of the OS.55's last weekend using a APC 12X6. On the test stand it ran perfect. Instant acceleration.

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/22/2006 7:10:32 AM

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Dave: I would be very interested to hear more of your thoughts on the .55 please when you get it going in a plane? We still don't have the .55 in our LHS but the owner said there's a batch on their way. Looks like a very nice motor at a good price!

mrbigg: I on the other hand like the feel of the thinner winged birds? I dunno it's just like their feedback is much more real and direct so I feel more in control of the aircraft in the air? Of course a light wingloading is still a big factor and needed to get a easy to 3D plane but my little 63" fatty Yak-54 has a thin profile and 3D's with the best of them. A little more lively and faster in the harriers sure but the plane feels easier to 3D actually? Don't you find? Hehehe.

Dion: Time to get these things shipped dude! I can sense the public is hungry for some new blood!

Cheers
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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/23/2006 12:17:40 AM

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I don't know Spacey. I need more time on the Extra for sure. I have a new Mejzlik 23x8 carbon prop coming for it. Hoping it will be here Friday but it's not looking good.

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/23/2006 11:28:10 AM

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great thread guys....

and thats even before the plane started to ship...

I think its better not to say even a word till you get to see, test, and fly this bird,
photos are allways nice...
just stop the crap on thinner wing doesn't 3D well, and go on...

Looks nice, spec's ok, very impressive completed ARF, give it a try, and if you not going to,
so just sit still till other will say what they have to say...

Its sure different design than any other profile out there, mich more impressive and pattern one,
thats why they say IMAC on it....
obviously plane like the V2 katana will 3D easier but thats why it was designed different.

are more profesional vids coming ??

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RE: TMPro USA Extra 260 Cool!! - 11/24/2006 9:32:07 PM

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quote:

Seems 3D planes have lot thicker wings than this one.

Take a close look at the plane in the gallery, for one thing the wings are not much thinner then the Katana V2, only slightly thinner.

quote:

/Anybody know if the stab/ele & rudder/fin are built up?

And the ailerons, are they built up? Those kinda things

Yes, they are built up. Don't mind me asking, but what else do you think they would be???

If you want to find out the contstruction in this plane, go look at any Katana V2 thread, it's built identical.

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