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Drawing with Photoshop - 7/8/2006 3:15:19 AM

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Well ive been doing a lot of tweaking with photoshop trying to make hi-speed graphics that ive seen floating around RCU, mostly from Minnflyer. So I thought id take a stab at it. Recently ive run into a lot of posts about aftermarket TX batterys and few people asking how one could be made. So i fired up photoshop and tryed to make a TX battery in the "bones". What you guys think? Is there anything i could do to make it a little more realisitc?

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RE: Drawing with Photoshop - 7/10/2006 3:40:14 PM

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Very good grasshopper, very good indeed.

I would suggest a little more shading to distinguish the front from the back. I also changed the shape of the rear side.

For drawing curves like wires, you can draw a path, and then stroke the path with the brush tool, then I added a bevel filter to the wires.

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RE: Drawing with Photoshop - 7/10/2006 4:18:55 PM

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you guys suck! I can't even draw a smiley face in photoshop!!

Give me autocad or visio and I can make wonderful engineering diagrams, but I just get confused in photoshop.

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RE: Drawing with Photoshop - 7/11/2006 2:26:28 PM

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you guys suck! I can't even draw a smiley face in photoshop!!

Give me autocad or visio and I can make wonderful engineering diagrams, but I just get confused in photoshop.

What do you think you'd like to do in PS?

It's pretty much like anything MinnFlyer & I both know our way around, comfortably in PhotoShop. I dare say, that I'd be cut real short in AutoCad. We're both on a MAC and as well, a PC. I think I speak for MinnFlyer when I say he'd rather be on a MAC all of the time but nevertheless, about the only CAD application I have for the MAC is something called CADINTOSH. The PDF manual for this app. is hundreds of pages long. I've had it for almost a year now. I STILL get lost!

Like anything, most anyone is COMFORTABLE doing what they can do best. I have difficulty with my CAD app. so I tend to shy away from it.

Nine out of ten times, if I can draw it up in PS, I'll go that route!

Pick a subject that you want to do in PS, I'd be delighted to share with you, how to do it. One thing about PS, there is ALWAYS, many ways to do the same thing.

Take a simple drop shadow, there are installed plug-ins that do it automatically for you, but what if YOU don't like those results? Both myself & MinnFlyer can show you a way to do it so that you have 100% control over the shadow.

Some years ago I watched an old man upholstering the back of a chair with diamond tufting & buttons. I made a comment to him something like this: "Wow!, that must really be hard to do" -- his very wise comback was so profound that I have always remembered it! "NOTHING is hard to do - IF, you know how to do it!"

I hope my point is taken. Good luck

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RE: Drawing with Photoshop - 7/11/2006 3:29:28 PM

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quote:

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quote:

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you guys suck! I can't even draw a smiley face in photoshop!!

Give me autocad or visio and I can make wonderful engineering diagrams, but I just get confused in photoshop.

What do you think you'd like to do in PS?

It's pretty much like anything MinnFlyer & I both know our way around, comfortably in PhotoShop. I dare say, that I'd be cut real short in AutoCad. We're both on a MAC and as well, a PC. I think I speak for MinnFlyer when I say he'd rather be on a MAC all of the time but nevertheless, about the only CAD application I have for the MAC is something called CADINTOSH. The PDF manual for this app. is hundreds of pages long. I've had it for almost a year now. I STILL get lost!

Like anything, most anyone is COMFORTABLE doing what they can do best. I have difficulty with my CAD app. so I tend to shy away from it.

Nine out of ten times, if I can draw it up in PS, I'll go that route!

Pick a subject that you want to do in PS, I'd be delighted to share with you, how to do it. One thing about PS, there is ALWAYS, many ways to do the same thing.

Take a simple drop shadow, there are installed plug-ins that do it automatically for you, but what if YOU don't like those results? Both myself & MinnFlyer can show you a way to do it so that you have 100% control over the shadow.

Some years ago I watched an old man upholstering the back of a chair with diamond tufting & buttons. I made a comment to him something like this: "Wow!, that must really be hard to do" -- his very wise comback was so profound that I have always remembered it! "NOTHING is hard to do - IF, you know how to do it!"

I hope my point is taken. Good luck

marwen1

I know exactly what your saying, it's like anything the more you do it the better you are.
Most of the stuff I try to do is create cross section views of planes and put designs on them so I can experiment with new covering schemes. I purposely try to use PS but after spending an hour trying to draw an outline I just open up Visio and crank out the same thing (minus color) extremely fast and then export the image into a jpg & fill the colors with paintbrush. It's pretty sad, i know.

I really need to just take the time and find a decent photoshop for dummies book and learn how to use it, because there's no question it's a great drawing tool.

BTW, I hope my comment above wasn't taken negatively. You guys suck, translates into "I'm jealous that I can't do that"
The drawings look great!!

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RE: Drawing with Photoshop - 7/12/2006 3:16:10 AM

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Well, you have the biggest DUMMY right here! LOL Ask whatever you'd like & I'll do my best to help you get there as fast as possible.

1st off though, to make a "QUICK" drawing --- open ANY file> filter> sketch> stamp. Hit OK

You may want to play around with the adjustmets a little.

If the overall startup image is to dark> adjust the density within the histogram (control L) -=move the centre tiangle to the left till your image is lighter> apply --- then use the filter

you will be amazed at your results.

pick ANY area you want and FILL it with the paint bucket - that's one way to colour it

more later

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RE: Drawing with Photoshop - 7/12/2006 3:16:16 AM

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Wow i feel blessed. Ive been messing around with PS for the last few weeks now discovering features that i never knew existed. Minn I really like how you did your wires on the battery. I did however did apply the brush to the path tool but did not make them curved. That plus i just couldn't get the wires evenly next to each other. That will just take a little more work...

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RE: Drawing with Photoshop - 7/12/2006 6:10:18 AM

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1) Try to work inLAYERS!

2) Accomplish the minor "wiring" in one layer until you are satified with it.

3) DRAG your LAYER to the DUPLICATE inkon and use your up/down;left/right arrows to position the 2nd wire where your want it.

If it seems like it is locked, make sure that you are in the MOVE TOOL and ONLY use those same up/down;left/right arrows

If you have a problem --- YELL! I'm only a few clicks away

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RE: Drawing with Photoshop - 8/2/2006 1:38:55 PM

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Tuwood, I actually got started doing computer graphics when I used CAD systems for the G'vment. Back then they had one of the first B&W digital cameras for taking photos of aircraft cracks to send to the engineers so they could figure out a fix for them.

Well, the geniuses I worked with couldn't figure out how to get the pictures out of the camera, so they came to the only guy in the squadron who knew how to work a computer - me.

So I did the tutorial for their (VERY BASIC) digital image manipulation software, and after a while I was retouching all of their pictures (Making them lighter/ darker or highlighting the damage, etc)

The first time I got my hands on PhotoShop, I went Ga Ga!

Been using it since '94

However, there are times when I would KILL to have some of the drawing features of my old CAD system!!!!

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RE: Drawing with Photoshop - 8/2/2006 2:34:17 PM

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quote:

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Tuwood, I actually got started doing computer graphics when I used CAD systems for the G'vment. Back then they had one of the first B&W digital cameras for taking photos of aircraft cracks to send to the engineers so they could figure out a fix for them.

Well, the geniuses I worked with couldn't figure out how to get the pictures out of the camera, so they came to the only guy in the squadron who knew how to work a computer - me.

So I did the tutorial for their (VERY BASIC) digital image manipulation software, and after a while I was retouching all of their pictures (Making them lighter/ darker or highlighting the damage, etc)

The first time I got my hands on PhotoShop, I went Ga Ga!

Been using it since '94

However, there are times when I would KILL to have some of the drawing features of my old CAD system!!!!

I had a similar start in networking. I was in the Navy & the ship I was on needed a network so they went to a couple of the computer geeks and asked us to do it.

I've used Visio for years & also played with AutoCAD quite a bit.
I was finishing a build when this thread started & I told myself I was going to force myself to do the cross section & scheme layout in photoshop. (just to learn)
Well, after 60 minutes of trying to figure out how to draw an outline of the wing I gave up & did the whole layout in visio with colors in about 15 minutes. I'm hopeless. lol
I think Visio/CAD is much better for creating precision layouts with measurements & angles, but your pretty much limited to solid colors & basic fading for colors.

Here's my top view scheme from visio & the end result (slightly modified)

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RE: Drawing with Photoshop - 8/2/2006 2:49:55 PM

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Hmmm, you've given me an idea.

Last winter I did those covering videos for RCU Magazine. They've been getting so many hits that Marc wants me to do something similar.

Maybe I'll do a basic video "How To" for using Photoshop to create designs.

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RE: Drawing with Photoshop - 8/2/2006 2:59:13 PM

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I think that's a GREAT idea!!!

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RE: Drawing with Photoshop - 8/3/2006 3:35:55 AM

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Hey Mike:

I don't want to be left out in the cold either LOL

1960 I joined the USAF, went thru basic training in San Antonio. Day #2 -- "lay out EVERYTHING" you have on your bunk" --- I had a B/W 5" x 7" image of a chick that I was dating back home (headshot) and in the upper Right corner I had a vignetted (small) portrait of myself. You know how vanity is when you're that age, LOL -- the JOIC came by , looked at it and point blank asked me if I made it. Back then, it all darkroom stuff!

"Let me tell you this airman, if you get your orders and they are anything other than to work in the photography field, you come and see me!" You know what, 8 weeks later, I had order cut for me to be a MEDIC and I was scheduled to be sent to TURKEY.. "LT" "LT" --- I sat in his office for no more than 20 minutes. My orders were changed IMMEDIATELY to go to LOWRY AFB in Denver.

A 26 week course. whew! what a bloody relief to know that I wasn't going to --- YIKES!!!!! TURKEY.

I've stayed with this industry pretty much all of my life. In fact, a few years ago, I answered an ad for contract work with JOSTENS. I've been with them ever since. Last year they went digital for their group shots. 26 photographers all trying to get onto 2 PC computers at the end of the day. Only about 2 -3 of us had ANY graphic experience.. Oh Yea! lots of fun. LOL

So this year, the word has been throughout the year that "our" office is going 100% digital.

Now for a twist>>>> LIFETOUCH bought out JOSTENS for 1.25 BILLION about 2 months ago.

From what I hear, everything is supposed to stay just like it has been..

We'll see.

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RE: Drawing with Photoshop - 10/7/2006 2:29:05 AM

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Drawing in Photoshop can be lots of fun but I think it is good to loosen up. It certainly helps to have a Wacom tablet so you can draw more naturally. I use a Wacom Cintique which is fabulous because you can draw/paint right on the screen. The images here are actually sketches started with pencil on paper, scanned in and finished in Photoshop.
The key is LAYERS. Drawing freehand, you may screw things up so make duplicate layers so it is easy to be bold. These files probably had 5-20 layers. I've seen some with 50 or more.
I also use erasers a lot, blowing in an "airbrush" tone, then cutting it down around the edges with eraser/s.

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